Venezuela : Civil War imminent

I was just going to turn me cooker off

Surprised America hasn't invaded yet

Another stunning advert for socialism, Corbynistas rejoice! Momentum should send over a fact finding mission to see how we can make this wondeful situation happen here.

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing to levy new sanctions on Venezuela, U.S. officials said Monday, in response to a weekend election that gives the South American country’s ruling party virtually unlimited powers.

The officials said the new sanctions could be imposed as early as Monday and will likely target Venezuela’s oil sector, including possibly its state-owned petroleum company. One official said an announcement was imminent. The officials were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The administration imposed sanctions on more than a dozen senior current and former Venezuelan officials last week, warning the socialist government that new penalties would come if President Nicolas Maduro went ahead with Sunday’s election for a constituent assembly.

The assembly will draw up a new constitution that many believe is aimed only at securing Maduro’s increasingly authoritarian rule. On Monday, Venezuela’s government said the election had given it a popular mandate to dramatically recast the political system, despite widespread claims of low voter turnout.

The Trump administration was quick to denounce the vote.

“Maduro’s sham election is another step toward dictatorship,” Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said on Twitter. “We won’t accept an illegit govt. The Venezuelan ppl & democracy will prevail.”

State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the new assembly “is designed to replace the legitimately elected National Assembly and undermine the Venezuelan people’s right to self-determination.”

“The United States stands by the people of Venezuela, and their constitutional representatives, in their quest to restore their country to a full and prosperous democracy,” Nauert said in a statement. “We will continue to take strong and swift actions against the architects of authoritarianism in Venezuela, including those who participate in the National Constituent Assembly as a result of (Sunday’s) flawed election.”

Was watching a clip earlier of Corbyn singing the praises of Venezuela.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIQAKpaR20

^ Yeah , think the British army's first job under PM Corbyn might be propping up Maduro !

Corbyn on the phone to Maduro here in this other link . Surprised more is not being made of this . Don't speak Spanish so wondering if it might be a spoof!


http://www.venezuelasolidarity.co.uk/video-president-nicolas-maduro-pays-tribute-to-tony-benn-in-conversation-with-jeremy-corbyn-mp/

In this moving video, Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro talks with British MP Jeremy Corbyn about Tony Benn & his life’s struggle for peace & socialism.
In particular Nicolas Maduro asked Jeremy to pass on “from the revolutionary Government of Venezuela.. Our permanent recognition of this great fighter & warrior for the ideas of socialism,” asking him to “please pass on to the entire trade union & labour movement [in Britain] that another world is possible, if we are capable of defending the ideas of peace & life, just as Tony Benn & Hugo Chavez did.”

The billionaires want Venezuela back in their portfolio.
They are freezing them out. starve them then move in.
they'll applaud any madman now that can provide food on the plate.
For a country with 'fertile land' it's sad they cannot grow food
to feed the people.

We only got to the 2nd paragraph to find out the real reason...first line......oil

Heaven forbid a country that votes for something that's not in the banks or Americas best interest

Long live democracy lol

thats the problem, they want elections and democracy, not corruption and violence.

Oh dear lfc, you really re blinkered

oh dear, i don`t expect the leftists are going to learn anytime soon.

Maduro will most likely end up in Cuba, if he`s lucky.

they don't just have the most oil reserves in the world they have it by some distance...300 billion barrels.

What will the world do when oil runs out....in a few hundred years?

They'll be laughing that we ever used the stuff in a few hundred years tbf.

They need to hurry up and get a working nuclear fusion unit up and running. Some way to go with that though I suspect. Another 50 years maybe? They've still got a long way to go yet to stabilise a fusion reaction long enough for it to be able to produce any useful power.

Jul 31, 2017 -- 9:27PM, saddo wrote:

They'll be laughing that we ever used the stuff in a few hundred years tbf.

Yeah .  'the stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones'

i thought the scientists know 95 percent of everything there was to know? I'm told Dawkins said this?

if that was the case, they should have fusion sorted out.

The theory is easy - it's the physical practicality of making a working operational unit that's very difficult to achieve. They're getting there, but still sadly a long way to go it looks like.

Free power all around us, a battery technology leap is all we need for now.

We will bleed the earth dry eventually of it's natural resources, then the world really is finished. Worst thing ever to happen to earth is human evolution.

Venezuela has huge oil reserves but it's been run as a socialist state so is of course a basket case. Once the oil price dropped, it was ruined as it was still giving out free stuff it couldn't afford and as it was totally incompetently run with all eggs in one basket, it has virtually nothing else as an economy to fund itself. To blame america or some mad oil conspiracies is just the tragically low intellectual level we expect of the left. But we're used to that.

Today, after their **** and boycotted referendum, I see that their "security forces" have just disappeared the leaders of the opposition, raiding their homes, as it spirals into being yet another failed state socialist dictatorship. And still they hard left and corbynites will defend it, and blame the US, as they blame the US for everything, and cry that socialism is the solution...

I'm guessing BBC and channel 4 will ignore this of course. If trump tweets something silly about someone, they spend 10 minutes tearing him a new one. If a leftist wannabe dictator (they like lefties, John Snow LOVES the hard left) rounds up his political opponents, that's hardly worth covering is it.

jc are you ever not angry?

There's a lot to be angry about imo.

The chickens of Socialism coming home to roost. How amusing.

what about Britain ? 1000's of food banks electric up 12%

get real howard

I'd rather live in a country run the way Britain is, able to offer a couple of thousand food banks, than in a country run the way Venezuela is, able to offer zero food banks.

zero food
zero banks

that's how howard likes it

whilst aljazeera covered this in detail  sky were debating breast feeding in public and the new male editor of vogue

So far on BBC news in the nightly anti-Trump slot from their Trump hater in Washington, we've had two goes at Trump because of his tweets (1.01 landed), 3 or 4 clips (and remember this is supposed to be the main serious news) from american comedians taking the piddle out of Trump, for what reason I do not know other than they can take the piddle out of trump. El Presidente getting his boys to whisk off the leaders of his opposition parties in the middle of the night? Not a whisper.

Our media are even far more interested in the detail of transgender politics in the military of another country, just because they can use it beat their favourite punchbag Trump, than the state of democracy and the demise of a country with the world's biggest known oil reserves, run by a socialist bus driver****-dictator.

C4 news may cover it I suppose, if they can put some diversity/gender equality angle on it and that r.s. Snowflake can say their problems are because they need more socialism, and of course: because of Trump.

Yeah MSM just puppets and the people are stupid and /or out of their heads. Amazing scenes worldwide when interest rates rise.  The UK has had a bad summer so the prisons haven't exploded yet....

Venezuala is the prototype to see how the population reacts to
artificial inflation.
inflation doesn't exist - there is plenty of food worldwide.
it's a manipulation by banks - draw away all the money to the
top tenth of one percent of the population.
they print money, money does not reflect actual assets.
this has been done before to Germany and other nations in the past.
It's manipulation - social engineering.
the banks are in control.

if the cash machines here stop putting out - we are a few weeks from
the same thing.
your cash belongs to the banks. it's all illusions.

Or in your case, delusions.

you have paper in your pocket.
it has only a symbolic value.

it used to be tied to gold

it's all illusions, Quantitative easing proves it's worthless.
it's government forgery, sanctioned.
they print money and money drops in value.
inflation goes up.

since 2008 - they've been printing all day long.

zorro good posts. You will know the news in the last few days the EU are just putting the finishing touches to measures regarding  limited or zero cash withdrawals for up to several weeks but could be longer ! Europeans not going to be happy finding out they are worth NOTHING  after working for decades.

they want it all digital by 2020. That completes total control of money.
the banks of American and Britain started all this money control way back
with the East India Company dissolving. the FED reserve was privately owned by
ex east india individuals - Rothschild had control of the bank of England.
Control through paper money started and it was only a matter of time before
they unhinged it from Gold production. no longer linked to the natural gold they would draw from the ground which kept pace with population growth.
So you can't go to the bank and ask for a pound of Gold for your pound.
That shows you how much the devaluing of the pound is at?

they control the money, if you step outside what they want, your account goes dead(digital cash) you don't eat. complete control imposed from above.

the future is wonderful in a digital world. you are safe from crooks in the streets.
they cannot steal anymore? no tax dodgers, it's all transparent, no bank robberies, no more cash crime. but you do as we say. or you are persona non grata.

It won't be smooth. Local "money " will be created. Illegal of course. But that doesn't stop ANYTHING happening.

pass a law - till the crisis passes - all land must grow food if possible.

the Saudis and yanks lowered the price of oil to fook em up

If they'd doubled the price of oil, the Venezuelan people would be suffering just as much

It doesn't matter what the price of oil is on the open market. If your government is committed to destroying the open market, the only outcomes are hunger or death. From Russia to Cambodia, it happens every single bloody time.

How will this end ? There are actually people supporting this guy in Venezuela.

Hard to say. It's now 85 years since 7 to 10 million Ukrainians starved to death in one year under Russian communism, and they've still got Russian troops shelling them every day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

But, as you say, the Venezuelan dictator still has the wholehearted support of Corbyn and, presumably, people who voted for Corbyn.

Caracas Chronicles has an interesting article on Caracas airport. It used to have 24 international airlines flying in, now it's just 8. And it's not because a couple of subway sandwiches effectively cost you £70 at the airport because you've got to buy a certain amount of currency at the fixed rate. It's because of the fear of crime. Even Delta ( iirc ) has rearranged its schedules so that crews and planes stay overnight in Aruba on the Houston-Caracas route as they've got to protect their staff from the risk of mugging.

Just let the currency float and get some honest cops and the tourists, gawpers and fanatics will start to come back.

Nothing at all to do with politics, it's the banks dictating again...next comes Cuba followed by Iran and North Korea and then petrol goes back to 1.40+ a gallon.....

^ here are the mugs who would have the same things happen in Britain , given the chance.
They won't get the chance , so that doesn't worry me.

Lfc, do you not realise what's going on? It owes the matter which way you vote, it matters what you believe...reading your way of thinking, Pinochet was an angel.

It's about oil, control and the economy..that's all..political belief is ireelevant

forget the oil, there are hundreds of countries without any oil , oil does not bring a happy and peaceful and country.
Until these countries understand this there will never be progress.

Oil can be as big a curse as a blessing. The most successful countries can be those with the least natural resources.

They have just hauled the mayor of Caracas out of his home dressed in his pajamas , his daughter screaming for help as the old man is taken away by government thugs.
Now that is not politics , or oil, or the banks .

There must be some brainwashing clinic somewhere that processes lefties to make them so .. challenged?
Newsnight just had some corbynite shadow minister for .. stupidity on, they ask him about Corbyn and whether he should condemn Venezuela, this corrupt hard left vote r1gg1ng extremist regime oppressing and bankrupting his people, so of course he just blanks it and starts the same old marxist style rant about the US.

And yet there are millions who would vote for the likes of this fool and his shocker of a leader?

Given he's a Corbynista and with the anti-semitism of the sick cases in the paranoid hard left, I'm only surprised he didn't also blame Israel...

very droll checking

Could see the same happening here if Corbyn got into power backed by momentum after all it's the left and only the left that knows what's good for us wave democracy goodbye

thought we all already had re blexit

?????? 52% voted leave ! As long as it happens then democracy is alive and well

totally agree if, however it seems to me they are trying their hardest to keep as in, all the balls ups started by may, and the three trying to get us a good deal over in brussels were remain voters,im sure we will all be happy with the great deal they will work so hard to get this great county of ours

Yep terry I still think it won't happen or not the way the MAJORITY want it too

well there was no talk beforehand of a hard or soft, I believe they thought the people would vote STAY therefore letting us all down by not having a plan A or come to that a plan B

5 mayors have been jailed for 'failing to prevent protests against the government'

Trump not ruling out military options...

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-threatens-venezuelas-nicola...

(CNN) Nicolás Maduro Guerra, the son of the Venezuelan President, is threatening to seize the White House with rifles if President Donald Trump sends the US military to his nation.

The White House has condemned President Nicolás Maduro's regime for human rights abuses. More than 120 people have died in anti-government protests since April.
Last week, Trump said he would not rule out the possibility of a military intervention in Venezuela.

"Venezuela is not very far away and the people are suffering, and they are dying. We have many options for Venezuela, including a possible military option if necessary," Trump told reporters at his New Jersey golf club.

President Maduro's son responded to Trump on Saturday, but appeared confused on the location of the White House.

"If the unlikely event of defiling the homeland came to pass, the rifles would arrive in New York, " he told Venezuelan state media.
"Mr. Trump, we would arrive and take the White House."

Corbyn's model country Venezuela defaults on its debts.

How can this conceivably happen in such an oil rich country?

Let me guess. They weren't quite operating the right type of Socialism.

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https://order-order.com/2017/11/14/venezuela-runs-money-defaults/

as they don't want to trade with US dollars they are fooked just like libra were