Studyforms Post

the irony

It is becoming ridiculous .

the irony is why was Studyform complaining about posts being removed,

and when it was pointed out that he had reported other people himself this didn,t seem to bother him in the slightest.

studyform likes to decide who can post, what can be posted , who he can report.

why does he think that is a good thing, and then complain about posts being removed? and when another poster says ah, didnt you report me he manages to convince himself that it was deserved
i don,t know.

We can expect one of his rants soon.
should be spectacular.

lfc you remind me of a young do wah diddy

who could deny that

that is very high praise donny, but not deserved.

do wah was the best poster OF all with small sketches of life that shouldhave been compiled into a book.

the L.S Lowry of the chit chat forum.

Agreed lfc. His asides in his stories were priceless.

Couldn't give a t0ss tbh.

Idiots like lfc and and troublemakers like akabula and the 'reporters' can keep the place to themselves.
You all deserve each other.

You're a 'reporter' by your own admission.

Just the once akabula, yes. I told you beforehand.
And it was purely on the basis that you wouldn't dare to speak to someone like that to their face.
And it was after I asked you to stop several times.

Hardly the same thing as anything I posted about is it?
Never mind that, you can twist facts and make stuff up to suit your personal thrill seeking if you like, rather than accept or agree that the report function is being abused.

Anyway, it gives you loads of chance to fill your ancient boots trying to have a go at me doesn't it?

Just the once still makes you a 'reporter'.
BTW as someone who doesn't press the report button I did question why people felt the need.

i think youve just found out aka, seems a decent reason having given somebody a warning

but the problem is the excessive reporting, and seemingly needless
reporting of posts that cannot be considered to be offensive

how can you follow a debate if some posts are needlessly removed

maybe its just somebody having a laff, or has a grudge, but surely
its not needed, and if it were your posts you may not feel the same

As a last resort, because there is no other recourse as there might be in the real world.
I'm sure you trod in dog poo at least once, but it doesn't make you someone who treads in some every time you see some does it?

So without splitting hairs and arguing for the sake of it, despite your claim that I'm just like the fools I'm complaining about, you should be able to accept that there are serial reporters who are doing their thing to disrupt the forum, to have a larf of some sort and because they are the reason computers shouldn't exist, without putting your thumb to your nose and whining "You did it too, you're a reporter" like a 7-year-old in the playground.

What donny said.

not only are posts removed making a debate useless but folk are getting banned
for nothing

maybe thats what somebody wants

@anxious he didn't give me a warning he asked me to retract what I said.
Agreed regarding the needless reporting but surely everybody bar a few think like that.

You reported me SF. Stop trying to justify it.
You threatened me with violence but I didn't report that.
Grow up and grow a pair

we wont know if the posts are removed

Erm i have never reported anybody , although i have been banned twice by people reporting innocuous posts

maybe thats what somebody wants

Jeez anxious you wouldn't need to be Sherlock Holmes to have fathomed that out.
I don't buy into the 'banned for nothing' simply because I've had numerous posts removed but no ban.
At some stage a moderator must be making a judgement on the posts. Maybe it depends on his position regarding the subject matter that results in the bans.

No i was told that there is nobody moderating the forum , they just rely on reported posts

Erm i have never reported anybody , although i have been banned twice by people reporting innocuous posts

The bans won't have been simply because someone reported your posts but as I said because a moderator took a view on them.
Take your word for not being justified.

being Utd deserves a month maybe 3

The Politics forum as been completely ruined, even posts on iain duncan smith were deemed offensive for a while

I've no doubt it is exactly what someone, well a few people actually, wants, Donny.

What are you talking about "trying to justify it"?
You were rank out of order, and I asked you to stop or I'll report you, (see above), you didn't, so I did what I said. I'm not justifying anything, I'd do it again if you were out of order, you are perfectly at liberty to do the same.
BUT and I keep saying and you are deliberately missing the point, so as to rile and argue, like you usually do, it isn't the same as randomly reporting posts and threads to get people banned, is it?

You would rather argue and disagree with everything I put on here than agree with it. Even if it means avoiding every question.

Here you go in simple, easy to understand words:

THERE ARE PEOPLE REPORTING POSTS AND THREADS, EVEN THE MOST INNOCUOUS, INOFFENSIVE POSTS, SPECIFICALLY TO GET PEOPLE BANNED.
THEY DO IT ANONYMOUSLY AND WITH SEVERAL FORUM USER NAMES WHICH ARE NOT USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE.
THEY ARE RUINING THE FORUM
THEY ARE ABUSING THE REPORT FACILITY
THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE FORUM MORE OR LESS BLINDLY OBEY REPORTS
THESE PEOPLE ARE LOVING THEIR WORK

Anything else you type is largely irrelevant. Except you are being cantankerous and also trying to annoy me.

*u

Captain Saturday we shall see , 20 times

No i was told that there is nobody moderating the forum , they just rely on reported posts

I've had dozens of SNP posts removed so why wasn't I banned if that's the case?
The moderators might not be proactive in monitoring the forum but they'll be reactive to the comments reported.

Exactly, they react by removing them and as in some cases their grasp of grammar is shaky or in the case of an extra special complaint by a reporter, if a 'buzz word' or phrase can be picked out, the result will be a ban,

Mo bought his pre paid parking ticket on line

2-0 3 1 Lpool

SF we all know that however simply reporting posts isn't enough to get someone banned.
At some stage a moderator must be making a decision on the content.

captain have you been on the sauce

Oct 11, 2017 -- 6:02PM, anxious wrote:

The Politics forum as been completely ruined, even posts on iain duncan smith were deemed offensive for a while

tbf, it didn't take much ruining.
Also, I can't think of many more offensive things than IDS.

That was to SFs 00.03 post.

If the reporter can make enough of a case, OR enough of them get together (and they DO) to report the same post, than a ban ensues

When i was banned and trying to appeal they encouraged me to report people , surreal  stuff

So you are banned but you are encouraged to report and ban more people

I wrote a fairly ordinary post about the TV weathergirl, not offensive at all, at about 9.30am yesterday, by about 11.15 I had an email warning me and mentioning several complaints about it.
1. There's no-one much about at 9.30am
2. It wasn't worthy of report or nasty in any way.
3. The thread was then removed too

Whoever is reporting posts won't own up and is/are probably revelling in threads like this.
Good luck to them if that floats ther boat but pointless going on about it as it'll only encourage them.

The people running this forum (they're not really moderators) often don't understand what a complaint is about and, are quite often not very good at English, so a load of reports about a single post will often result in a ban.

Which is what I was complaining about.

When I got my warning for my post about Corbyn and McDonnell it quoted the phrase that I had used that was found to be offensive.
What I said was the generally held view of them but that cut no ice.

They ARE revelling in it, absolutely but they won't stop. SO BF need to start looking a bit more closely at the reports and who is putting them in.

Every time one of your posts gets deleted, some of your time has been wasted and some sad jerk is patting himself on the back.
It makes no difference if you go on about it or not, they'll carry on doing it.
It's a replacement for going out to work or being of any use to society.

The email I got yesterday.

We have had numerous reports about your comment "BBC's diversity policy knows no bounds..... blah blah etc etc
Please refrain from posting such comments going forward because they offending a number of users.

Imagine having nothing better to do with your time than to monitor the forum trying to get people banned because they aren't fellow knuckle draggers.

Is it the same 'knuckle draggers' who also get my posts removed regularly? I somehow doubt it, I'll leave you to find a suitable collective noun for em.

You won't stop it but you'd think that b/f would notice it is the same people over and over doing the reporting.
I say the same people because I don't think the vast majority of posters are that easily offended.

I've forgotten how many times I've been reported. I have gone over the top a fair few times but have always apologised when shown to be in the wrong, this place seems devoid of banter now which I think is a shame.

Tut tut , there he goes again " knuckle draggers "
That's not very nice.

Hey saddo, .

Tis a shame Foxy but only b/f can do anything about it and they probably aint that concerned with the forum.
Anyways I'm off now. Goodnight all.

The moderators find those who have been too offensive with marvellous accuracy , judging by some of the names here who have been banned .

I think it's possible to report anonymously too, akabula, but I'm not sure. I'm absolutely certain most forum users aren't so easily offended.
10 years ago it was fun and had hundreds more regular users and there was no report button and it was properly managed.
There was even a Betfair Community Manager, (more than one, in fact). I had the pleasure of an evening out with some of them.
It's run from outside now and not by BF itself. And it's got a bit political and has been infiltrated by the people I was moaning about yesterday (no doubt the same ones who got the thread removed), who were asked to "spread the word via forums" and have never stopped.

goodnight all from me too.

do wah diddy?

shirley not lfc

even you cannot argue with that

GN aka.

GN STUDY/guys

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever from studyform ,
Why are posts being removed , it's s complete mystery sometimes .
But it has got nothing to do with some right wing plot
complete nonsense .

Look I will explain why studyforms post was removed, it was not removed because of anything he said ( I mean the 2nd thread)
It was removed because of something the leopard posted .

carry on

The thread that studyform put up complaing about his thread being pulled , which then in turn was pulled .
It had nothing on it that was said by studyform it was leopards post .
Not that leopards comment was particularly anything to worry about , it didn't worry me,

Round and Round it makes me dizzy

oh

that makes sence


cheers

Plots and counter plots , yeah that makes sense too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDPlU6ioZU

so why would the mods warn study and not leopard?

and why ban do wah diddy if they are so incisive

Well study said he was warned about his comments on the BBC and the thread was pulled

When he put up a thread complaining about his thread being pulled this then went as well :)
But that thread went because of something the leopard said

The final post in that thread.

Thinking about it leopards post was not something that anyone was likely to report, apart from perhaps myself.
And as I didn't report it , and I don't think anyone else would have it seems that what is being said is scrutinised by the mods even without anyone reporting.

Then if we take the reason given to studyform for the ist thread being pulled, that was something he said about BBC diversity and nothing he said would have been reported imo
So there again the mods have pulled that thread , and told studyform that people had reported it
I doubt if that is true either.
The moderators made the decision , certainly in the second case without anyone reporting it.

In the second thread I mean, no one reported anything on that thread, but it was pulled because of something the leopard said , without being reported.
So there is active monitoring of what is being said on the forum.

i was once chatting on the football forum about cheating and mentioned a name

the person i was chatting with mentioned a name and post was removed within a minute or less

he repeated the post and it was removed again after briefly appearing

i said the mods must be watching, (and they couldnt have been acting on a report as it was so quick)


anyway neither of us got warned


when i got banned it said forum is not actively moderated, so i assume it is not

You see you have to understand what the report button is for.
Why it was put in.
It was not added so that we could report on things that we didn't like that were offensive or whatever.

It has nothing to do with that. It was more subtle.
It was put in so that it would be a kind of cover for the people who run the forum, betfair or whoever.
They can have the illusion that the forum is being regulated by ourselves , that is an easy way of disguising that they themselves are monitering everything that is said
Not very efficiently of course because some innocuous things are censored.

But the point is quite a subtle and clever thing they have done. The report button is not there to help us moderate the forum
If is there so as they can say , as in the case of studyforms ist thread that people had complained .. they hadn't.
And the second thread that people had complained , they hadn't.