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i_agree_with_nick
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eg a property is rented out for £6000 during a tax year.

Sofa, bed and other furniture is purchased at start of tenancy for £2000.

Net taxable rental income = £4,000  (ignoring other expenses for simplicity).


The owner decides to move in to the property at start of year 2 and utilise the existing furniture. Does he lose any of the tax relief claimed in the previous year?
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Report mini me • August 7, 2017 12:22 PM BST
No
Report i_agree_with_nick • August 7, 2017 12:22 PM BST
I guess the correct way to do it would be to apportion the costs over the expected life of the furniture. Eg you could claim only £200 of expenses (furniture expected to last for 10 years) in any single year.

Do HMRC expect this level of detail from small landlords?
Report i_agree_with_nick • August 7, 2017 12:56 PM BST
Posted before I saw your reply, MM.

I'll have to do some research into this. Seems like a bit of a loophole to me.

Maybe you can't charge the full cost of furniture to expenses in the first place. If you can, in a scenario like the one in my OP, you're effectively getting a discount on your furniture at your marginal tax rate.
Report Jack Hacksaw • August 7, 2017 1:38 PM BST
They would not be allowed as they would be capital expenditure.

Can be included in cost of acquisition for CGT purposes.
Report i_agree_with_nick • August 7, 2017 1:49 PM BST
JH - like this:

Purchase price of property: £150k
Purchase price of furniture: £2k

Sale of property: £162k
Less purchase price of propert and furniture £152k

Taxable CGT amount = £10k  (ignoring allowances etc)


So you could still claim the entire £2k even if you moved into the property after one year?

What if you moved out of your other home into the rented property and sold the former six months later. Which property would attract CGT?
Report bix • August 7, 2017 1:54 PM BST
The "wear and tear" allowance changed in April 2016 so prior to that date you could claim 10% of cost of furniture if the property was let fully furnished.
Report lfc1971 • August 7, 2017 1:54 PM BST
if you sell a property no one checks if it has been let.
Report i_agree_with_nick • August 7, 2017 2:13 PM BST
LFC - CGT is payable on any gains made on the sale of a property other than your primary residence (I think)
Report i_agree_with_nick • August 14, 2017 12:58 PM BST
Around half of the 27,000 landlords in Newham are not declaring their rental income. Shocked

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/13/half-of-landlords-in-one-london-borough-fail-to-declare-rental-income
Report The Leopard • August 14, 2017 1:23 PM BST
HMRC is kaput !

Greece all over again !
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