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Just Checking
23 Sep 17 02:35
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Anyone Oasis fans who watched it .. when it was on earlier tonight (fri)? Did you see the guy playing piano about 2/3 way through?

He played his song "How Sweet to be an Idiot .." - did you recognise it?
That's the one that they admitted stealing from and paid out for as they used the riff as the opening to "Whatever" Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-3jIrlkYQ
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Report Platini September 23, 2017 9:28 AM BST
If they paid out over that, they are mugs. It's only the first 3 or 4 notes thats the same Crazy
Report TheBetterBettor September 23, 2017 9:49 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkt8E2Ul-Xw
Report cooperman September 23, 2017 10:55 AM BST
Must owe The Beatles millions, still ripping them off with High Flying Birds. Manc twins never had an original thought in their heads.Laugh
Report Just Checking September 23, 2017 12:23 PM BST
The chord structure is the same which they could have gotten away with I'd think, but then the melody he sings is note for note the same which seems way more than an accident, and they admitted it.
Report Just Checking September 23, 2017 12:25 PM BST
I used to argue a lot with my friend Dougal about whether blur or oasis were the better, but after I took that beach guards whistle and was sent down, I realised there were more important things.
Report Hamsterdam September 25, 2017 10:47 PM BST
They were bang to rights on this one I'm afraid. They lifted the interlude too "Here in my mind, you know you might find etc"

How Sweet To Be An idiot interlude@ 1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ9EWcaS7II

Whatever Interlude@ 2:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHfx9LXzxpw

Do I care as a fan? No. Whatever is a million times over a better song.
Report Platini September 25, 2017 11:24 PM BST
Nope, that bridge section in Whatever sounds more like a Beatles track than that awful Idiot song. The only thing thats the same is the first 4 notes of the verse, and thats not enough to be called a rip-off. Oasis knocked off the Beatles of course and blatantly nicked riffs from the likes of T-Rex and The New Searchers, to name just 2. But they were always up front about it. There really is no such thing as 100% original music -its all been influenced by something before. Its the same with languages - its just evolution.
Report Hamsterdam September 25, 2017 11:37 PM BST
What Beatles song? Go to 1:53 of that creepy idiot song you can definitely see Noel lifted that bit also, that isn't coincidence. But yeah he would mix and match stuff from songs, we all know that.
Report The Leopard September 25, 2017 11:42 PM BST
Liam Gallagher and mates....beaten up by a bunch of Italian estate agents Laugh
Report The Leopard September 25, 2017 11:45 PM BST
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/celebrity/oasis-frontman-beaten-up-by-computer-...
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OASIS lead singer Liam Gallagher was beaten up by a group of estate agents and computer salesmen in a nightclub fracas 17 months ago, not gangsters as was originally claimed, according to Munich police.

They also said Gallagher had been using cocaine and was "totally drunk" when the mle broke out in the nightclub, attached to one of the city’s premier hotels. Now his five attackers are likely to be charged with causing grievous bodily harm in the brawl that cost Gallagher his front teeth and left much of the nightclub furniture reduced to matchwood. Gallagher, 31, could also face proceedings, Munich’s chief prosecutor, Anton Winkler, said yesterday.

He added: "He was the worst one in the entire episode. He assaulted a police officer who was trying to pull other people apart. If proceedings are brought he could face a fine or suspended sentence." Mr Winkler said blood tests conducted after Gallagher’s arrest showed he was drunk and had been using cocaine, although no cocaine was found on him. Other band members are also under investigation and could be summoned.

The fight happened on the night of 1 December, 2002. At the time, police indicated that Gallagher, Allen White, Steven Allen and Philip Bevan Smith were beaten after insulting a group of mafia-linked locals. The men had booked their table at the nightclub under the name of Matera - a local criminal of some renown - which led police along a false trail for many months.

The police report states that the fight began because the Oasis group began flicking peanuts at the businessmen. Their full names have not been released by the Munich public prosecutor, but all are aged between 32 and 38. Their "leader" is called Christian W, 38, described as a "muscular blond". In the police report, he knocked out two Oasis bodyguards with a brass standing ashtray. The prosecutor’s office says it has statements from 50 witnesses to the fight and that "in all probability" a prosecution will follow.

Lawyers for the men are angry that Gallagher and the others may not be summoned - especially as Gallagher kicked a policeman and was foul-mouthed to other officers who arrived at the hotel. "We feel their fame will allow them to get off, even though they started everything," a lawyer for one of the men said in a statement. Gallagher paid a fine of nearly 250,000 - 170,000 - for his conduct and that of other band members at the time. It may be that the prosecutor’s office will find this sufficient not to press new charges against him.

The Oasis German tour was immediately cancelled after the fracas, and Gallagher flew back to the UK after undergoing emergency dental treatment in Munich. The witness statements and police investigation papers run to 1,000 sides, according to the prosecutor’s office. Rock 'n' brawl singers SINCE the first pop record was made more than 50 years ago, rock groups and pop singers have been terrorising their fellow band members and the general public in drunken brawls. Jerry Lee Lewis set the standard in the late Fifties when he accidentally shot his bass player in the chest.

The guitar player survived and sued him for damages. Jamiroquai frontman Jay Kay was left with a broken nose after an incident outside a nightclub in 2001. Stumbling from London’s Attica Club, the singer launched a foul-mouthed tirade at two girls before taking a drunken swipe at a photographer. Although the singer was left with a bloody nose, he still managed to throw a bottle of vodka from the back of his Mercedes. Lee Ryan, singer with the band Blue, also saw red after a night on the tiles with Girls Aloud stars Nicola Roberts, Nadine Coyle and Kimberley Walsh.

Exiting London’s trendy 10 Rooms with a companion, Ryan allegedly landed a flying kick at a photographer who had snapped the couple. But flare-ups are not the preserve of men. Icelandic singer Bjork infamously lost her temper at Bangkok airport, claiming that Julie Kaufman, a reporter, was harassing her son. Grabbing Ms Kaufman’s hair, she repeatedly banged her head on the ground. Last year, another Girls Aloud star, Cheryl Tweedy, was convicted of a drunken assault on a nightclub lavatory attendant. After downing a cocktail of drinks the singer punched her victim in a "hysterical" outburst. WILLIAM LYONS

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/celebrity/oasis-frontman-beaten-up-by-computer-...
Report Platini September 26, 2017 9:33 AM BST
Ham, I did listen to that bit but the only thing thats the same is the beat (percussion style, banging on the piano). The melody bears no resemblance to Whatever. Maybe if the bridge section in Whatever was played with a piano, you might hear more similarities, but with guitars (and violins) I can't hear anything that sounds the same.

But going back to the first 4 notes, which are identical - I've heard that chord progression before, so its not original anyway.
In fact its very similar to another Oasis song, and I only noticed it the other night when I was out and there was a live band doing some covers. Some guy was playing acoustic guitar and started to play what I though was Whatever, but turned out to be Don't Look Back in Anger. That surprised me but I went back to listen and sure enough the chords are very similar, although not exactly the same - the way this guy was playing it was wrong. But anyone without a good ear would have missed it.  I was tempted to go up and show him how to play it properly Laugh
Report cooperman September 26, 2017 12:25 PM BST
Just look up plagiarism and you'll understand Oasis. On a thread recently about best band in your lifetime there were several who put up this shower. LaughLaughLaugh
Report Just Checking September 26, 2017 1:24 PM BST
LOL just listened to the interlude bit of How Sweet To Be An Idiot that you pointed out Hamsterdam, the @1:40 bit.

Jumps out at me that he himself should be getting done for ripping someone else off. Can you hear it? @ 1:45 on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ9EWcaS7II

Listen to it, then listen to the start of this :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUoYKCKU1w
Report jamesdean September 26, 2017 1:25 PM BST
That how sweet to be an idiot is the same as the Beatles' free as a bird. Although I think the former was actually recorded
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Report Platini September 27, 2017 4:33 PM BST
Octopus's Garden has some similarities also.
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