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Torquemada
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To me she came across as extremely racist and sexist herself.

Neil and Portillo showed up her many offensive claims to be entirely baseless, while the joker Ed Balls just stared deeply into her eyes and nodded sympathetically.
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Report portmanpark • October 13, 2017 9:18 PM BST
she talked a load of tosh
Report Torquemada • October 13, 2017 9:23 PM BST
Glad somebody else saw it. She came across as a truly horrible person.
Report GoOnThen • October 13, 2017 9:26 PM BST
A complete oddball.
Report Just Checking • October 13, 2017 9:27 PM BST
I watched that. She had her opinion and issues, and no amount of facts would dissuade her, so she just kept digging a deeper hole for herself.

Who could have thought that a black transexual might have felt alienated at school?

The fact she has had negative experiences does not mean we are all unfixable racists.
Report lfc1971 • October 13, 2017 9:28 PM BST
It could be worse, she could be living in a different country.
Report portmanpark • October 13, 2017 9:29 PM BST
didn't come across that well...........when they told her white people were least likely to go to uni she didn't know what to say.............
Report treetop • October 13, 2017 10:16 PM BST
So why does a person with such poisonous opinions receive air time ? Because it is challenging ?
Report Torquemada • October 13, 2017 10:20 PM BST
It was hard to watch at times, the gulf in intellect between her and Neil/Portillo made for cringeworthy viewing.
Report portmanpark • October 13, 2017 10:23 PM BST
she basically thought every white person was racist but she was proud of being british
Report portmanpark • October 13, 2017 10:23 PM BST
she basically thought every white person was racist but she was proud of being british
Report akabula • October 13, 2017 10:59 PM BST
Who could have thought that a black transexual might have felt alienated at school?

Her whole argument when pressed seems to be based on her own personal experience which as you suggest is quite unique.
She was happy to bring up the violence that happened in building the Empire but wouldn't accept the violence in black peoples history was relevant.
Report akabula • October 13, 2017 11:05 PM BST
Suggesting the UK is inherently racist is just silly given the way that immigrants were not just accepted but welcomed into our country in the 50s, 60s, and 70s and even the 80s. What has happened since is a certain group having caused resentment by their refusal to accept the British culture whilst trying to force theirs on us.
Report Just Checking • October 13, 2017 11:22 PM BST
Andrew Neil could have mentioned this. Other papers covered it but I'll put the link to the "right wing" independent.
It's absolutely horrific, even in the middle ages I don't think Europeans did anything this evil:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/congo-woman-raped-luego-video-kamuina-nsapu-beheaded-serving-fish-a7993026.html

That's black people doing that to black people, and that sort of thing is not uncommon, look at all the mad religious groups over that way.
Report Torquemada • October 13, 2017 11:24 PM BST
He did mention the Congo, JC.
Report saddo • October 13, 2017 11:39 PM BST
Dreadful woman I thought, but funny to see Balls capitulate instantly.
Report Capt__F • October 14, 2017 12:07 AM BST
keep dancing
Report GoOnThen • October 14, 2017 6:22 AM BST
She's got some balls, or at least she had.
Report ufcdan • October 14, 2017 8:55 AM BST
The ironic thing is this person is probably a model as this person has light skin ! For this person to say white people were the most violent and dangerous species on the planet was in itself racist ! (I have referred to this individual as "this person" so as not to upset any of the more sensitive souls on here) Mischief
Report Foinavon • October 14, 2017 10:14 AM BST
It was most depressing seeing this person parroting hate speech which has no relevance to the present in this country. It is alarming to think that these beliefs are likely to be prevalent among the younger generations and are probably being taught to the young by those who should know better and some with malicious intent.
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 10:27 AM BST
akabula
13 Oct 17 23:05

Suggesting the UK is inherently racist is just silly given the way that immigrants were not just accepted but welcomed into our country in the 50s, 60s, and 70s and even the 80s. What has happened since is a certain group having caused resentment by their refusal to accept the British culture whilst trying to force theirs on us.


No Blacks, No dogs, No Irish!

As a matter of interest how old are you Akabula?
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 10:49 AM BST
I had a Chinese Canadian lady here yesterday, a writer. She has lived in London for a good part of the last decade, and now resides in Paris. She cannot believe how much the race card is used in this country and in her experience there is little racism here compared to many countries, including France. There are food establishments near her home which will only serve her take out food and drink, her Black American flatmate has actually been refused service altogether. I doubt this could happen here any more.
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 11:03 AM BST
Saddo,

If this person is a writer why doesn't she name and shame these restaurants?

Ask her what they are called please!
Report lfc1971 • October 14, 2017 11:09 AM BST
have we any examples of racism in Britain?
Report donny osmond • October 14, 2017 11:15 AM BST
little racism compared to other countries is maybe correct but still not good

we dont want to be a bit less fascist than germany nor a bit less totalitarian than venezuela




no idea what the woman was doing on tv nevermind a semi serious politics program
she seemed to be given a spot to rant , maybe bbc is looking for tweets ....
Report ufcdan • October 14, 2017 11:15 AM BST
have we any examples of racism in Britain?


Dianne Abbott Mischief
Report 1st time poster • October 14, 2017 11:28 AM BST
someone on tv said diane abbott suffered over half of the abuse sent to mp,s at the election because she,s a black women,absolute garbage abbott has a list as long as your arm before her colour or genda become an issue to some people

1,pathetic at her job
2,promoted beyond belief
3,hypocrit ,private school etc
4,racist towards white people
5,thick as wood
6,liar
7.etc,etc
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 11:30 AM BST
Indeed, it is natural that horrible people attract more abuse than less horrible ones.
Report 1st time poster • October 14, 2017 11:33 AM BST
this new world is all foreign to me,but is it actually possible to be sexist to a trans genda person,you,d have to abuse men and women at the same time wouldn't you
Report 1st time poster • October 14, 2017 11:36 AM BST
on the plus side I bet the women,man,tranny,coloured,black person on this week or whichever way she likes to be addressed doesn't have to turn down to many party invites at xmas,imagine getting stuck in a corner with that
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 11:40 AM BST
He/she is part of a powerful PC clique which is determined to turn your life upside down in rather short time, do not underestimate them.
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 11:59 AM BST
saddo

what are the restaurants called that turned away those two women in Paris?
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 12:04 PM BST
You clearly disbelieve what I wrote Whisperingdeath, I can do nothing about that. I would not insult the lady by questioning her so.
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 12:04 PM BST
You clearly disbelieve what I wrote Whisperingdeath, I can do nothing about that. I would not insult the lady by questioning her so.
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 12:11 PM BST
These restaurants should not get away with it. Ask her saddo! Why would it be insulting to ask her?
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 12:13 PM BST
This country is a great country to live in whatever your country of origin or religious persuasion. I would feel safer here than anywhere in the world.
Report Platini • October 14, 2017 12:38 PM BST
always makes me chuckle when anyone from the LGBT community has a pop abut racism.

when in fact the LGBT community is absolutely rife with racism itself.  staggering levels of racism actually.
Report jamesdean • October 14, 2017 12:51 PM BST
It wasn't good enough for her/him/that that white people weren't racist, white people had to go one step
further and prove they weren't racist!  A truly vile creature he/she/that was
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 12:58 PM BST
or whatever your sexual bent!

This is a most tolerant country even with so much intolerance!
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 1:01 PM BST
People sometimes confuse intolerance with dislike. They can force people to tolerate almost anything, they can never force people to like something.
Report Whisperingdeath • October 14, 2017 1:13 PM BST
yes tru dat
Report jamesdean • October 14, 2017 1:25 PM BST
She gave normal black trannies a bad name
Report Injera • October 14, 2017 1:41 PM BST
Control the language and you control the people.

Could go further and say 'redefine' or 'reinvent' the language and you control the debate and the masses.

The bizarre use of 'phobia' (fear or aversion to something) in terms of islam and gays is an example. Both invented to deter critique of islam and the gay lifestyle.

Tolerance = the ability or willingness to tolerate the existence of opinions or behaviour that one dislikes or disagrees with..

In practice those who talk of tolerance are often very intolerant of differing opinions! See those Americans who didn't want Trump to be inaugarated edspite the fact he won the election.

'Diversity' :variety, miscellany, assortment, mixture, mix.

Again, those who espouse diversity are quick to silence those who have a different view. For example, the BBC's silence on the FLA last week was deafening.

'Extremism' is now a derogotary term aimed at those who believe a marriage is between a man and a woman! (see Amber Rudd's latest ramblings).

A 'radical' is a Muslim who blows up a concert but NOT a Muslim who has banned his wife from riding a bike or threatens his kids with apostasy laws if they leave Islam.
Report lfc1971 • October 14, 2017 3:49 PM BST
We may have to reevaluate the theory that all races are equal if she continues with nonsense like that.
Report saddo • October 14, 2017 3:54 PM BST
Unfortunately, being equal does not mean being compatible. I would not choose to share a country with people like him/her.
Report Torquemada • October 14, 2017 4:45 PM BST
Excellent post Injera.
Report casemoney • October 14, 2017 5:18 PM BST
Not sure of the Womans Name Only caught a few seconds of it before I switched channels ..

Shirley she will be Headhunted by Jezza and the Mob ?? Abott must have been at her front door at the crack of Dawn next day LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report treetop • October 16, 2017 7:30 PM BST
Like that case, could Dianne get up that early ?
Report Knight Commander • October 16, 2017 8:22 PM BST
Hardly surprising we're sexist when most wimmin I come into contact with have reasoning ability roughly similar to that of a constipated amoeba Crazy
Report Knight Commander • October 16, 2017 8:23 PM BST
But just because some are coloured doesn't make me racist. I think they're all as bad as each other.
Report Gin • October 16, 2017 9:33 PM BST
Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen never likes to say ‘England’ because ‘it’s racist’

http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/28/laurence-llewelyn-bowen-never-likes-to-say-england-because-its-racist-6961902/

Interior designer Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen never likes to use the term ‘England’ because he considers it to be ‘racist’, he has claimed. The Welsh TV star, once of Changing Rooms fame, and was born in London, was asked about Englishness in Cotswold Life magazine when asked to describe some of his favourite things from the picturesque part of the country. ‘I don’t often use the term “England” because I think it’s racist,’ he said. ‘Whereas “British” can be used in the way that “To be Roman” didn’t mean coming from Rome at all.’ He added: ‘I like that . . . and this is me speaking as a Welshman — an aborigine of the island. I’m very pleased to welcome you all in, obviously.’ Llewelyn-Bowen, who was once a judge on the ITV reality show Popstar to Operastar back in 2010, grew up in London and according to his website was educated in Dulwich before graduating at the Camberwell School of Arts and Crafts in the 1980s. The presenter has a 17th-century manor house in Gloucestershire and mostly lives there with his wife, Jackie, and daughters, Cecile and Hermione, reports MailOnline. The family also own a Cornish home, where they run a gift shop.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/28/laurence-llewelyn-bowen-never-likes-to-say-england-because-its-racist-6961902/?ito=cbshare
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/
Report Ski-Wiz • October 21, 2017 9:51 PM BST
It is not she but he. Wearing woman clothes, wig, fake tits, makes a bloke a permanent cross-dresser. It's no difference to those going to comic-con event where people dress up for the day. It's all a fantasy. Changing gender is impossible.
Report wit-ham • October 22, 2017 10:00 AM BST
Interesting read some posts on here

I work with a black women from Zimbabwe

When talking about current affairs her words were

"you have no idea over here what racism is,people here ain't racist"
Report Platini • October 22, 2017 11:37 AM BST
spot on, wit-ham, the UK is easily the least racist country on the planet. Anyone who's done any reasonable amount of travelling around the world will be able to see that. Staggering levels of racism exist outside the UK. Go to Eastern Europe for example, even some parts of western Europe. And don't get me started on Asia, but nobody wants to talk about that because a lot of the racism there is the wrong colour (and therefore can't be called racism Crazy ) 

and great post Injera. You forgot their fav word, tho. "progressive" - not a new word but the PC mob have given it a completely new meaning - a way of creating division between what they see as good versus bad, right versus wrong. Its something they use to shut down debate and stifle any conflicting voices. Its very clever and a powerful manipulation of language - and its clearly working because people are terrified of not being "progressive"

We need to start calling people out for using these politically weaponised words.
Report 1st time poster • October 22, 2017 5:47 PM BST
roma fans making monkey chants against their ex player at Chelsea the other night,never mentioned on tv,till euefa said they,d be inquiring about it
Report Platini • October 22, 2017 9:25 PM BST
yep, Italy was at the front of my mind when I mentioned "some parts of Western Europe" Cool
Report woodmanchester • October 23, 2017 12:28 AM BST
Ridiculous. Tell a woman she's got nice eyes and it's sexist! Crazy
Report lovegod • October 23, 2017 6:04 AM BST
Depends if you're looking at her eyes and not a bit lower down.
Report woodmanchester • October 23, 2017 10:05 AM BST
Yeah, all about eye contact
Report ufcdan • October 23, 2017 1:39 PM BST
At the time there where many minority governments in Africa but it was only South Africa that people were up in arms about !
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