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unitedbiscuits
13 Nov 17 17:05
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Voting Leave last June caused the greatest single loss in the value of one currency since they were unbound:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-markets-sterling/sterlings-post-brexit-fall-is-biggest-loss-in-a-hard-currency-idUSKCN0ZN1R0

Catastrophic, but it got worse, because the pound has fallen since, especially against the Euro.

Reader, you may think currency fluctuations do not affect you, you are so wrong.It is different for the rich but, for most readers, your wealth is tied to the value od the pound. When you login to Betfair, your sterling balance is now worth 12/15% less than the player you betting against - if his bank is in $ or EUR.  You are equally the poor relation of Europeans in real life.
The good news is that you can reverse your self-inflicted injury, by working towards the Second Referendum in February 2019. Britain staying in the EU would result in the greatest one day rise of any major currency in one day. £20k is a conservative estimate of the benefit to your household.
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Report alun2005 November 13, 2017 5:15 PM GMT
Readers are respectfully reminded that betting investments can go down as well as up.

There was, for example, a 'Remain' voter on this Forum who informed us he had put his 'full bank' (at long odds-on) for 'Remain' to win the 2016 EU Referendum.

It would be callous of me to identify him here. I have no wish to add to his already grievous public humiliation.
Report Petraco November 13, 2017 5:15 PM GMT
Do you have any recommendations regarding the future market of snake oil?  Plain
Report trilby22 November 13, 2017 5:51 PM GMT
Nurse!
Report Injera November 13, 2017 5:55 PM GMT
Question to the OP: if one works in UK tourism or Exports, is one better or worse off?
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 6:01 PM GMT
I refer all to my thread "Get all your money out of the UK"; (helpfully bumped on the Politics forum).

There is another killing to be made, vote Remain next time. Why are Brexiteers afraid of the second vote once the picture clarifies? Because they will lose.
Report Injera November 13, 2017 6:12 PM GMT
Best of 3, 5 or 7 Biscuits?
Report alun2005 November 13, 2017 6:21 PM GMT
Can I also remind readers that they should always beware the advice and motivations of those claiming they have spotted a lucrative betting opportunity.

We have, for example, a 'Remain' voter on this Forum who loftily informed us that any potential negative financial implications of Brexit wouldn't actually matter to him and his family. He savoured the opportunity to advise us that he and his family "will always be all right". 

The very same individual also started a thread just after the 2016 Brexit vote stating he hoped that Brexit would 'prompt a deep recession in England".
 
Again, I have no wish to name and shame the individual concerned. Alas, he needs no help from me in arranging his own humiliation.
Report trilby22 November 13, 2017 6:27 PM GMT
I can't imagine who this mystery "Remain" voter could possibly be Alun but hasn't he created circa 150 anti-Brexit since that glorious day last June?
Report trilby22 November 13, 2017 6:27 PM GMT
^ posts
Report trilby22 November 13, 2017 6:29 PM GMT
^ 2nd last June, ffs :(
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 7:04 PM GMT
To put trilby22 out of his stuttering misery, I'll happily step up. I don't suppose I'll receive due thanks, my address is not to these ingrates but to the uncommitted voter who wants the best for his country. Vote your family £20,000 (minimum) richer and let the agitators consume their own bile.
Report akabula November 13, 2017 7:10 PM GMT
UB still taking this very badly.
They say time is a great healer but not in the crumbles world it would seem.
Report saddo November 13, 2017 7:11 PM GMT
Only 20k? A snip to get rid of em.
Report trilby22 November 13, 2017 7:33 PM GMT
"To put trilby22 out of his stuttering misery" ... cheers UB.  You're a decent enough bloke.  Just need to wake up and smell the coffee Bruv.

We is leavin' da buildin'!
Report Burt06 November 13, 2017 7:54 PM GMT
The £20k is of course yet another remainiac lie. But let's for a second assume it is true. The following link shows remainiac in chief Nick Clegg claiming there will not be a European army.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrzUnjCcUGs

The following link is from today - announcing a European army.

https://qz.com/1127984/eu-army-bloc-forging-ahead-with-its-military-integration-to-shake-off-us-dependence/

Given they have already started a war in Ukraine without an army and then threw said country under the bus when Putin got involved I would say £20k would be an extremely cheap price for getting out of what is to come. But as I have said, the figure is a lie anyway.

On another matter if the the people of Catalonia want freedom and independence they had better get a move on. Once this army is in full swing any descent from a member state will result in this new army becoming involved and they will make sure they send units not from the region in question.

The ever increasing similarities of the EU to the USSR are truly frightening.

Has anyone ever looked at their House of European History in Brussels? The revision of history and glaring omissions tell you all you need to know about their views. A disgraceful exercise in propaganda paid for by the UK tax payers.

Enough! WE ARE LEAVING THIS STINKING, CORRUPT BUILDING.
Report Burt06 November 13, 2017 7:58 PM GMT
There was, for example, a 'Remain' voter on this Forum who informed us he had put his 'full bank' (at long odds-on) for 'Remain' to win the 2016 EU Referendum.


Oh I remember that night so well.Grin
For how many months did he go on that I had lost my wonga by backing Brexit? It felt like forever and a day.Laugh
And then cometh the hour cometh the 17.4 mighty and noble Brexiteers to free the country and land my bets whilst simultaneously breaking that plonkers bank.Grin
Report Burt06 November 13, 2017 7:59 PM GMT
And now Biscuitbrain is giving us more betting advice.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughGrin

Just get him his medication.
Report Gin November 13, 2017 8:23 PM GMT
https://youtu.be/cDcR_6x7GgI?t=13m30s

Nick Clegg - Oxford Unions Debate on the EU Referendum - November 2015

"We also know that even if we decide overwhelmingly to stay in, there will be some voices and I hope it isn’t Nigel (Farage) or Sir William because I think this is a fate that shouldn’t befall them as they are decent, decent characters. But there will be some people who like those Japanese soldiers who continue fighting the last war because no-one had told them it had ended (in some Pacific island), who will carry on arguing and arguing and arguing………………………………

The rest of us will just move on and carry on with the rest of our lives"
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 8:37 PM GMT
Burt, stop wandering around dead museums in Brussells and consider what harm the EU has ever done to you? Certainly, I have been happy and free living my whole life under the EU, but anyone with a real grievance can post below. My feeling is that most people against the EU haven't really felt it impinge on their personal life, they're just parroting what the right-wing media have told them to be indignant about. Which is a bit sad.

Gin - I wasn't going to mention it but, how's it feel being the wrong side of Nasdaq for the last five months? Will you ever get that time back, I wonder.
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 8:41 PM GMT
For non-zealots on here, the best thing you can ever do is to vote Remain at the second referendum. And if you voted Leave first time, drop to your knees for the chance to atone to the younger generation.
Report Injera November 13, 2017 8:54 PM GMT
But what about a 3rd referendum? Surely 1-1 would be very disagreeable.
Report Gin November 13, 2017 8:55 PM GMT
unitedbiscuits 13 Nov 17 20:37 Joined: 27 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 7,679 | Blogger: unitedbiscuits's blog


Gin - I wasn't going to mention it but, how's it feel being the wrong side of Nasdaq for the last five months? Will you ever get that time back, I wonder.



ConfusedI think you have mixed me up with somebody else?
Report RacingCert November 13, 2017 8:59 PM GMT
A vote against bureaucracy can never be wrong.
It’s the wisdom of crowds.
Report casemoney November 13, 2017 9:11 PM GMT
When Civil war Kicks off in Spain OP may want to with draw this offer .
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 9:18 PM GMT
Casemoney - If the flare-up in Catalonia proves anything, it is that they would rather be Spanish than Brexit. Nobody in Europe wants to identify with Brexiteers.

Gin - Sorry, some old thread on T&F re Apple and Menelaus I thought was yours..
Report RacingCert November 13, 2017 9:25 PM GMT
Nobody in Europe wants to identify with brexiteers .... Germans guilt, the others a good number.
We just want to go our own way.
Report Just Checking November 13, 2017 9:33 PM GMT
Actually unless you keep your money in cash in the bank most people will have savings in ISAs or pensions funds, both generally tied to the FTSE which has been hitting record highs. Which is good for savers and good for pensions funds. Also the lower pound (which many considered overvalued) has helped exports and tourism.

HTH, sorry if some facts pees over your remoaner pity party.
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 9:40 PM GMT
It's a lot simpler than than that, Just Checking. It's like this: when you match a bet on this site, the value of your stake is 13% less than that of another playing in EUR or USD. In other words, you are now taking 5/6 on the toss of a coin. You are now their poor relation, Just Checking, in real life as on the exchange.
Report Just Checking November 13, 2017 9:47 PM GMT
It's not a lot simpler than that, it's quite obvious going into detail to explain things to you would be wasted effort.
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 9:56 PM GMT
The facts I mentioned at 21:40 are the undisputed at 21:55, Just Checking
Report unitedbiscuits November 13, 2017 9:57 PM GMT
You're the perfect victim, you still can't accept you've been fleeced.
Report moisok November 13, 2017 10:19 PM GMT
That will be nothing till when they have their european army to back up any closing down of opposition. Likewise the arrest warrant for opposition activists.   And do not try to tell me this is not going to happen.  Part of it has already.
Report RacingCert November 14, 2017 8:13 AM GMT
Remoaners tend to be part of the pc, liberal elite or like to think they are.
Report Gin November 14, 2017 11:28 AM GMT
unitedbiscuits 13 Nov 17 21:18 Joined: 27 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 7,695 | Blogger: unitedbiscuits's blog

Gin - Sorry, some old thread on T&F re Apple and Menelaus I thought was yours..



Ah, I remember now – just had a look at the thread you mentioned.

That was just an opinion and not one backed up by cash (ie shorting). I try my best to look out for cheaper assets (not easy in this environment) and have been invested elsewhere.

It was a good call by you though – the Nasdaq is up 16% in those 8 months (although due to the rise in the pound vs USD since then, you can knock a few percent off). That compares well to 10% for the S&P.
Report unitedbiscuits November 14, 2017 11:47 AM GMT
Thank you, Gin.
Nobody gets everything right.
Report Platini November 14, 2017 11:57 AM GMT
you won't like this UB, but the pound is recovering nicely against the USD

Look at the last 12 months data

https://ibb.co/gWiPHb

Cool
Report unitedbiscuits November 14, 2017 12:25 PM GMT
Au contraire, Platini, a strong currency makes all of us richer. While we need to be patient, I'm very optimistic that friendly forces within the country can come together and reverse Brexit. And the people will be rewarded with the biggest one-day rise of any major free-floating currency ever. Talk about a feel-good factor!
Report moisok November 14, 2017 1:17 PM GMT
You have no idea what they are planning for the european superstate. Thank goodness we won't be controlled by them.
Report Platini November 14, 2017 1:47 PM GMT
the Euro is a dead currency walking


meanwhile the pound will bounce back big time
Report unitedbiscuits November 14, 2017 2:03 PM GMT
Possibly, Platini. I'm afraid facts aren't your friends though.
Report Burt06 November 14, 2017 2:18 PM GMT
I'm afraid facts aren't your friends though.

That's good coz he talks even more shiite than you.
Report unitedbiscuits November 14, 2017 2:30 PM GMT
I did check the exchange rate after I read that the EUR is a dead currency walking, to see how the markets are reacting to Platini's statement..
Report Platini November 14, 2017 2:32 PM GMT
The euro will be dead in less than a decade.
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