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The Vietnam War - BBC 4 (best war documentary of all)
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TheBetterBettor • October 12, 2017 4:30 PM BST
Very haunting seeing all those burning monks.... Didn't president Johnson lie about the Gulf of Tonkin attack? so he could give himself a mandate to start the war in the north? Thats what the documentary infers; that the south was acting under the direction of the americans and attacked islands in the north. As to burning monks and lfc's belief in their actions being folly, there are fundementally bigger actions than simply bullying that have greater effects in the long run that bullets and bombs. The whole escapade can been seen as evidence of this; the electorate in usa was its own soft underbelly, that ultimately forced the guns to leave the land. A image being more potent than a 1000 words etc. |
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A is okay.
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David Fishwick Minibus Sales
"the vietnamese; a great bunch of lads." Glad to see you're not a racist! Apart from to the Maoris. Of course, there are no Maoris on Fishwick Island. |
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If you are interested in the vietnam war or helicopters, read "Chickenhawk" by Robert Mason, it's fantastic.
That's a Just Checking (TM) recommendation, it doesn't come better than that. |
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Whatever guys
This is a truly amazing bit of television The soldiers talking on both sides are just incredible ...the way they look back at it. Everyone will have their personal favourite but the glint in the eye of the Vietcong army vet when he remembered the young american GI Joes giving away their whereabouts because they were always smoking a **** was something to behold  |
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I missed that bit, do you mean a "doobie" (to be era relevant).
That is really REALLY stupid, I hate that smell and can smell it quite literally 100s of meters downwind. If they were smoking near the enemy they pretty much deserve to be jumped! |
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f @ g....surely
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Well vietnam is notorious for weed. A f-g that's stupid as well but at least you can hide that with some effort.
You've reminded of the famous last words of the author "Saki": "Put that bloody cigarette out." - then a sniper who presumably saw it, fired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saki |
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Very interesting interlude!
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f a g lol
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Remember the old Paul Hardcastle track '19', with the verses of stats about the average age of american combat personnel being 19.
These were youths in the main, fresh out of school, smoking and drinking was all they had and it looked like they all smoked. Theres a good bit in one of the episodes where a black guy tells the story of going on leave after his tour and the bombs chasing him all the way out and him thinking it was gods way of catching up with a wrong he did in killing all the innocent ones who never even had sex and letting him off by mistake. He then tells of not being able to catch a taxi back home while in uniform because to them at home he was still 'only' a 'ni**er'. |
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wasn't **** it was BBQs
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The guy was on about tracking the american forces via their discarded butts like you might track an animal via its foot prints.
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You would have thought the Americans would have learnt that trick from the American Indians.
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tooth paste and after shave too! FFS!
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Very good music on the program....with track listings on the end credits.
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There is a TV series called 'Battlefield' that has done 12 1 hour programmes on Vietnam which are well worth watching - often found on some of the History channels. More usual to come across some of the second world war programmes but these are also very informative, especially the Eastern Front shows.
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I always like the one that whisperingdeath mentioned; world at war. The thing with that one is it was very dry and of its time.
Ofc war is serious but eras change and wars are fought differently and technology progresses. As TBB notes the soundtrack of the period is almost like a film like apocolypse or full metal jacket. Seeing the american embassy taken and the despiration of getting it back all caught on film gives the reality of what actually happens beyond the propaganda. |
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The world at war is imho the best and will never be surpassed. You can't interview the major figures now, as they are all dead!
Also James Stewart was in it, in one of his best roles as real bad ass B24 pilot. |
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battle lines being drawn, commies protesting in chicargo , Nixon gets elected good news.
Great American music in this documentary , that's something else to be thankful for . |
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Nixon the true face of democracy.
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Watergate doesn't bother me.
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The allegation was that he disrupted potential peace to get IN and then ultimately got impeached and thrown OUT of office.
Whether that bothered you or not is immaterial. |
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He wasn't impeached . And he didn't disrupt peace , of course that is what that biased dicumenrmtary tried to imply ,
But that's the way with leftists, didn't explain how. |
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What a maggot fart you really are.
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Here we go.
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You shouldn't be rude like that dustybin, that's how wars start.
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We know you want Nixon to have been impeached, that doesn't make it true
We know you want Nixon to have stopped peace in Vietnam to win the election That doesn't make it true either. |
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Anyone with any small bit of sense could work out that it wasn't in Nixon interest, electoral or otherwise to stop peace in Vietnam .
What votes was he going to lose if the democrats had pulled troops out if Vietnam , try and work that out and stop believing everything you are told. |
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Claiming a technicality that Nixon wasn't actually impeached when he resigned before three counts were brought and confidence in him totally shot and ultimately the greater humiliation on the country is pathetic.
I've seen many take umbridge with you lfc but because I too am outspoken I just let leave people to say what they believe. But I've done with you too. |
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I've told you, Watergate doesn't bother me.
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And you don't me.
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I think the next line is, "Does your conscience bother you?"
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That's the one northernlite : )
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Boo hoo hoo.
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boo boo boo isn't it, after reference to George Wallace?
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Yes I think so as governor of Alabama .
It's not as if everything is black and white, even in Alabama |
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No I remember skynard talking about it, the governor was mussel scholes , Wallace the democrat candidate
He lost. |
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??? think you are a tad confused there. Muscle Shoals was the site of a famous music recording studio, still is,
where like of Otis Redding & Aretha Franklin recorded. |