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every company comes and goes , unfortunately things have a life cycle and then they are gone
Like rock music , it would never have existed without the invention of the electric guitar . It was here for it's time and is now almost dead , like Kodak, perhaps killed by YouTube. It's a pity ? but then someone has to come up with a new art form . It's not inevitable that we can. |
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Did Les Paul know. In the 50s what it would bring about when he invented the electric quitar ( or whoever invented it)
No. the beautiful results and the music that came after would have been impossible to know. |
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You can thank America for that as well :)
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The next time you hear the voice of Roy Orbison , thank America.
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Kodak was killed by digital photography in smart phones.
But the point is that technological advance takes the combined economic wealth of employing people to do things from an analogue world and strips the value and supplies it to a distinct minority who created the digital software. This will increasingly be the template of the future as people's skills are surpassed by technology and what was called a 'post work' age. Though it's clearly not turning out that way from a potential utopian portrayal. In reality this 'progress' creates very rich individuals and a poorer society in monetary terms. All the while the free stuff provided the future unemployed worker will be tracking everything they do, say and ultimately think. |
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or the opening chords to the Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant or God save the Queen and Rottens sneering vocal intro
Thank America for that as well . |
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dusty people are working longer than they have ever done in history , don't worry about work.
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It's not as they make it out
It's true employment remains robust, for now, only because the equation has been altered to limit the impact. Employment rights will be stripped next as downward pressure created by over supply of workers who frankly could and will be replaced. We have already seen zero hour contracts replace contracted work and part time make up a growing share of the picture a s a whole. It's an employment market that stands on very bad foundations that when starts to fall will collapse in terrible ways. |
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Yes we have too many people , that's a political and social decision to be made by individual countries,
There is only one thing that improves people's job prospects and wages and that is shortage of labour. |
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Well that's not going to happen is it when robots and tech only ever get more ability
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I have no problem with progress in and of itself.
My problem is with the spread of wealth distribution, or lack of that comes with it. |
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they said the same thing about computers, the computer revolution created more jobs and wealth , starting in the early 1970s
We are still waiting for people to replaced by computers, it hasn't happened and will not happen. Do you recall just recently there was a terrible panic because hospital computers had been hacked , Guess what , things were ok , not because they found a fairly quick solution. But because the people were still there and computers didn't really do anything, That's how it is with all new inventions , they need people and staff and probably more of them. |
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The truth about hospital infrastructure is down to failed targets and promises by software companies that have never met the requirements of combining all the needs.
That doesn't mean that progress itself flatlines. It's just that the companies touting for contracts promise too much and deliver too little. Innovation in non linear by nature, if we could plot progress then we would be able to determine what exactly would come out when. What we know for certain is that moores law has been consistent for about 50 years, which has made up for all the un realised false hopes over time. How realistic was it to say at the birth of computing that man was going to be redundant so quickly? There are things that will take time to develop, but it's generally accepted already that the unskilled worker is doomed, and even the semi skilled worker has some very real threats as algorithms soon will replace many doctor opinions on things or lawyers over view of past cases etc. Driverless cars were scoffed at only two years ago but already they are on the edge of being a very real thing. People are relying on very insecure laurels and by the time they need to wake up will be the time there is no comeback. |
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The truth about hospitals is that we have more of them, and more people employed in them than ever before .
Skilled workers , and unskilled .? Well who is more skilled , a bricklayer or a plumber, or car mechanic , or an engineer , or an electrician or a city trader , or a politician , or a manager, or an office either , or a nurse, ? I don't know There are only jobs that a country needs to be done , that is what matters When those jobs change then the peoplevto fill those jobs will change also , That is how it has been throughout history . If course you might think that we are suddenly going to alter in some drastic way over the following years. I doubt it. |
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You could take the opposite viewpoint and ask what has been invented in the last 40 years that has changed anything ?
In any country, look around . Nothing has been invented, we are not inventing anything. |
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History didn't provide an entity that grows in ability exponentially.
Now we have that thing and in many areas it's surpassed the skill set of workers who then had to learn a new trade. You spoke earlier of the industrial revolution. Well the loom fired almost the whole work force overnight and lead many into adjective poverty. The only difference was that the rate of progress only made one type redundant at a time so only certain skills became redundant. The speed of progress is called the singularity, it gets ever faster meaning more and more sectors become under threat in a shorter time period, until such time that the rate of progress is so fast that humans no longer know which skills they need to be trained to do. |
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I disagree that the rate of progress is getting faster, progress was much greater and change much faster in the 19th century.
The industrial revolution brought much greater prosperity and must more far reaching change for the average working person and society in general. |
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if you think you disagree then read pretty much any work by Ray kurzweil.
He will explain it far better than I can. |
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sex pistols and America Ifc?
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Then move onto anything by MIT director Erik Brynjolfsson
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Not only did the industrial revolution in the 19th century create jobs , and more of them than ever before, but it created the conditions for a greater population to fill those jobs and created great wealth that everyone in England benefitted from.
There is no reason to believe that would not be the case today , if we were equally creative and inventive. |
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You are missing the point.
The initial stage of some areas within the industrial revolution created new opportunity yes, but only because it provided simple 'dumb' work based on effort that humans were required to do, like in factories initially. But as grunt labour became superseded by technological progress labour itself becomes marginalised. Where humans adapted to assembly lines initially wealth was created and production increased, as wealth is linked to production. But as capital assets replaced labour with machines that could do a cheaper and more efficient job the labour market then got pushed into other areas. The problem is, like the Kodak example that physical workforces and distribution gets decimated by software, machine or Internet (delivery) of products....initially increases productivity, but minimises the areas that an increased supply of workers then need to fit into Those works nolonger retain wages and thus can't buy the products that are being produced more quickly. |
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If you think this is all my personal opinion then you do me a great service, this is the thinking of some very eminent clever minds who specialise in these fields at those American universities like Stanford and MIT.
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Can you two lovebirds (lfc1971 & dustybin) start your own thread ffs.
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Looks like the hospital has taken action against the tyrants who assaulted and illegally arrested the nurse. The Police Dept. has suspended two officers but I think we all know how that will end.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/utah-hospital-bars-police-from-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest/ar-AArkH80?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp |