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It's quite remarkable how left-wingers come on here condemning right-wing groups, when they probably voted for a party that has a dedicated supporter of totalitarian politics in its Shadow Cabinet.
I point to John McDonnell who is a Marxist. Corbyn gave him the job so Corbyn is tarred with the same brush. And you people are worried about a rag-tag bunch of demonstrators who probably don't even know what a real fascism is. After voting to go down the path towards a totalitarian state at the last general election. |
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Listen to what Anna Soubry has to say about John McDonnell and the route that Labour are taking under Corbyn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6BgdaBiUVM |
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Daniel Wessel, a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee, said: “We commend the leaders who stood for American values and resigned from these councils following Trump’s defense of white supremacists in Charlottesville. These councils disbanded because of Trump’s failure to lead and the public pressure that followed ... Trump’s peddling of racist lies has been the final straw that has made the businessman president lose even the support of big business.”
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Crippen, it's quite possible you write the biggest load of rubbish on the forum.
Still, your adherence to the cause is admirable |
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Getting a good hiding again are you STUDYFORM?
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Come on here talking about extremists when you're trying to get a party of extremist elected in the UK.
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I'm not really trying crippen, I'm more sitting, watching TV and having a bet.
Oh, and not believing the Daily Mail. |
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The National Socialist German Workers Party started life as its name suggests as a left wing party. It was only considered to be "of the right" in its opposition to the Bolsheviks.
After it gained power through the democratic system it morphed into a fascist dictatorship. |
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Foinavon, that's actually not true. They just threw the word socialist into their name in order to attract disaffected voters too stupid to spot the difference. They were, are and always will be of the right wing.
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the German nazi party and the Italian fascist party were both left wing.
you have only to read their manifestos to see that. |
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here we have some of the objectives of the first fascist manifesto in 1919:
universal suffrage voting age lowered to 18 voting for woman proportional representation representation in government of newly created national councils abolition of senate, upper house of parliament elected by wealthier citizens formation of national council with experts for labour including professionals and tradesmen 8 hour workday for all workers a minimum wage workers representatives in industry commissions to show same confidence in labour unions as to industry executives or public servants revision of draft law on invalidity insurance reduction of retirement age from 65 to 55 creation of a national militia armaments factories to be nationalised a peaceful but competitive foreign policy a strong progressive tax on capital advocating a partial expropriation of concentrated wealth seizure of all possessions of religious congregations abolition of bishoprics which constitute enormous liability on the nation and the poor revision of all military contracts and seizure of 85% profits therein this was the very first fascist manifesto. |
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The alt-left like to shut down freedom of speech.
Notice their leaders never ever speak to the cameras. This is because their is no defence of their sick violence. This weekend their threat of violence means protests against Google censorship have been cancelled. |
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I have always noticed that they are very loud and always shout down the opposition. Being from the left I disassociate myself from these so called 'left wing ' or alt left groups. Same as remainers. They seem to embrace democracy BUT ONLY IF THEY WIN. Look at the reaction to trump winning and the brexit result reaction.
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The alt left apart from being aggressive, violent and very very loud are backers of the refugee swarm and open borders that has led to the chaos and terrorism we now experience more and more of. You now have larger and larger ghettoes for the muslim terrorists to hide in and be helped and protected. That is what your alt left is all about. And they brook no opposition.
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The National Socialist German Workers Party started life as its name suggests as a left wing party.
No, no, no, that must be denied, even if it involves some dreamt up bullsh!t (They just threw the word socialist into their name in order to attract disaffected voters) Is there an Alt-Left? of course there is but you wont get the sandals&candles mob to ever acknowledge it, just doesn't sit well with the image they have of themselves, all those death/violence threats towards Farage and his family? they came from the right, those thousands on anti capitalist rallys lobbing bricks and trashing Town centres? they vote Tory. There's some good examples on here of how the lefties like to play it, start a ranting post with alt-right/Nazis/fascist's and then, once you get into your stride, you drop the alt and just use right, which is what they meant all along. |
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That 1919 fascist manifesto isn't from Germany is it lfc ? Looks more like Mussolini to me and there is no dispute that he started as a syndaclist.
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 syndicalist. |
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Studyform on this thread states that he very much supports NO violence at all
Including violent language , threats of violence, and carrying 'unnecessary' weaponary ( notice how he slips in unnecessary) Yet on the confederate statue rally he was asked does he think that leftists who had been quilty of violence should be taken to court and prosecuted and jailed he refused to say they should, in fact he condoned them and their violence . How does studyform square this contradiction , I don't know. He's a leftist. |
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There is no such thing as the "alt-left". That was just mixed up words coming out of the orange clown's mouth without much consideration by his brain. Similar types have repeated the phrase.
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Very good , now studyform is saying that the first fascist party in Italy, and what is the first fascist manifesto is not really the fascist party , or a fascist manifesto ?
Then again, of course party manifestos are not always to be believed, perhaps we could look at the communists manifesto in Russia and how that turned out Then again , studyform likes to gloss over the millions if lives lost there. and the starvation, and the forced labour, and the prison camps, and the torture and repression Maybe he thinks they were BOLSHEVIKS. |
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and no such thing as the alt right just one of these trending 'challenging' wurds wot use use
what I do know is that democratic election results are opposed violently by those who lose and they want their own way, trying to get it using violence |
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studyform and salmon spray , getting them mixed up now
 both leftists, are the left capable of logical thought? they might be, anythings possible I read it somewhere. |
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you must not come to the hard conclusion that every leftist in the world is hard, and false, and wicked.
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that would only make you sad.
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Apparently there is, Dave ... No one that I know who is associated with the AltLeft (which by the way has existed for years) would ever support or engage in violence.
https://altleft.com/ |
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Please, lfc.
Don't think about me when you go to bed. will you? The thought of me being that much in your thoughts would be very upsetting. Given your style and content of posting, you aren't one to question someone else's logical thoughts. Saddest of all is that (I assume) you have the same right to vote as the rest of us. The others were right, your existence on here is as a weird kind of fisher. A unique style, I grant you, but a fisher nonetheless. Here's a question for you. Is a 'leftist' someone who doesn't happen to agree with far right policy? |
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but you are unable to argue against the evidence study
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I'm not playing.
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Studyform,
Do you denounce all political violence? |
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but the bbc and sky are so biased towards the eu, islam, not reporting terrorism and its links, against corbyn, trump, farage they have a long record of it
I am a socialist and long time member of the Labour party but I can see the horrendous imbalance |
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The left have murdered more than the right?
STUDYFORM. I don't know how you can ever go out in public being this stupid Crippen. Some of statements are just made up rubbish. Yet I went on to prove my point citing the murders committed in communist Russia and communist China. Does STUDYFORM ever think before he starts slagging people off? If you go through his posts, it's clear that he's an utter dunce. |
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The left just cannot denounce political violence in all its forms.
They just cannot do it. Why? |
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To be fair to Corbyn he generally is capable of denouncing violence on all sides unless it is right-wing violence then only one side will do.
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Crippen - you have proved nothing - to anyone, ever.
Duncewise, I'm not fit to push down the Velcro on your shoes. I.T. I'm not 'The Left'. Apparently the Nazis and Fascists are. Ask them. |
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Studyform,
Why is it so hard for you to say: 'I do not give the green light to any political violence.' ???? |
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Hitler said he was going to nationalise the banks before he came to power but never did.
The difference between The Nazis and the communists was that the Nazis put people in charge of industry and controlled them, instead of the communist model of controlling industry themselves. Two totalitarian states in the grip of dictators. |
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I do not understand this idea that violence is ok as long as it is against a Nazi according to the left.
For, instance, if an Islamist hate preacher said lots of horrible things and made verbal threats I would still say it is not acceptable to punch him in the face. It would be a bad thing to do. |
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unable to answer and resorts to the personal insult
typical avoidance oh and how about hitler etc etc - get the drift |
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I don't like ANY violence, I.T.
Political eapecially, but also and not limited too, drunks outside pubs, football violence, fights in playgrounds, wars, wife-beating filth. I don't own a green light, If I did I wouldn't give it. I have now spent (wasted 4 days) on here avoiding nothing, answering and justifying stuff to several unreasonable people and some idiots. You don't read anything properly and the only answers to anything are the ones already in your heads. |