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Torquemada
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Report cooperman September 14, 2017 8:55 AM BST
Almost had a tear in my eye as Jean-Claude Juncker addressed hundreds of highly paid Eurocrats and realised I would soon no longer be paying their salaries. Excited
Report donny osmond September 14, 2017 9:11 AM BST
employment at record levels.... so why are stagnant wages still with us ?
Report cooperman September 14, 2017 9:21 AM BST
Unfortunately wages only stagnant at the lower end of the scale. Management to worker multipliers risen considerably.
Report 1st time poster September 14, 2017 9:50 AM BST
government to help any start ups,i thought 9 out of every 10 start ups go belly up in the 1st year, would be quicker for government to burn £20 notes in the street or give it straight to the middleton kids, Laugh
Report kincsem September 14, 2017 10:59 AM BST
In the eye of the hurricane.
Report Mick Sturbs September 14, 2017 1:16 PM BST

Sep 14, 2017 -- 9:11AM, donny osmond wrote:


employment at record levels.... so why are stagnant wages still with us ?


because there are so many immigrants willing to work for low wages

Report Injera September 14, 2017 5:12 PM BST
FTSE at record levels since last year's Referendum.
Lloyds back in the private sector. Govt banked a £900m profit on it's bailout.

Airports full
Trains full
Roads full
Football stadiums full
Concerts full
Restaurants doing well, takeaways booming
Record numbers of tourists coming to the UK (cheaper pound)
UK residents made 12 million visits abroad in 2016 (ONS)

...seems like plenty of people have money despite Project Fear.
Report Facts September 14, 2017 5:51 PM BST
Employment at its highest.?
Take out zero hour contracts and similar, you'll get a very different picture.

Favourable manipulation / creative accounting yet again from bullshlt Tories.
Report Injera September 14, 2017 5:55 PM BST
Agreed... Let's take out the 5 million self employed too. They don't get sick/holiday pay and rarely have any contracts with clients. They even have to a d v e r t i s e for work.

Good grief man get a grip.
Report TheBaron September 14, 2017 6:01 PM BST
I think we need a new definition of what being employed is.  These days if you only work part time but still claim benefits you are not counted as being unemployed.  The fact is millions have a job that doesn't pay them enough to live on so the rest is made up from working tax credits, housing benefit etc but as long as they don't count as being unemployed the govt regard this as a success.
Report STUDYFORM September 14, 2017 6:51 PM BST
Part-timers and apprentices are all counted towards figures.
Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Also, a major fact that keeps being missed.
Brexit hasn't actually happened yet.

It's a bit like jumping out of a plane without a parachute. The damage isn't done until you actually land!
Report STUDYFORM September 14, 2017 7:21 PM BST
FTSE and Lloyds helping the population i general, do they?
Airports full - What, ALL of them?
Trains full - er, no they're not, apart form rush hour or when the services are cut so there aren't enough of them, which has happened a lot.
Roads full - Most need fixing and there aren't enough roads - mostly due to the cancellation of road building a few years ago.
Football stadiums full - The big ones might be, the vast majority of teams can barely stay afloat
Concerts full - depends which ones and who's marketing them
Restaurants doing well - er, no they're not
takeaways booming - er NO, they're DEFINITELY NOT. Due to the influx of supermarkets and free and available parking for global type companies, the empty high streets are full of Estate Agencies, Charity shops and Takeaways, there's very little else. Most takeaways barely survive.

What makes you write a list like that?
Is it guesswork, rose-coloured glasses, denial, a real belief that this austerity laden society is actually good for the people of the UK?
Report saddo September 14, 2017 7:33 PM BST
I do actually think high streets were more pleasant without the whiff of greasy kebab meat wafting out of every other doorway tbf. We could lose half of em and there'd still be more than enough.
Report lfc1971 September 14, 2017 7:36 PM BST
Things are not good we are becoming poorer, over the last 30 years or a bit longer than that.
That`s why we are leaving Europe.
Report Injera September 14, 2017 7:50 PM BST
austerity laden society

Laugh

Where do you live study??

Of course the FTSE helps us. Great for pension funds, and higher tax revenues.

You just want to talk UK PLC down. We've never had it so good.
Report Ibrahima Sonko September 14, 2017 7:51 PM BST
Which restaurants are not doing well ?

My local high street has never had so many restaurants in it.
Report lfc1971 September 14, 2017 7:51 PM BST
Employment, in theory, at record levels, that`s because the population is at record levels.
Too many people in England.
Report saddo September 14, 2017 7:53 PM BST
Agree with that, if no one brings jam to the table, the jam we have is spread ever thinner. It seems obvious really.
Report bongo September 14, 2017 9:12 PM BST
Poor Studyform
It sounds like his town has been captured by the Campaign for the Protection for Rural England, various other NIMBY groups, and landowning members of the farmers unions desperate to protect their subsidies, cheap red diesel and business rates exemption.
If you suggested 1930s style planning regulations to them they would go apoplectic.
The residents probably oppose devolving powers to local authorities on smoking, hunting, cathouses, recreational drugs, and what you can do at a football ground and what hourly rate consenting adults can pay each other.

Because everybody everywhere MUST live under the same regulations.

Who would choose to stay in a place like that? Get out before while you still can.
Report Injera September 14, 2017 9:16 PM BST
Study - I don't mean to be crass or flippant. I totally understand many are struggling. But I like history and I've travelled. Our standard of living compared with our ancestors is truly incredible. I for one am truly grateful to enjoy necessities which for centuries were luxuries or mere fantasies.

Abroad I've seen poverty, real poverty. What I see here is nothing of the sort. I see people struggling yes, but I also see a govt with a welfare budget of £218BN  and a charity sector that is second to none.

£218Bn - you read that correctly ( I blinked too!)

Agreed people fall thru the net. That's why we need strong families and support networks of friends to sustain each other when govt can't or won't help.

FWIW I don't support this govt in that I didn't vote for them.

Anyway I apologise if I came across as flippant. I had no intention to.
Report STUDYFORM September 14, 2017 10:23 PM BST
Why would my post disappear?
Not that it matters.

Shame on whoever felt the need to report it. You must be very very sad.

Only things I will say are; that I too have travelled and see/have seen stuff. What really occurs and what I generally rail against is the huge disparity in incomes and wealth, the unfair distribution of wealth and rule by the rich. Not that I have anything against people being rich or having opportunity or a reason to be ambitious, I don't.

I'm not sure I agree with your thoughts on the Charity sector though, which seems to me to be run as a business - well, several businesses, and shouldn't be as necessary as it is and like so many other unnecessary sectors/organisations creams off a decent income for itself before doing its best (if any) work.
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