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I lived in the US and served in the Navy at the height of the "Cold war" the country was told that the USSR was the enemy and that we where protecting freedom and the American way of life ? Thirty plus years on, the reemergence of the Russians as the bogeyman yet again. May I suggest that my fellow countrymen look a bit closer to home
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Would add your still freer in the US but their trying to run the Ruskies a close second
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^ silliest post of the day .
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is that the video where the cop stops a frighten female driver somewhere in the southern US of A and tells her "not to worry we only kill black people" and he wasn't joking ffs!
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The cop handcuffs and arrests a nurse in a hospital because she wont take a blood sample from an unconscious truck driver who was injured when a car the cops were chasing hit his vehicle. She shows him the written policy preventing her from taking the sample and has the hospital legal dept. on speakerphone telling him the same thing, but he's lost the plot and drags her screaming, in cuffs to his car.
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that shows the extremely good civil rights that the people in America enjoy.
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I presume the nurse will be back at her job on Monday.
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the cop I was saying about ifc wont be back at his job Monday or any other day for that matter
,what is happening in the states Cooperman?most seem to be living in fear! |
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most people in the states living in fear : )
I've heard it all now . |
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oddly enough I was talking to an American lady who lives over here now,she was saying you are spied on with everything you do,the expression she used was "everything feels like its closing in on you" on another point why is the media making sure a big point on this black v white thing? and of course saying its all the dons fault as if it hasn't been going on for years
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well the problem is in the modern world people have to be spied on, Owell was right but with a difference, for western democracies the danger is not from their own government but from their fellow citizens.
Why is this ? because in the west there are millions of people who do not believe in western freedoms and values . |
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Because we can no longer trust our fellow citizens , that is why it is necessary to spy on them.
That's how it is. |
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there is a job waiting for you with the C.I,A
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The CIA do a terrific job.
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they certainly do
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Seems like they consider themselves above the law. The Police Chief has apologised but I suspect the moron cop will not be fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEOWnRroQlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGq5O1oZDXs |
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Looks like one of our mods is doing a bit of moonlighting.
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America has been calling itself 'exceptional' for so long and people believe it. It's only natural that a lot of people within America will see themselves as exceptional/superior/above the law too. They worship the military and a job title. Give some thicko on a power trip a cop badge and a gun after less training than a hairdresser gets and there will be problems. Throw in resentment about not being a Navy SEAL and some steroids and it's a complete fcked up mess
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The American people are exceptional, every aspect of life in science , the arts , technology , every aspect of life , they are good at everything .
The most creative and inventive country in the history of the world . |
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The 20th century was the American century. What the American men and women achieved in the 19th and 20th centuries was something like a miracle .
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I have got extremely mixed feelings about America and Americans. I've been all over the place in my time, met good and bad people as you do in any country but apart from Vegas it's not a country I'd ever wish to go to again.
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Saw that clip of the cop arresting the nurse.
Unbelievable, hope he gets sacked. |
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America brim full of entitled s hit- knackers.
The end. |
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Just take a snapshot of a single days news headlines.
Hurricane in Texas making the headlines while a far larger casualty list occurs elsewhere due to the monsoon, and a similar story underpins both....that climate change deniers at the very heart of the institutional mindset of American protectionism sees their rights come before any and all present or future generations. Well get used to it America because you reap what you sow. |
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America is a World on its Own DUSTY a World ,the real world seems very interested in these days
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Yes and the rest of the world is going to have to face up to its responsibilities including hypocrites like dustybin . What is he prepared to sacrifice for climate change , how much money , his job , his car , his family holidays or his families cars and jobs .
And other countries such as Britain and Germany and France and China and Russia and India . Well they are going to have to look after themselves . They don't like to do that , it's easier to be like dustybin and expect others to do so. |
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Now what should America do about so called climate change ? If should do nothing ,
I like to see factories and smoke and dirt , I don't want a future I want a present . That seems to me to be of greater value. |
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Yes, I can see exactly your mentality lfc, first in your wrong assumption of me and second of the selfishness of your entitlement, 'I want a present' statement.
If you knew anything of me, you would know that I lead a simple life, no excesses no holidays, my working days are over my car is seldom used my consumption is limited, in short the luxuries of this invented modern world extend little further than my use of some technology (now rather dated) and my books. What should America do regarding climate change you ask? Show some humility might be a start. Trump and co are largely in the science denying camp and 'business is a virtue', that money is everything and that desires need to be realised. They don't. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. It's very hard for the developed world to dictate an agenda on those countries now committing the same acts the west invented, now that the west have reaped the spoils....but at least acknowledging the science and taking a matured response to it would be a start, not one where toys are thrown out of the pram for short term instant gratification. |
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dustybin I was not talking about you personally , I was using your self satisfied tone as an analogy. Now you lead a simple life, perhaps you would like to give up your computer or mobile phone, considering the harm and pollutants that producing such things produce ?
No ? Now what did the people who invented the industrial revolution owe , what does Britain and later countries like America owe ? It doesn't bother me what Britain did 200 years ago , I insist on being unbothered by that. |
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Now if you continue to use your computer, or phone I can assume you are not particularly concerned about making sacrifices , you know something you might do yourself instead of expecting someone else to do so.
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I'm not implying a life with zero footprint, but as the old mantra goes; everything in moderation.
Moderation isn't what our system is set up for, it's one of excess and greed, of inbuilt obsolescence and land fill, short life cycled products to encourage churn and production, 'wealth' that's seen to be linked to possessions. I use an iPhone 3 and and IPad 3, I did less than 250 miles in the car last year, I don't consider myself to tilt at windmills nor do I get drawn into fashionable need. The path that humanity took was based first and foremost upon themselves that became a model for the economics that was chosen by those in power to provide for others as a secondary issue, this policy uses aspiration as a euphemism for self serving greed. Consideration has been sacrificed, you only need to look how the 'most important man on the planet' is an egotistical collector of golden things and fame, and wealth built out of speculation and opportunism. |
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The people who created the industrial revolution can't have known of its impact, but denying it now and preferring to opine about the meaningfulness of collective international competitiveness is completely bogus and irresponsible.
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Ah, I see dustybin, you won't be giving up your computer or mobile phone then.
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I suppose someone, somewhere will be prepared to do so, where ? I don't know.
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Dustybin is very very moderate , what has he given up again, and sacrificed ? , I don't know.
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Perhaps he thinks people in America are less moderate than he is , they might be , anythings possible.
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It's always the counter argument, that those that already live within a reasonable moral code who show the collective ills for what they are end up getting accused of being wilfully self loathers or have to live in complete bondage to be listened to.
Well that's bollx. The enemy is the person who refuses to listen to reason. All those who grasp with both hands the trophies of their own justified existence, like they are the things they deserve. I have a lot of money, I could live a lavish lifestyle and own all the best of everything whether I need them or not, after all that's what our western mentality would want everyone to do in such a position. |
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I have a lot of money dustybin, I have so much money I don't know what to do with all the money.
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And before you suggest it, yes I could give the money away, perhaps I will, but I'm still relatively young and don't rely on others to look after me so I don't know what I will need going forward....and I've not determined whether anyone is worthy of it yet.
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