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By:
Slicer
When: 17 Aug 17 20:05
Moroccan terrorist with Spanish e u passport!
By:
TELL DEL
When: 17 Aug 17 20:09
".....just part and parcel of living in a big city"

Could happen anywhere, just hope your not in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Like the Manchester Arena bomb, a load of teeny-boppers leaving a pop concert was an appalling target, wrong time, wrong place, could happen anywhere.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 20:10
I didn't blame Britain for anything, you idiot.
Nor Saudi.
By:
Slicer
When: 17 Aug 17 20:12
Well the Merde of London is certainly Merde of a large city!
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 20:13
Really studyform what were you trying to say then Let's see how much sense it makes
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 20:13
What I'm getting at and what you don't understand, even when it's completely spelled out for you.

Is
THAT ITS POINTLESS BLAMING THE BBC, THE GUARDIAN AND CORBYN.

THIS IS THE FAULT OF NUTTERS AND INDOCTRINATED FOOLS.
NOT BRIIAIN.

The indoctrination emanates in Saudi. Which is why they get some blame
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 20:15
Really and what do Saudi teach that Muslims all over the world don't teach?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Aug 17 20:16
He is off on one again.............
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 20:16
The summary of what you both are about to start fighting on is: Your government sleeps with the same people that promote this nonsense. Whether that is the reason for all this is irrelevant. Point is, your government is the one that has to find a solution to this. And you can't expect them to do that with their current relationship status.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 20:17
As for example in Iran, or Iraq, or Syria , or Morocco ..and every other Muslim country
Or Britain and Germany and France?
By:
Injera
When: 17 Aug 17 20:17
Italy has been spared so far. Bit odd.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 20:18
Nothing makes sense to you, lfc.

You can barely string a sentence together, you never understand what's being said to you.

At NO POINT has or will anyone EVER defend the actions of terrorists.

There is just a desperation of people on this forum to look for someone who defends this stuff.

NO-ONE IS, OR EVER DOES DEFEND IT.
But, all we see is people going on about The BBC, The Guardian, The Lefties..... blah blah blah.
when none of them ever defend anything awful that's been done.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 20:20
The BBC and the guardian and other news outlets are to blame , they are full of people who hate Britain, and hate British values and hate British people , they are to blame
By:
Injera
When: 17 Aug 17 20:21
You're correct Study - they don't defend it.

They merely excuse it and deflect the blame away from the problem. And as the problem is not named by media and govt, then the solution is never found.
By:
Slicer
When: 17 Aug 17 20:22
Injera-Italy won't get attacked-it surrendered to Bin Laden at the time of 9/11-just in case. It waved its national flag- a white cross on a white background!
By:
moisok
When: 17 Aug 17 20:43
as I was saying - if you are a bearded one all you need to do is get an eu card

job done

and they welcome them with open arms  with the bbc etc conspiring to make out everything is rosy

especially the 30 year old children

I notice femaleLove charity workers have a liking for a refugee or two  cough cough!!!
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 17 Aug 17 21:06
Spain's Royal Family say "they won't terrorise us" after a van crashed into a group of people in the Las Ramblas area in Barcelona.

With round the clock armed security and bodyguards everywhere they go I doubt they would feel terrorised.
By:
acquiesce12
When: 17 Aug 17 21:12
SEEN VIDEOS ON TW@TTER, SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE A DEAD CHILD'S BODY, SOME HORRIFIC SCENESSadSadSad

THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE THESE VIDEOS OTHERWISE HOW ELSE IS THIS PHUCKING MADNESS GOING TO END IF PEOPLE DONT WAKE UP AND GO STRIAGHT TO THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM AngryAngryAngry
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 21:34
None of you will ever see ANY defence of terrorist atrocities.
The blame lies with the terrorists and those who teach them.
Which makes them hard to stop.

I've never seen anything resembling a solution here or anywhere else.
I've never seen anyone excusing it either. Where is it excused?
Show me where anyone has really excused terrorism?
I've not seen deflection either. You're just not seeing "kill all Muslims" or whatever it is you want to see.

Do you REALLY think it possible to kick every Muslim out of Europe?
It seems to be the only answer I ever see here. Any other answer makes people sympathisers or apologists, because there's no reasoning.
Is this the way forward? Is this what has happened throughout history?

Has the bastad with the van done it because we are "soft on immigration"?

The BBC and Guardian don't hate Britain - That's a ridiculous thing to say.
They just don't do what the Mail and Sun do and get into base populism to make a lovely profit.

The Mail - The paper that wanted Britain to join with Germany in the 1930's!

Now, don't twist what I've said. I'd love to get hold of the people who do these things, alive. Then I'd use them to put anyone else off the idea of doing the same.
But, the OTT reaction of people against every foreigner, every Muslim, solves nothing.

The only question I'm asking really. Serious question. Is:
What would you actually do to stop this?
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 21:36

Aug 17, 2017 -- 3:12PM, acquiesce12 wrote:


SEEN VIDEOS ON TW@TTER, SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE A DEAD CHILD'S BODY, SOME HORRIFIC SCENESTHE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE THESE VIDEOS OTHERWISE HOW ELSE IS THIS PHUCKING MADNESS GOING TO END IF PEOPLE DONT WAKE UP AND GO STRIAGHT TO THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM


Most of the world sees scenes like this everyday. Its us that aren't used to it. A war we didn't give a crap about when it was thousands of miles away is at home and we need to accept that.

By:
moisok
When: 17 Aug 17 21:46
It is their duty to take over.  That is what a good muslim believes

hope this helps
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 21:48
What would you actually do to stop this?

Nobody can do anything. As long as people are blaming islam and not the politicians, its gonna stay the way it is. Politicians know it.

Was it islamic teachings that were responsible for the 600 migrants that Spain brought to its shores because they were themselves unable to make it? No. It was our policies. One of these 600 is gonna blow himself up in a few months and guess who will be responsible? Islam. Not the people that brought them here.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 21:48
Part of the problem, here and more especially in America, detraveller, is that wars are always somewhere else 'Over There'.
It's why we understand nothing of the horrors all over the world....
East Timor, Rwanda, Cambodia, The old Yugoslavia, Yemen, even Ukraine.

Moisok. Hope this helps what?
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 21:50

Aug 17, 2017 -- 3:46PM, moisok wrote:


It is their duty to take over.  That is what a good muslim believeshope this helps


And they fulfill their duty by jumping into the sea so that the Europeans will come and take them to their homes? That sounds like the Europeans at fault to me, not Islam. You just can't see past your hatred for islam which may be very justified but isn't remotely the major cause of Europe's problems today. You just aren't willing to see past that.

By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 21:53
I know youve spent time with the muslims and you're convinced how bad they are. Ive spent time with the govt receiving refugees and i can tell you our authorities are worse. You just aren't willing to accept that because you only believe what you have seen and experienced.
By:
aasbff
When: 17 Aug 17 21:54
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

...

Just a few lovely passages written in The Quran.
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 21:56

Aug 17, 2017 -- 3:54PM, aasbff wrote:


Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."...Just a few lovely passages written in The Quran.


Which one of these verses forced the Spanish to rescue 600 migrants inside 24 hours?

By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 21:57
You see it is no good blaming Saudi , it is no good blaming Britains arms deal with Saudi as studyform does.
Saudi has to be able to defend itself, if it can't what do you think will replace it , something worse?

I don't care what is happening in Saudi, what they teach . I blame the people in Britain , Europe who are planting these bombs and murdering , and I blame the British and European countries for allowing them into Britain and Europe,
It is no good blaming the Saudi government if we are stupid enough to do that.

It's easy for studyform and other leftists to blame Saudi , to blame the arms deal.
The blame should be put to the British and European governments.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 21:57
We (the west's governments) have been selling arms to what are now war-torn countries for years.
They then use the arms, people are made homeless and into refugees and orphans, not all of whom are terrorists.
Perhaps if we stopped selling them arms there would be fewer wars and fewer refugees?

aasbff - why are you so familiar with those passages? Are you some sort of Muslim scholar, or have they been specially picked for you to pass on?
I know nothing of being a Muslim, but I would guess that, like Christianity and the 10 commandments, not everyone is all that strict with it.
Or are they? I don't know.
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 22:00
Of course all muslims are terrorists. They just jump into the sea and terrorise the Europeans into bringing them here and putting them on benefits. There must be a verse for that in Koran as well, maybe aasbff can help us dig that one out?
By:
moisok
When: 17 Aug 17 22:00
the quran is their instruction book  - you really need to understand that

ultimately it is allah's will

what matters if some kuffar die?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 22:03
lfc - you are an idiot, you show no sign of understanding anything that's written and even less of what's happening.
What's with the leftists crap?
The Saudis fund terrorism - They have the oil and the money from it. They aren't using the arms to defend to defend themselves, they pass them on, to Yemen, to terrorist groups.
Saudi Arabia is the MOST strictly religious of all the Muslim countries. They want the faith spread more than anyone else.
They are Wahhabis..... Look up Wahhabi.... learn something.
That's why they get SOME of the blame. Most 99% of the blame still sits with the actual terrorists though.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 22:05
Studyform Saudi has to be able to defend itself, Di you think it might be invaded by Iran. Or some more radical and anti western Muslim state replace it
If it has to defend itself and if it buys those arms and aircraft from Britain so much the better.
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Aug 17 22:06

Aug 17, 2017 -- 4:05PM, lfc1971 wrote:


Studyform Saudi has to be able to defend itself, Di you think it might be invaded by Iran. Or some more radical and anti western Muslim state replace itIf it has to defend itself and if it buys those arms and aircraft from Britain so much the better.


ffs you just said in your last post that what Saudi does in their own country is none of our business.

By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 22:06
So if you lot really want to blame any one group - you need to blame wahhabism.
They even want to kill other Muslims.
They are against everyone who isn't a Wahhabi.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Aug 17 22:06
Studyform how do you suppose Saudi can spread their faith if they are not allowed into Britain?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 22:07
ffs, you just don't get it do you?

There ISN'T a more radical state than Saudi Arabia.
They don't come here - apart from to buy up all the most expensive property.
By:
aasbff
When: 17 Aug 17 22:07
OF COURSE NOT ALL MUSLIMS are going to go on a rampage but THE QURAN is where these terrorists get their ideas from. They think they are doing what Allah wants them to do.

How many Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs and Christians are carrying out terrorist attacks in Europe?
By:
Just Checking
When: 17 Aug 17 22:08
Sensible people: "When in a hole, stop digging"
European politicians: "When a minority of demographic keep killing us, keep radically expanding that demographic and call sensible people racist"
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Aug 17 22:08
And that's happened has it, JC?
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