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casemoney
09 Oct 17 22:19
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A GAY dad brutally murdered his adopted toddler daughter after calling her "Satan dressed up in a baby grow", a jury heard today.  Shocked

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4645753/gay-dad-matthew-scully-hicks-branded-daughter-satan/
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Report Ramruma October 9, 2017 10:32 PM BST
There are grounds for suspecting that most parents who kill their own children are heterosexual.
Report casemoney October 9, 2017 10:47 PM BST
Well this is obviously a Same Sex couple who adopted the Little Girl ,Reading the Story
Doesn't look like this Bloke could hack it as a Dad ..

With probably about 400 SSC adoptions yearly and Millions of Straight parents you would be correct .

As with a lot  of these attrocious happenings Looks like Social Services and Health care

Missed the Boat again ..
Report Ramruma October 10, 2017 3:17 AM BST
Perhaps they did miss the boat. The Sun mentions another child, and a vitamin D deficiency so things might be a bit more complicated than first appears. Only two weeks after formal adoption but eight months really.

Sometimes adults can't cope, or just snap. Should the neighbours, the husband or social services have reacted to the danger signs? With hindsight, of course they should. But surely we have all had experience of babies crying for no apparent reason, or known people who have expressed similar frustration.

Sometimes bad things happen to innocent people. First removed from her birth mother, who presumably could not cope; later killed. RIP, Elsie.
Report lfc1971 October 10, 2017 7:45 AM BST
A child needs a mother not two fathers, who could  think that is natural or good ?
Report saddo October 10, 2017 8:07 AM BST
People who will accept anything at all rather than make someone feel excluded, I would think.
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 10, 2017 8:15 AM BST
Someone who puts the interests of the child above those of histrionic, homophobic pensioners who neither know or care about the child in question?
Report pxb October 10, 2017 8:19 AM BST
I'd guess the child was born drug addicted, which caused behavioural issues. The 2 men were probably guilty of watching too many soaps featuring gay child adopters. Doesn't excuse what he did. But may explain it.
Report Ramruma October 10, 2017 8:30 AM BST
A child needs a mother not two fathers, who could  think that is natural or good ?

The child had a mother. From OP's Sun link: Elsie, who was removed from her drug user mum within days of her birth

Not really sure what "natural or good" brings to the table, especially after the mother has already been ruled out. Natural dad is not mentioned anywhere in the report.
Report lfc1971 October 10, 2017 8:40 AM BST
We know the child had a mother , we know there are very many bad mothers. That is not the point.
No one with any sense and free from liberal and leftist dogma would allow a child to be fostered by two men.
It's madness.
Report Ramruma October 10, 2017 10:14 AM BST
Even if it is madness, what's it got to do with this case?

Would Elsie still be alive if the man who killed her was married to a woman who did not kill her, instead of a man who did not kill her? No. Obviously if the man who did not kill her was married to a woman who did not kill her, that would be better, but he could also be married to a different man who also did not kill her.
Report lfc1971 October 10, 2017 10:27 AM BST
With this case ?
Well let's put it this way , if it was illegal for two men to foster a child then the child would still be alive.
Report howard October 10, 2017 1:43 PM BST
The child had multiple fractures/injuries caused over the length of the adoption. Just snapped BS.
Report treetop October 10, 2017 10:11 PM BST
Multiple injuries suggests that the problem has been more than 'just snapped', he should have put his hands up to social services and said I cant cope long before the final injury.
Report akabula October 10, 2017 10:21 PM BST
PorcupineorPineapple
Someone who puts the interests of the child above those of histrionic, homophobic pensioners who neither know or care about the child in question?


Hardly had this childs interests at heart.
Report Sica Dan October 11, 2017 12:36 AM BST
Isnt he trying to blame the sister?
Report casemoney October 11, 2017 2:29 AM BST
Agree with Treetop.
Report casemoney November 7, 2017 9:05 PM GMT
18 years ,Hope he Rots tbh ..

The BBC have managed to swerve that They are Husband and Husband in the report ,infact

no mention of Gay at all ,very strange .
Report terry mccann November 7, 2017 10:00 PM GMT
mind blowing anyone could be so cruel/evil
Report akabula November 7, 2017 10:01 PM GMT
Well it does if your opposed to same sex parents adopting.
Report fife November 7, 2017 10:12 PM GMT
Only if you believe she died because of the parents sexuality which would make you as stated in my previous post.
Report akabula November 7, 2017 10:21 PM GMT
No but because I believe, as do many, that a child needs a mother and father and not two of the same sex.
But you keep labelling people if keeps you happy.
Report casemoney November 7, 2017 10:34 PM GMT
The reason the case was highlighted in the First place was because it was a same sex couple

Infact unbelievable no mention of the Partner regardless of sex Plain

In a previous article they do mention that the Husband was away working, if you had not read
that, you would be unaware this was a gay couple  ,you would actually think he may be a single parent ,never ever seen a report where one parent is sentenced for Murder and there is no mention of the other Shocked
Report Foinavon November 7, 2017 10:48 PM GMT
It would appear that minority therefore "victim" groups have to be portrayed in a sympathetic light at all times. When reality inevitably hits the fan, the reaction is to gloss over as much as possible, allegiance to the protected group. It's very noticeable to the cynics amongst us but probably works for a large part of the population.
Report annie. November 7, 2017 10:52 PM GMT
I must admit that in a lot of child cruelty cases both couples are prosecuted or one is prosecuted for murder and the other for a lesser charge.  It is surprising that more has not been said about the husband.
Report casemoney November 7, 2017 10:57 PM GMT
Well to not Mention him ,is Extraordinary Plain
Report annie. November 7, 2017 11:03 PM GMT
He has been questioned in court, but not a lot has been reported.
Report portmanpark November 8, 2017 8:55 AM GMT
annie..........think he worked away
Report terry mccann November 8, 2017 8:58 AM GMT
the real parents say if the child hadn't been taken away from them this never would have happened
Report Gin November 8, 2017 10:16 AM GMT
Lets hope he gets put in a cell with Vern Schillinger..........
Report dambuster November 8, 2017 11:03 AM GMT
The old ''Lessons will be learned'', cliche will be preached, and we'll all move on again...
Report terry mccann November 8, 2017 12:49 PM GMT
they are handing over babys over to people like scully-hicks not having a clue or nor caring what sort of person this guy is,giving themto same sex couples when the maternal Grandparents are ready and waiting to take responability for looking after their blood relative,its disgusting isn't it!
its going on morning,noon and night in this country,children are being taken away from women and men who might be goingthough a differcult time,a few things going on in their lives,nothing that's going to harm the child,and that's used as an excuse for future risk and emotional harm to take them to foster homes
Report casemoney November 8, 2017 10:12 PM GMT
The PC brigade will need certain percentages to be Adhered too so all is fair and equal .
Report xmoneyx November 9, 2017 12:06 PM GMT
hope his time behind bars is painful
Report terry mccann November 9, 2017 12:34 PM GMT
from the outset he started on that poor child,so how would his husband not know? cant be that differcult to spot a broken leg etc etc
Report SPOT THE DOG November 9, 2017 4:03 PM GMT
Those that helped place this child in this mans care, should be charged with Culpable homicide. imo
Report dambuster November 10, 2017 10:49 AM GMT
I've always said that SPOT, they should be called to account, the same as these so-called professionals,  who allow care in the community patients, to wander free, and early released prisoners, there should be a law which states, if that person commits a crime, then the person or persons signing the release papers, should be held to account,Then lets see how eager they are to release them .
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