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At least 27 people have been killed inside a Texas church - including a two-year-old child - after a gunman dressed in full combat gear opened fire during the morning service before cops shot him dead.
The shooting happened at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, where around 50 people usually attend service, according to local reports. Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr told CNN that at least 27 people have been killed in the shooting, but the death toll is expected to climb. 'My heart is broken,' Gamez said. 'We never think where it can happen, and it does happen. It doesn't matter where you're at. In a small community, real quiet and everything, and look at this, what can happen Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5052163/Up-27-shot-Texas-church-gunman-opens-fire.html#ixzz4xakE7dFG |
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Firing indiscriminately into a crowd of men, women and children.
What sort of sick mind must he have had. So feckin sad. |
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O MY GOD,thats terrible,must put on sky .truly shocking news.The world has gone mad.
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Absolutely sickening, all those innocents slaughtered by a psychopath. Totally heartbreaking.
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Unfortunately Americans by and large are mad and live in their own little bubble - I love NFL and watch it avidly and was just thinking earlier on about the events we celebrate on this night some 400+ years on and then you see the clobber that some of crowd in these nfl games wear and you begin to realise that they aint wired up right.
Sadly becos of the politics of the country and the clearly outdated amendment rights they hold so dear these gun crimes will continue unabated till long after i'm gone and probably not for another 200 years God Bless America  |
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Americans by and large are mad
No they are not, they are no different to any other population you could choose. |
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Dreadful . All these guns shame a couple of the Church goers were not armed
Any news on the Shooter ?? Please do not let it be Isis related because things could get Very serious over there .. |
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just my opinion Foinavon - having met a few on my travels but each to their own- don't know the numbers off hand but more serial killers in USA than say Russia - why is that I wonder ?
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"Unfortunately Americans by and large are mad and live in their own little bubble - I love NFL and watch it avidly and was just thinking earlier on about the events we celebrate on this night some 400+ years on and then you see the clobber that some of crowd in these nfl games wear and you begin to realise that they aint wired up right.
Sadly becos of the politics of the country and the clearly outdated amendment rights they hold so dear these gun crimes will continue unabated till long after i'm gone and probably not for another 200 years God Bless America SadSad" Not sure why people get so upset by USA's gun laws. It has a massively different cultural history to the UK regarding guns and it's thousands of miles away. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33190735
Looks at first sight like a racially motivated mass murder. |
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Different shooting a couple of years back
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American affairs get disproportionate air time, Smirnoff. I've no idea how many shootings there are in Russia.
I've also met many Americans during my life and all were perfectly normal people. |
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That's taking me to the Charleston shooting Foinavon.
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yes Shrewd look what they did to the NATIVE AMERICANS back in the day - shameful stuff - and that's why they invented cowboys and Indians ffs
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Geordies are loud but Americans ....are even LOUDER nap
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OK, sorry, I thought it was current.
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Apoligies too - we are getting off track - what matters is that another nutter has overdosed on peanut butter sandwiches and gone to a church of all places - much more sacred to the USA than us by the way - and caused mayhem with a gun that imo he shudnt hav on him
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No probs Foinavon. Shame about the Titanic btw.
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Yes, I only heard about that the other day, Aka.
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Have they suggested any motivation for this attack?
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Not yet, a press conference is being organised according to France 24 which is the only channel with continuous coverage I can find.
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They have switched to Spain now with a promise to cover the press conference when it starts.
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No mention of anything being Shouted and Masked attacker ,sounds more likely to be a Local lunatic .
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Suspected gunman named by US media
ABC News, citing law enforcement sources, have named the suspected gunman as 26-year-old white male Devin Kelley from New Braunfels, Texas. Police have reportedly searched his home for explosives. 26 dead ........25 in hopital |
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Hospital*
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26 people dead and amazingly this thread attracts smiley faces.
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6 year old boy shot 4 times now in surgery , the Pastors 14 year old daughter one of those killed
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Great bravery by the man who grabbed the rifle as he exited the church. Sickening event.
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Just got home and saw the news. Sickening.
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Meanwhile, politicians repeating the thoughts and prayers mantra (irony alert!) while continuing to pocket the NRA's blood money.
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What is it that is playing a very large part in the increasing levels of madness and violence in today's society ?
It is possible that it is the violence in films and computer games and the internet that is causing very great damage to people now , These things , computer games and in particular the internet are becoming a very great force for evil. |
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i very much agree lfc
another awful event, more innocent lives gone. |
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If no-one had a gun, no-one could get shot.
It really is that simple. It seems also, that praying doesn't really seem to do much good. |
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I have thought about this before LFC I also think the lack of respect and the breakdown of the family unit is another factor.
I believe children need a father and mother and especially boys need a father, someone they look up to and who will teach them good morals and how to do things that will stand to them as they grow up. .I was always with my dad without realising it I learnt so much from him,just by being with him. |
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I agree it's impossible to see how America can allow people to have guns in today's society and given the nature of today's society.
The guns were meant to protect people from the government , but in the free and democratic western societies it is not the government that people have to fear , it is other people. |
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38 mass shootings in USA in October alone. Terrorism in New York Trump goes ballistic about increasing screening, Guantanamo etc. but when an American guns down women and children with a semi automatic in a Church ffs. Nothing about the gun threat from his own voters. Not fake news.
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people don't feel safe, that's why they have guns. It's understandable.
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Sorry if this sounds far fetched but, on Saturday, I was going to post "I feel another disaster about to happen"!
Truly shocking and dreadful news and, have to think that every time there is such an atrocity, there will be many others who, in their warped minds, are spurred on to plan the same! |
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I think we have underestimated how difficult it is to build a safe and free and peaceful society.
The decades after WW2 in Western Europe and some other countries such as Japan and Australia will be seen as a golden age. But they have made us careless and wreck less , not knowing how fragile these things are . Look at history and other countries look around. |