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Injera
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Labour shadow minister Sarah Champion has quit the party's front bench after criticism over a newspaper article she wrote about grooming gangs.

The Rotherham MP wrote in The Sun that "Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls".

She has now apologised for her "extremely poor choice of words" and quit as shadow equalities minister.

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Will noone stand their ground on this issue??
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Report saddo • August 16, 2017 5:31 PM BST
Absolutely not.
Report alun2005 • August 16, 2017 5:59 PM BST
Which of her chosen words were 'extremely poor' ?
Report saddo • August 16, 2017 6:02 PM BST
I would think Pakistani probably did it. Most of em are Pakistani, but of course it's nowt to do with Pakistanis so she's walked the plank.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • August 16, 2017 6:05 PM BST
Would be nice to know which words she felt were wrong ?
Report Injera • August 16, 2017 6:06 PM BST
Which of her chosen words were 'extremely poor' ?

The ones that were true..
Report alun2005 • August 16, 2017 6:07 PM BST
I thought she'd maybe walked because she's obviously misjudged the scale of the crisis. She inexplicably neglected to include the word 'monumental' between the words "a" and "problem".

She also seems to have forgotten that the demographic concerned is now Labour's core voter group.
Report Injera • August 16, 2017 6:09 PM BST
Agreed. She's also been leant on by the Apologists.
Report InsiderTrader • August 16, 2017 6:22 PM BST
Seriously? This is unbelievable.
Report Dr Crippen • August 16, 2017 6:22 PM BST
Absolutely alun2005.

Another turning point in British left-wing politics, where a politician has to resign over speaking the truth about a certain group of people.
Report Just Checking • August 16, 2017 6:27 PM BST
The funny cartoon someone posted the other day about a gameshow where "you were correct but jemima was offended so she gets the point" was so accurate...

I was watching newsnight last night about how 3 groups of people were killing each other yet the blame seemed to not be on the people attacking each other and their personal responsibility for their own actions, it was .. Britain's fault.

In all this "partition" coverage something has stood out, not sure you've noticed. On the map you'll see an East Pakistan, that doesn't exist anymore, you may have wondered about that. When at the turn of the 70s it tried to break away, it had a genocide perperated on it SadSadSadSad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide
Absolutely shocking stuff to read. How many people have even heard of that? The upper figure of those killed is THREE MILLION! SadSadSadSad

It's toally airburshed out of history, and I'm sure won't be brought up by the BBC as they can't blame us for it, this was 25 years after we'd left the area. Actually they probably could, Kirsty Wark could get a carefully gender selected panel of left wing academics on to say that was our fault as well, and she'd grin and nod furiously as they did so.
Report paulypaul • August 16, 2017 6:36 PM BST
I give up with this country...people need to grow up.
Report Ramruma • August 16, 2017 6:40 PM BST
Writing in The Sun was probably half the problem.
Report InsiderTrader • August 16, 2017 6:40 PM BST
Everything is lining up for SJWs now.

They are fighting back after Brexit and Trump last year.

Slowly chipping away and slowly censoring everyone and everything.
Report Dr Crippen • August 16, 2017 6:43 PM BST
What are the lefty liberals up to getting into bed with these types, where will it all end?

It's happening all over Europe, what's the big plan?

What have they got in store for us?

I don't believe this isn't part of some big plot, but for what end and who is behind it?
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Report Injera • August 16, 2017 8:19 PM BST
Good stuff Gin!

Dr C - you ask 'what have they got in store for us'?

White genocide.

'Genocide' was described by Raphael Lemkin as: 'The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups…. '
Report lybertyne • August 16, 2017 8:20 PM BST
It is because certain people are worried about offending foreigners that our own girls are being abused like they have been.  Those who say Sarah Champion is "racist" are unwittingly condoning the abuse.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • August 16, 2017 10:04 PM BST
Funny how the chit chat libards have stayed away from this fred, where is breedingmad when this time  you need a fred ruined Crazy
Report mad mad moon • August 16, 2017 10:24 PM BST
John Second -Place, Secretary General of an animal rights group has also resigned today after stating that
"Bears **** in the woods"
He has apologized to any bears who may have been offended.
Report THEMONEYSHOT • August 16, 2017 10:31 PM BST
Using that disgusting rag The Sun was not a wise choice (although they were probably one of the few to run with it).

Nevertheless this Country is proper broken Sad
Report portmanpark • August 16, 2017 10:38 PM BST
When I read the headline I thought she must have said something really dreadful.I read it .She didn't.
Report saddo • August 16, 2017 10:41 PM BST
To say anything regarding certain cultures is strictly verboten nowadays.
Report alun2005 • August 17, 2017 12:28 AM BST
Jeremy Corbyn should NOT have accepted her resignation.

He should have applauded Champion for her wholly accurate comments, publicly approved them, and told her to repeat those comments for longer and louder. He should have then instructed the rest of the Shadow Cabinet to do the same. Instead Labour preferred to surrender to the Religion of Peace in a craven attempt to maintain their core vote group.

One thing is sadly crystal clear from Wednesday's developments. Anyone who has a white sexually-underaged daughter in Britain can no longer expect Labour to protect her from the Rape Gangs. On all the evidence, Labour seem to prefer to protect the guilty men from long-overdue criticism by Labour MPs.
Report casemoney • August 17, 2017 12:44 AM BST
The Country is Finnish ,when u have the National broadcaster Who's Latest Interest is making people Know they are gay at the youngest possible Age ,you have to really ask what is Going on ..

The next move will be getting young children to be aware of Various Religions ,I do not need to say which one they will be
Champion ,I'm not Joking Religious awareness for Primary Kids will soon be getting Punted by them .

And we are sponsor all this ...
Report casemoney • August 17, 2017 12:45 AM BST
SPONSORING Laugh
Report alun2005 • August 17, 2017 12:57 AM BST
Has the BBC realised yet though that you can't support the 'Inalienable Right To Be Gay' and simultaneously embrace the ideology that throws the gay people off tall buildings.

Can't wait to see how the BBC manages that Doublethink.
Report Sica Dan • August 17, 2017 1:15 AM BST
Easy!, the roof throwers are following a perverted branch of Islam.
Report twizzle22 • August 17, 2017 8:40 AM BST
This story SHOULD have been the lead story on the BBC website.I'm sure its there somewhere but I'll be dammed if i can find it.A level results far more important apparently.
Report InsiderTrader • August 17, 2017 9:16 AM BST
Its gone from the BBC front page.

Mr Corbyn said he accepted Ms Champion's resignation, saying his party would not "blame any particular group or demonise any particular group [and] the issue is one of safety of individuals."
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 10:41 AM BST
Funny no outcry when CATHOLIC priests were bought to book Mischief
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 10:42 AM BST
Walks like a duck, talks like a duck it's a fxxking................
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 10:44 AM BST
I despair of this fxxking country AngryAngryAngry
Report Dr Crippen • August 17, 2017 12:32 PM BST
There's something going on that we don't completely understand.

Like Powell said in 1963,  ''It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.''

Over the top then? - maybe.

Over the top now? - I don't think so.
Report Gin • August 17, 2017 1:12 PM BST
Another day.......................

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/concerns-been-raised-eight-teenage-10991804.amp

Concerns have been raised that eight teenage girls in Wishaw are being sexually groomed by a gang of Asian men.

The Wishaw Press has been told a group of men from Glasgow have targeted the girls - some whom are under the age of sexual consent - and have threatened them with violence if they tell anyone about the seedy goings-on.

Anyone worried about girls being sexually groomed are urged to contact the police and tell them about concerns.

Residents have said the predators are contacting the youngsters through social media and then meeting up with them at a bridge between Dimsdale and Pather and then taking them in a car to sexually abuse them at a house in the Govan area of Glasgow.

It’s understood they are supplying them with gifts and booze and then taking advantage of them before dropping them back off in Wishaw.

A source told the Wishaw Press the girls have been “brainwashed” into thinking the men are their boyfriends.

Families are too frightened to speak out in fear of reprisals after being threatened if they inform authorities what is going on.

Now questions are being raised whether parents do know where their daughters are going at the weekends, where they are staying and who they are with.


A 12-man Asian grooming gang in Rochdale, England, were jailed for over 140 years in total for abusing a 13-year-old girl in Keighley last year.

The gang preyed on teenage girls, plying them with drink and drugs before abusing them.

The source said abuse is “escalating” and urgent action is needed.

There have been calls for immediate action to be taken to stop young girls being sexually abused by the Asian gang.

One source told the Wishaw Press: “The police and social work have been informed about this.

“It is something similar to what happened in Rochdale and it has to be stopped.

“There needs to be a full investigation into this.

“The girls are told there will be repercussions if they tell anyone.

“They have been brainwashed and say that the men are their boyfriends.

“Most of the girls are from Wishaw but there are some from elsewhere.

“We don’t know exactly how many are involved. But there could be about eight from Wishaw.

“They are meeting at a bridge between Dimsdale and Pather.

“You don’t expect something like this to be happening here.

“It is escalating.”

And the source said parents should know exactly what their children are doing, who they are with and where they are going.

The source added: “Children are walking about with rucksacks at the weekend.

“Do the parents know where their children are going and who they are with?

“Are their children receiving expensive gifts like clothes or phones. Is there anything unusual?

“There is a lot of under-age drinking taking place.

“A 13-year-old girl was found drunk and slumped in the street.”

Wishaw councillor Fiona Fotheringham said: “Any reports of sexual grooming in the area is concerning. I have spoken to social work and the police and neither partners have had any reports and are unaware of any issues of this nature.

“I would urge anyone to immediately report any concerns to the police for investigation.”

Both the police and North Lanarkshire Council said they were unaware of such incidents and not involved in any investigation into allegations of sexual grooming in the Wishaw area.
Report salmon spray • August 17, 2017 2:37 PM BST
I see there is distress that there are no "libtards" on the thread. I hope I can count as one. I support Ms Champion's original remarks and am annoyed she has been pushed.
There clearly is an issue with Pakistani gangs grooming young white girls though how much it has to do with Islam and how much it has to do with tribal customs that pre-date Islam is a moot point.
It is also true that not all male child abusers are Asian or Muslim and not all Pakistani men are involved in these sort of crimes.
Report saddo • August 17, 2017 2:48 PM BST
Hugely disproportionate amount of them per capita though. Needs addressing, not reluctantly tolerating. Get after em.
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 3:10 PM BST
Walks like a duck, talks like a duck it's a fxxking................

- ufcdan hits the bullseye.

When I first heard Champion's remarks I was pleasantly surprised. They were out of keeping with the apologist narrative.

Her resignation over said remarks comes as no surprise. She's not one of us after all. She's part of the problem.

Gutless.
Report Foinavon • August 17, 2017 3:16 PM BST
Yes, she should not have resigned. If they wanted her to go, she should have let them sack her to make it plain what is going on.
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 3:29 PM BST
I guess we'll never know the pressure that comes upon an MP from above.
Report broadsword • August 17, 2017 3:53 PM BST
peter whittle on twitter: 

Her apology almost as depressing as the the resignation itself. The truth is no longer sayable. #1984
Report InsiderTrader • August 17, 2017 4:06 PM BST
Her trying to back track on the comments and blame the Sun newspaper was pathetic.

She was caught out when the emails were produced.

The original comments were correct and she should have proudly stood by them.

This sets us back several years in this process.

How many more stadiums have to be filled with victims before it is addressed.

We cannot give people a pass on this.

Its ruins the victims life forever.

They will struggle to ever have a good relationship for the rest of their lives because of what these people have done to them.

For a start it should be illegal for older men to to take kids into their homes and give them drugs and alcohol. I mean a 10 year jail sentence. None of this the police turning up and arresting a 14 year old for being drunk or leaving them in the house with groups of adult men.
Report saddo • August 17, 2017 4:29 PM BST
My guess is she was told 'resign and come back, or get sacked and you're out for good.' Self interest will always out with politicians, it's ingrained.
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 4:54 PM BST
So angry on two fronts firstly someone being vilified for saying how it is and raising concerns (which is her job) being invited to resign her position and secondly her trying to distance herself from her true full article Angry
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:07 PM BST
Stalin used to say "Capitalists will sell you the rope with which to hang them by" Our politicians and media are burying their heads regarding this and other issues from this section of the community, as was pointed out white people were included in her article but no condemnation whatsoever. Yet she has had to resign for singling out British born Pakistan men. Of course like white men not all Pakistani's are involved in this and like us are appalled by the actions of some in their community. However I see very little evidence of Pakistani's speaking out against it or their general treatment of women. i wonder if those recently imprisoned if there is a large Muslim presence in said jail end up in the nounces wing or they get to walk about in general prison population?
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:08 PM BST
Of course I distance myself from comments made at 17.07 Mischief
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:25 PM BST
If I lived in Pakistan and white British gangs were targeting local girls I would be embarrassed and appalled if politicians DID NOT name us as being a problem.

I would accept the criticism, knowing that unless the problem is named, a solution can't be achieved.

The British Pakistani community here should speak out, accept the critique and resolve to address the problem within a minority of their group.
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:34 PM BST
Injera if you lived in Pakistan and white gangs were raping Pakistani girls, whether you were involved or not I wouldn't fancy your chances Plain
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:36 PM BST
And that's what makes this country a great place to live, our tolerance but it really is getting tested. Sad day when you can't call things for what they are Angry
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:37 PM BST
And I would accept the backlash and most probably leave!
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:40 PM BST
Yeah but West Ham East London.............home from home LaughLaughLaugh
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:41 PM BST
Don't start...it's a foreign country mate. Sad
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:41 PM BST
Don't think though Injera you'd get out Sad
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:42 PM BST
I know Pakistan is East London is in England Shocked
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:43 PM BST
Cest la vie Rodney Silly
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:43 PM BST
Halal jellied Ells Love
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:44 PM BST
See your fellas are organising another march in October
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:44 PM BST
Top 4 still posible Silly
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:45 PM BST
I thought Spuds were behind the last one, but yeah, we were involved. NO media coverage last time Sad
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:45 PM BST
Fxxk off LaughLaughLaughLaughWink
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:46 PM BST
Mind you you could finish above Chelsea CryCryCry
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:47 PM BST
Think our lads organised it, I couldn't make it but will go in October
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:47 PM BST
I did mean YOU top 4!

We'll be lucky to stay up. Bilic hasn't got a scooby.

64 goals conceded last season...
Report Injera • August 17, 2017 5:48 PM BST
I'll see you there.
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:48 PM BST
I refer to my earlier answer Sad think there's a lot of discord at our gaff
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 5:49 PM BST
Sounds good mate
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 9:11 PM BST
Dyed in the wool Tory. Tim Loughton see if you ever get my fxxking vote ever again, pathetic C..... Angry
Report ufcdan • August 17, 2017 9:24 PM BST
Mischief may of jumped the gun, conflicting posts but I will find out tomorrow if Tim Loughton is one the 107 mp's who put his name to the letter against Sara Champion, if he has he will have the pleasure of meeting me Saturday at one of his street surgeries Devil
Report ufcdan • August 18, 2017 6:38 PM BST
Seen online the coont has signed, will be seeing him tomorrow Angry
Report Foinavon • August 18, 2017 7:22 PM BST
Loughton was also a strong critic of Gove's term as Education Secretary.
He's a Liberal masquerading as a Tory.
Report ufcdan • August 18, 2017 7:56 PM BST
Well he'll hear face to face tomorrow from me  that he'll never get my vote again Angry
Report ufcdan • August 20, 2017 9:25 AM BST
Whoops got the wrong end of the stick. Saw Tim Loughton yesterday, he told me he agreed with Sarah Champion's article 100% and that he had written a similar report a few years ago, he went on to say that Jack Straw had had similar problems when raising the issue. I asked him if he thought it was wise to put his name to a letter written by Naz Shah as she in the past had been found to be guilty of anti semitism. He told she had repented and was involved with better relations with the Jewish community and as for the letter it was written against Kavanagh's article  where he used the term Muslim problem which was a bit too close to Jewish problem ! I did say that there is a problem though and it needed to be addressed. Politicians continual burying  off heads in the sand was the reason the likes of Tommy Robison were coming to the forefront . We talked about a few other issues and then our admiration for Margaret Thatcher, I'm told him that she imo was a great Prime Minster and that I considered it a privilege to be living in a country lead by her Love I did add however that she wouldn't of liked me as I was at the time a football hoolighan's Laugh which lead me on to say that I couldn't understand why the police today tip toe around certain communities when they certainly didn't with us football lads Mischief
Report lfc1971 • August 20, 2017 9:36 AM BST
he`s pulled the wool over your eyes dan,  he will be laughing to himself, that's another one I`ve got as you leave.
Report lfc1971 • August 20, 2017 9:39 AM BST
explain to me why he signed the letter again?
Report GoOnThen • August 20, 2017 10:20 AM BST
Sunday morning live on BBC just tip toed around the issue.
Report Foinavon • August 20, 2017 11:23 AM BST
Well done, Dan. If more people questioned their MPs then something might get done.
Report lfc1971 • August 20, 2017 11:27 AM BST
not much point questioning the mp, and then not getting an answer.
what does that solve? I don`t know...it only encourages them.
Report Foinavon • August 20, 2017 11:31 AM BST
It lets them know how we feel. Some, Like G. Brown might want to call their supporters bigots for expressing an opinion but they need the votes.
Report lfc1971 • August 20, 2017 11:36 AM BST
hmmm I might be wrong but from dan`s account it seems the mp will not be taking any notice of anything dan said.
Report Foinavon • August 20, 2017 11:50 AM BST
If enough people say it though, squeaky wheel and all that...
Report Ibrahima Sonko • August 20, 2017 1:02 PM BST
MP's will give a different answer to every person, hope dan was smart enough to record it.
Report ufcdan • August 20, 2017 6:12 PM BST
He did say some things to me that I won't repeat on here not going to stir it for him ! Forgot to say I did tell him I was more successful than him as I'd managed to join the Labour Party to vote for Jeremy. I said I hoped the joke didn't bite me in the ar$e. He said the only reason he was found out was that he told a Gaurdian reporter who he knew would spill the beans LaughLaugh As to him taking any notice of what I had to say who knows but at least I had my say which made me feel better. Anyway b0ll0x to this Chelsea beat Spurs so all is good in my world Cool
Report Ibrahima Sonko • August 22, 2017 9:16 PM BST
This cannot be true, can it ?

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https://tinyurl.com/y7jys9rk
Report Foinavon • August 22, 2017 9:38 PM BST
Of course not, it was a "genuine mistake", wasn't it? Confused
Report ufcdan • September 7, 2017 8:57 PM BST
Well some said it was no good speaking to my MP Tim Loughton, some said well done and more of us should contact them. Anyone watch Prime minister questions yesterday ? Tim Loughton's question CoolCoolCool
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