Chit Chat
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Would not be surprised if Politics Punter is backing Trump at 2.3 on here at the same time he is being offensive towards him on the forum.
Personally I feel right now is a low point for Trump because he fell for their trick and argued for lockdown which hurt the economy. From here Trump will bounce back. The debates in a few months if it is Biden vs Trump will be sad to watch. What is Trump supposed to do if Biden loses his thread in the middle of an argument? |
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all those things could go up but if the fed stopped stimulus today the stock market collapses tomorrow,that was proved at the end of 2018
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Nancy can't get enough stimulus money to save her failed blue states, so thats not a worry. |
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Yesterday as there was a record high of 125k new cases, Insider trader said that the virus was fizzling out. He simply spouts whatever far right nonsense he reads.
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Oh dear,
Senate Judiciary committee subpoenas coming for all actors involved in the biased Obama era FBI Operation 'Mis'Fire Hurricane which was set up to spy on the Trump Presidential Campaign 2016 and link it to Russians. ----- For the 119th time  ......most testing / most cases |
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if the stock market goes up everything goes up,it was at record highs a few months ago and the deficit is almost a trillion dollars a year,pension funds are borderline bankrupt and as for american infrastructure the less said the better,whoever gets elected in november the country is fcuked,the usa debt at record levels,the fed balance sheet at record levels with promises to basically print unlimited amounts of money to buy anything the big investment banks and hedge funds want to sell and cant find a buyer for,so they can re-invest that money and the only place they can really make any money in this era of negative interest rates is back into the stock market and they know if it does go down and they get caught out with all the plebs the fed will bail them out,the banks not the plebs
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2 months and all those jobless will be jobbed again
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So looks like monday for the two millionth case in the usa - working hard!
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The second waves coming huge numbers..incoming
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0.016 of the population is not huge numbers, Calm down Capt. Mainwaring second wave not planned until nearer the election so as to bring in 'mail in fraud voting'....Don't Panic Capt. Mainwaring |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYa8mEr3sJA
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Oh my Lord! Turns out #bunkerboy's photo-op was Ivanka's idea.
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'If she wasn't my daughter, I'd be dating her'....thats why he is so proud of her.
Proving her special advisor appoinment job was not nepotism but a stroke of genius producing the photo of the year, consolidating his bible belt vote while showing the viewing public what real leadership is all about.  |
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lets hope its not to keep her quiet
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@8.45am
No evidence whatsoever of "mail in fraud voting". “You’ve been talking about voter fraud since the beginning of this administration and where is the evidence of it?” Acosta asked during the White House press briefing, insisting that “all the experts say voter fraud is rare.” Trump replied, “I think there’s a lot of evidence, but we’ll provide you with some, okay?” The president’s re-election campaign responded quickly to Acosta’s request, noting there were nine people charged in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas with “vote harvesting” and mail ballots, a political operative in New York stealing and submitting absentee ballots, and a resident in Pennsylvania receiving seven separate ballots in the mail. The campaign also shared a Heritage Foundation document of over 1,000 proven cases of vote fraud. The Trump campaign also quoted an election expert in the New York Times who said although election fraud was rare, “the most common type of such fraud in the United States involves absentee ballots” through the mail. President Trump cited ongoing legal action from Judicial Watch forcing states to clear millions of ineligible voter registrations within 90 days as proof of voter fraud. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/09/team-trump-to-jim-acosta-heres-your-examples-of-mail-in-voter-fraud/ |
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What does that amount to? 0.0000000001 or similar of votes? And which party gained? One in particular?
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It amounts to FRAUD
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Judicial Watch obviously another hack conservative foundation like Heritage already listed there and absolutely won't actually care about the issues it claims about but just be an attack dog for the GOP
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the bureau of labor admits jobs numbers are likely above 16% after error in how they treated furloughed workers
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for someone who dgaf about 110k dead and 2m ill Americans, sicky does seem to be getting very vexed about 1000 alleged voting irregularities.
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The 110k dead number also seems to be a fraud according to CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm ps. Not sicky at all, feel quite chipper today actually, thanks for asking |
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Hydroxychloroquine does not work against Covid-19 and should not be given to any more hospital patients around the world, say the leaders of the biggest and best-designed trial of the drug, which experts will hope finally settle the question.
Landray said the hype should now stop. “It is being touted as a game-changer, a wonderful drug, a breakthrough. This is an incredibly important result, because worldwide we can stop using a drug that is useless.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/hydroxychloroquine-does-not-cure-covid-19-say-drug-trial-chiefs . |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch
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The Lancet ( respected medical journal of record ) doesn't agree https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/lancet-hydroxychloroquine-study-retracted-shady-data-still-shady/ |
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the lancet doesn't agree about what?
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Hydroxychloroquine does not work against Covid-19 and should not be given to any more hospital patients around the world, say the leaders of the biggest and best-designed trial of the drug, which experts will hope finally settle the question.
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This is an incredibly important result, because worldwide we can stop using a drug that is useless
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a drug that is useless
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The Lancet medical journal on Thursday announced the retraction of a dubious study suggesting that the anti-malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine significantly increased the risk of death and heart-rhythm complications in hospitalized COVID-19 patients worldwide.
The three retracting authors—Mandeep R. Mehra of Harvard, Frank Ruschitzka of University Hospital Zurich, and Amit Patel of the University of Utah—said in their retraction notice that Surgisphere refused to hand over its full dataset and an audit report of its servers for an independent peer review. They closed the retractions with an apology Tut Tut, a healthcare analysis company refusing to hand over data during a once in a century viral pandemic...Why ? what could they be hiding ? |
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Sticky, that lancet story is BEFORE the one Dave and I have posted numerous times. What don't you understand?
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politicspunter • June 5, 2020 7:03 PM BST
A malaria drug that has been tested as a treatment for coronavirus does not save lives, one of the world's largest trials shows. Hydroxychloroquine received global attention after being promoted by Donald Trump, and then controversy after studies on it were retracted. The drug has now been pulled from the UK's Recovery trial, which is run by the University of Oxford. The findings have been passed on to the World Health Organization. Back at the start of the pandemic, laboratory studies had suggested the malaria drug could affect the virus. Small-scale studies in China and France then hinted it might help patients. There was a huge amount of hope, as the medicine is cheap and has been safely used to treat malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis. However, the evidence supporting its use for coronavirus has been weak. 'Not a treatment for Covid' That is why the data from the Recovery trial is crucial. It is the first to test the drug in large numbers of people in a thorough clinical trial. More than 11,000 patients with Covid-19 are taking part, with 1,542 patients given hydroxychloroquine. Due to mounting controversy about the drug, the UK's drugs regulator last night asked the Oxford researchers to review their data. The results showed 25.7% of people taking hydroxychloroquine had died after 28 days. This compared with 23.5% who were given standard hospital treatment. "This is not a treatment for Covid," said Prof Martin Landray, part of the Recovery trial. The trial immediately stopped using the drug. |
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^^I don't know
Anyway Hydroxychloroquine does not work against Covid-19 and should not be given to any more hospital patients around the world, say the leaders of the biggest and best-designed trial of the drug, which experts will hope finally settle the question. Landray said the hype should now stop. “It is being touted as a game-changer, a wonderful drug, a breakthrough. This is an incredibly important result, because worldwide we can stop using a drug that is useless.” So what in these statements does the Lancet disagree about? |
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There is the up to date detail above with the reference to the retracted lancet story (for about the third time).
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