another terrorist attack at the natural history museum

As a father, I can tell you that if I had my young children with me when something like that occurred then I would be terrified for their safety. Myself, not so much, it would be more anger.

I agree. The immediate reaction. Is to be terrified ( flight- as opposed to fight). And afterwards , angry that you were made to feel like that, by something out with your control. All natural.

Blaming Katie Hopkins for the hysteria is as stupid as it is deluded - people are afraid because their have seen others stabbed, blown up, run over by trucks, beheaded in the street, etc. Did Katie Hopkins do any of these things? I try to cut you some slack, Facts, but when you write lefty BS like that it is impossible.

Tell me. Is KH helping the situation, or pouring oil on the flames, just for her own personnel ego ?

Perhaps she is warning Britain of the dangers it faces, of course she could be silent.
It's easy to stay silent.

Not for her ego facts, she's profiting from it. She was just a failed reality show contestant; now she's a columnist, has thousands of troglodyte followers, has a book coming out next month and is a go to person when a network needs someone to (cough) "tell it like it is".


There's money in them there tweets.

Is KH helping the situation? No.

Is she pouring oil on the flames? Maybe to a tiny extent but I don't think many people give a toss what KH thinks or does.

Is she doing it to self publicise or for her own ego? Almost certainly in part, there are media ****s on both sides of the political divide, Owen Jones is every bit as bad on the left for example.

It is important that we have people like Hopkins, she is not afraid to speak .
It would surprise you what people in England think , if you were to ask them and they were brave and honest enough to speak.
Don't listen to the people who want her to be quiet  , don't trust them
They don't deserve to be trusted.

I'm aware of Katie Hopkins and her controversial views, but I reckon I have seen her no more than twice on the telly in the last year or so. I would dispute that she is regularly called upon by MSM looking to court controversy. I only really know what KH says or does because somebody posts about it on here - I'm not into Twitter or anything like that so the original stuff passes me by. That odious clown Owen Jones, however, practically has his own coffee mug on SKY and BBC.

Hopkins , littlejohn , farage all from the same stable of complete idiots and freeloaders

why have i been replaced by GoOnthen on this thread betfair secret agents at it again

Unlike, Hopkins, Owen Jones doesn't preach hate. Isn't a racist or a fascist.

Oct 10, 2017 -- 5:54AM, dr . atkins wrote:

why have i been replaced by GoOnthen on this thread betfair secret agents at it again

That happens when the moderator receives a report about the content of your post and he deletes your post…… then the first post in the thread becomes the title post.

I can't see that because GoOnThen is on my blocked list.

What did you say in your first post?

James O' Brien ( LBC) is absolutely spot on !!


https://www.facebook.com/TheDailyPolitik/videos/1340103326111856/

Owen Jones doesn't preach hate. Isn't a racist or a fascist.

Yes he does. He calls anyone not aligned with his liberal view of the world as fascist and racist.

No apology for your misrepresentation of the facts PP.
You made various claims at what Farage said yet the link you provided didn't back up your comments.
If no apology what about an explanation.

casemoney
09 Oct 17 22:37
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"I also knew the usual suspects would be on here condemning musso terrorists!"


Yes ,will you be Contacting the Met Police to ask them why a Square mile was shut down and Hundreds of people were running for their Lives , bars and Restaurants Evacuated ,If they don't explain it to you there are many on here who will ...

Toyota Prius, Musso driver, car crash.....

What do we assume?

Some would hope it is another musso terrorist attack so they can get on their high horses.

Others who live or work in London and have the misfortune to share the roads with UBER Drivers assume the daft beggar has crashed and tried to skip it because he is not insured, or legally in the country.

Its a Mad sad world we Live in

And I will admit to being Guilty of Jumping the Gun on these Type of Happenings

Think we all do casemoney mind you sadly we're not often wrong. After Las Vegas though we seem to have our fair share of bad people or at least America does

Our societies are becoming increasing violent. We have to look at the nature of our society, what does it produce and what is its culture.
In the past great societies managed to produce works of art , and science .

But it is the form of those and the nature of those things that count.
If we look at a simple thing like sport . Now it was in Britain that a previous generation managed to create the great sports such as football and cricket and golf , and many more , that become such an important part of everyone's life. And then this spread across the world .

Of course Britain was so rich in culture it had many other things that people in their thousands loved , music and literature etc.
In the mid to the end of the 20c the most important part of our culture was music , rock music invented in America and quickly spread to Britain.
So that this became such an important and central part of our culture .
These were beautiful things.

These were the things that dominated our culture.
But what do we have now?

Well the greatest change has been one in which the culture is increasingly one of violence in films such as pulp fiction to thousands more , and most dangerous of all the internet.

These are the defining things now of our culture whereas in the past it was sport in the early 20c and then followed and alongside the new form of music from America . These things were very powerful we all were part of them from a young age and as part of our life.

But what is our culture dominated by now ? violence in films and computer games and most dangerously on the internet.
This is something that influences our society and people and is as powerful  and as much a part of our society as sport and music was to previous generations.

Idiot

The world is becoming less violent.

easily done casemoney.

Even if we didn't say it we probably thought it which is sad notwithstanding my thoughts on Toyota's!

What the dangerous thing is when people make wild allegations not even based on truth. We are in a lot of trouble. There may well be a lurch to the left and a lurch to the right which polarises society. The merchants of doom spread hate and are on the same side of the coin as ISIS IMHO although they don't go round beheading people they persue a hate agenda.

What is sad is that I have come across a couple of people on here and I will name names like Injera and pxb, whom, I have utmopst repsect for. They are both or rather seem to me to be lovely blokes, generous and polite. I know them from the cricket forum. We have wildly different political opinions. I have absolutely no problem with that and would love to meet with either of them for a drink and hope to one day.

The problem is that whilst we have so much in common there are other people on here who spread their filth. We all seem to be focussed on our differences wheras we should really be uniting on our commonalities. I cannot see for the life of me I have more in common with Karl Marx than either pxb or Injera.

Thunk we all need to spend more time on the cracket phorum  ..,.

mate it is fun and we generally make good moolah! sometimes big! Ashley there is a good source of knowledge and sharing of information on the forum. It is like playing blackjack and we are all trying to beat the dealer. No politics either!

The leftists want the 24,000 free to walk the streets.

Most people have forgotten the children bombed at Manchester earlier this year.

When the next attack happens there will be another debate about 24,000.

How many children do they have to kill before the leftists will agree action is needed?

the rightist want more than the 24,000 removed and we do
not have to wait for the next terrorist attack for them to rant
about them all, a car crash will bring them out again.

leftists want to see terrorists locked up but not internment
of innocent folk

Would you have interned the J Next Door after he appears on C4?

?

What you have interned this person:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/05/london-terrorist-appeared-channel-4-jihadi-documentary-tried/

Before London Bridge attack?

ive not seen the program

it would be great to know who would commit crimes and when
and stop them before they acted

internment just causes resentment and recruits far more than it
could ever prevent

if folk are planning acts of terror then the law should provide for their detention,
and trial.

So you are in favour of enemies being left to walk the streets of the UK?

It seems like it is more than just the musso terrorists who want to take our freedom away!

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out

If you know who these enemies are Insider Trader, why don't you do the right thing and report them to the Police?

thats not what i said, why make it up?

The ECoHRs has hindered us when dealing with potential terrorists.
For a start those hundreds who returned to the UK after fighting with ISIS should never have been let in.
I'd deport any immigrant preaching hate and jail the others.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk › News › Greater Manchester News › Lee Rigby

Everything that is wrong with the ECoHRs. He should have no rights other than the basics.

I dont know who they. But we are told there is a list with 23,000 on it:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/huge-scale-of-terror-threat-revealed-uk-home-to-23-000-jihadists-3zvn58mhq

Well there's a first!

Watched a few videos of the FLA march on Saturday. (posted one on the other thread).

Struck by a guy originally from Iran who recalls it as a secular country but then came under Islamic rule. He said the Left embraced Islam and welcomed their takeover but then bore the brunt of that decision.....

Ultimate irony is that unless the Right are listened to, what the Left hold dear will be under threat: Womens' rights, gay rights, pluralism, unions etc.

Do you recall after the terrorist attacked in London the images of those involved , and also their friends with an Isis flag in a London park .
How many of those people have been arrested and deported out of Britain .
Or are they still here along with thousands of others who hate Britain and the west.
Not one of those people in that photo should still be free   they should have been jailed and then deported .
If they are born in Britain? deport them the deserts of Africa or the foothills of the Pakistani Afghan border .

you cant deport british citizens, we used to do it but not any more.

If they have fought for a foreign power you can.

It is a question of will, we should not fear to oppress anyone who carries the Isis flag , they are not British citizens  if they carry that flag. Deport them.

Will they become refugees ? Good , let Iran or Afghanistan or some other lovely Muslim country take them.

all british mercenaries who have fought for foreign forces that do not favour our government?

deport them all ?


what about those supplying them with arms too? or funding them?

send those packing?

donny if it is British mercenaries fighting in a foreign country that is a matter for the foreign country .
I don't care .

If however we are at war with a foreign country. And a British citizen helps that foreign country that is treason and should mean a sentence if death .
We hung lord haw haw for his silliness

when they come home ?

you dont care, i thought you didnt want them back in the country?

what about mark thatcher and his gang?

they are not allowed back , they are deported . Leave them somewhere in the African deserts .

donny Britain is not at war with any African country, Africa with all its deserts could not be more foreign to me than some parts of England.
Don't however confuse one with the other,

Should Africa deport Mark Thatcher? I don't know.

i am not confused, surely some of them fighting for is were in africa

are you not counting them?

You will have to explain to me why I should worry about Africa.
Everywhere must take care of itself so that everyone can be free and easy everywhere

Who could deny that ?

i think it would be an impossible task

who would disagree with that

Its All about Multiplication .Never Mind Deportaion

amplification of islamic terror by islamiphobes ?

So you're happy with the 400 ex ISIS fighters who were let back into the country Donny?

thats not what caused this crash aka

i wasnt happy they went , nevermind came back

He will be more than happy once they are receiving Full benefits and have fathered 34 children each and are Receiving the correct amount of Child Benefit ,I should imagine
they have sourced several old Boilers already to kick things off ..

oh dear, some folk attempting to discuss issues

and a bigot

thats not what caused this crash aka
Hardly surprising people thought this a terrorist attack Donny, no big deal.

no big deal

really

its a major deal if it keeps happening , terror or non terror

it seems like a crash is an excuse to express bigotry on here

then we get nasty posts attacking other users like casemoneys 9.55 post

its really quite sad and pathetic

Bigot For telling the Truth ??

You could get a one-off payment of £500 to help towards the costs of having a child. This is known as a Sure Start Maternity Grant.

You usually qualify for the grant if both of the following apply:

you’re expecting your first child, or you’re expecting a multiple birth (such as twins) and have children already
you or your partner already get certain benefits

The no big deal comment was a reference to the reaction on here.

it is a big deal though

hence the number of posts on a quiet forum

Nothing Nasty about it ,ISIS fighters have no Right to re-enter the Country IMO ,Once they
Have re- entered they will be eligible for all Benefits ,its only natural they will
be banging a few kids out to help with Finances and to obtain housing ,that is what
will happen ..

Certain parties will be on their side should there be any problems of them obtaining such
Benefits Would you have any allegiance to these parties Donny ?

Never knew that case.
Always wondered why anyone on benefits (and struggling we are led to believe) have children.

Never knew that case = the £500 grant.

why attack me ?

more divergence, more tangents, oh dear

hes not a bigot so he must have an allegience?

AK I have known it for years ,I used to do a bit of work around the White city estate in London ,I would say the People there are 90 % Somalian Origin ,there are two things you won't see one is a single Buggy the other any Working males ,if the Father is present at all... Some of the flats had the appearance of being nursery Schools

A double buggy and Pregnant lady pushing it the Norm .

Donny the only reason the likes of ISIS fighters are allowed to re-enter the country they came from is because of the Luvvies and Lefties of said country ...And pathethic Civil liberty Laws they Support .. Jezza certainly a champion of Such laws ..

And all a drain on society case.

in your head that must be true, as with the attack on me, your previous go at studyform, your ranting
on lily allen , and your ridiculous comment at 10.15 on here.

it really is quite sad

Yes ,Like a big baby Factory ,Tbh the lack of males often led me to wonder if there was some sort of Immaculate Conceptions Going on .

DONNY not sure where you Live  but if you can at some stage visit that part of West London

you will see there is nothing Ridiculous Re the 10.15 post ITS ALL TRUE ,its not a Racist

Comment it is the way it is ,I say fair play to them if that's what they want to do but as

AKA says its not as smple as that...

IMO Child benefit/s should only be available for the 1st 2 children in any family why should the state be funding anyone to have children after that ? 

And certainly not handing out money incentives to people who surely cannot afford to have more children anyway ?  Never mind trying to house the people Going forward ...

Can't remember which poster first said this but it is generally correct.
Immigrants arrive in this country with a great sense of entitlement.

Hopefully the Royal family and the rest of the hangers on take note

As for Allen do you think its Correct her ,insulting Eubank, regarding being Adopted after
His parents broke up, Adopted by a woman he Clearly holds in High Esteem ..

What has that got to do with her ,Sounds like the ravings of a Nutter to me ...

The Truth can hurt AKA ,hence many try to ignore it ,infact many make a living by trying

to Hide it ..

Thanks to the generosity of Her Majesty the country has an extra *£200m plus to fund these claimants.
(*the difference between the Royal Estates income and what the Queen keeps to fund the Royal Family)
Incredible gesture.

you just need a rant at diane abbott and ive got a full house

They should OWT anxious ,surely they cant be Receiving CB

Your majesty you mean akabula not mine

Diane would be covered in the last Sentence of the 10.42 post

Although i dont mind Elizabeth actually

not like you to miss a chance to name her in one of your racts

rants

Your majesty you mean akabula not mine

I posted Her Majesty so why that?
Although if you are a British citizen she is your Queen.
Not like the bookies where you can opt out anxious.

now no one needs to get barred from betfair do they

just you doc unless one of them hosses jogs up!

A programme i watched once about the royals and was featuring the Corgis and how they were fed at 5pm every day with salmoon and steak , i often wonder do they get a food allowance for the corgis

now now donny we all know you your nickname is comrade donny osmond and has for the horses there won't be anymore so you can save your hard earned money to play on the golf or go and watch cricket

great news doc, hope your mate is ok all the same

he's down to his last 6 million donny know need to worry about him he more worried about comrade corbyn and mcdonnell

more to life than money all the same, pleased hes still doing well though but

there's a but ?

no, just a phrase, sticking but on the end instead of after the word same

a bit like your danny on eastenders going on the oxo....

never seen eastenders even tho lived in the east end of london all my life

i was just using it as a bit of rhyming slang as he said oxo this week on eastenders i am told
and mrs had to ask me what oxo was

oxo cube ..tube i reckoned