USA - Pre-emptive strike imminent on N. Korea

A country run by a madman, constantly flaunting it's military, threatening other countries and treating it's population like idiots. North Korea almost as bad.

How imminent is imminent please?

in a while

the yanks have just opened a new base in south korea which holds 45,000 soldiers,a small town eve really,schools,church"s fast food outlets,even a golf course, not sure why as they can hardly invade the north now

message for detraveller,im sure you heard of the song called Enola Gay,its only a little problem.

A North Korean missile that looked dangerous would be shot down.

North Korea still has regular launch failures; would they risk accidentally nuking their own country?

They must understand that if they did attack they'd undoubtedly be destroyed in the retaliation.  Their leadership isn't suicidal like muslims.

Everything North Korea does is to make Kim Jong-un look strong to his own people.  They'll keep attacking the sea but they'd never initiate an actual conflict.

Best place to Hit would be the Launch Pad hopefully a Direct Strike on the War Head

looks like a go for attacking north korea.

china , you had your chance to resolve this peacefully?

it's all fake. the chinese and the americans and the koreans all have the same boss.
he owns the bankers and the secretive groups across the globe.
sets up fake conflicts to keep control of the whole world.

the Venezuela experiment of beating down people who gain self control is
an example of what they want for us all.

it's leading to everyone being personally attacked in some way as the year progresses.
financially, spiritually, through health or upturning of norms.

October is the summit.

Hmmmm.....nice .......my birthday is in October !

(Hi to Crags ! btw....post something on the orange you tube thread )

The main problem that seems to of been missed by all on here is the nuclear fallout ! Detraveller wrote that he's not to bothered as the NK can't hit Europe ! Not long after Chernobyl reactor blew up I was aboard a US nuclear submarine off the west coast of America about to go into Bremerton, Washington state. As the boat always ran on a war footing we nearly didn't surface due to the radiation readings. If it does kick off the radiation in the area will wipe out the likes of Japan, South Korea and large swaths of China which I imagine might irritate them a bit imagine not only the human cost but the effect on the world economy!

The last one helped the Japanese economy.

Oh fair enough lets go for it then

: ) its an observation, not a recommendation.

There is no need for nuclear weapons, the important thing is to invade and put an end to one of the most evil regimes in history.

It is only necessary , initially to overthrow Kim, to take him away from power. So that he is not able to have power over initially parts of the country. and then the whole country.

yeah invading worked so well in Korea last time (and Vietnam Afghanistan Iraq).

why the hell should we worry about kim, invade ffs!! cant you see the mess the world is in with your invade, are you blind man? o btw zorro,though you said sept 22nd and now you are talking about October

Yes all those campaigns are merely a question of America being prepared to change these countries for the better.
That requires the help of the local people also, as in Korea, and Vietnam , Afghanistan, Iraq, Japan, Germany, France, etc

Now you might think that the people of N.Korea would not prefer to be thankful to America, i suppose anythings possible.

good GOD

no one likes to be thankful.

Among all the shyte you get the odd gem, like this comment



"Killary better order more of her Kim Jong Un pantsuits. I have a feeling they won't exist soon." 

how reprehensible it is not to be thankful to a country brave enough to deliver you from tyranny and fear and murder and torture and starvation.

"October"

October
And the trees are stripped bare
Of all they wear
What do I care

October
And kingdoms rise
And kingdoms fall
But you go on...and on...

U2 Predicted it.

August and September are the most dangerous months.

not October, that is the season of `mists and mellow fruitfulness` not war.

And expensive months for a holiday

wars are never started in December, that's when they are meant to finish.

My Father fought in the North Korean War and the Vietnam war. My son currently serves in the US Marine Corp. I sincerely hope it's not going to be a case of deja vu

your father helped bring peace and freedom and goodness and happiness to millions of people.

Apart from the ones he shot

He was a helicopter pilot, received two Purple Hearts

He was shot in the arm first time and in the leg the second time. Used to sit on a steel plate so he didn't get one up the Harris or the Crown Jewels

October is the cap, Terry.

when the rapture happens, panic will happen across the globe. i expect
a loss of control and limited nuclear use to be an option. Ezekiel describes
something that sounds ominous. maybe nuclear?
https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/ezekiel-38-39-overview-and-summary/

i hope i'm away by then.

same here zorro, couple of days racing in the west country,two weeks in spain and a few gigs,sincerly hope they can put on hold for a while

I hope this rapture thing is more successful than Brexit.

brexit won't happen

rapture will.

brexit, trump, all are distractions to stop you seeing
what's really happening in 2017.

if there are millions of Christians aware of something happening?(you tube)
why no cursory mention by mainstream media?
they told you about Y2K and 2012 Mayan date setting?
It's a good way of ridiculing Christians? surely not to be passed up?
"look a lot of dumb Christians think this.... "
no mention of it? silence?

seems like they are passing up an opportunity?

they'd report on anything that affected 1000 people?
the amount of people seeing this on youtube and other sites
are very substantial.

You should make an appointment with your doctor....sounds like you are in a manic phase of Bi-Polar

It is entertaining but I am a little worried about you.

This stuff is all nonsense

ya think so - but ya have to wait till October to know it for sure.

go ta youtube.  punch in reveletion 12 sign.

see what comes up.

i don't do videos on youtube, never tried it.
so it's not me who's initiating it?

one video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_c1sDurGmY

218,000 views?

about the revelation 12 sign.

and there is hundreds of links about it...

yet no mainstream reportage on it? no mention even as a funny item?

Breedingmad    31 Jul 17 11:56 
I hope this rapture thing is more successful than Brexit.


Stop worrying man. Worst that can happen is you'll lose half yer neighbours, you'll get some more.

yeah, if you don't go with God.. the worst thing that can happen is you
are left here with Satan full blast evil. for seven years.

Are you saying a conflict with North Korea will be the end of the world? If yes, I say bring it on. If we all die, what's to worry about?

that's not gonna happen, North Korea is a joke.
they have anti missile missiles. It's about control.
about selling arms. they have to show their authority.
that's all it is. Step out of that control box and you
are punished. It's about drawing in innocents into fake
conflicts to damn themselves, Get their blood up.
do nothing. that's what they fear. Gandhi proved that.
do nothing and the machine grinds to a halt.

Does anyone know what's the point of 'show of strength' exercises? Do they use real ammunition? What's the financial cost of it? I really don't see a point in South Korea/US doing military exercises to show their strength when the whole world knows how strong the american military is.

the point is that everyone on earth has to be a consumer.
They have to be lined up to become a part of the hive mind.
part of facebook or some other alternative.
They cannot be behind a wall that cannot be accessed.
North Korea is controlling their entire population.
limited food and resources. Everyone has to want what's coming.
freedom of choice. It's under the flag of democracy but that's
a smokescreen. they want your participation.
I say FK it. sit on yer hands and do nothing.
the amount of spending is in the trillions since 911.
Donald Rumsfeld said a few days before 911, that spending was
too much on the military, that he was going to investigate it.
That was dropped like a hot potato.

I know they want our participation but i cant see any reason why Europe should send its troops to the conflict(though there wasnt any strong logic for sending troops to Middle East either). My fear is america will make it look like it was attacked and we'll have to send troops because of the NATO agreement.

Sadly there will always be the ones willing to travel thousands of miles to defend their country

the latest sound bite I heard this week was to do with
the first world war casualties. They were a sacrifice?
WTF. Is that how the soldiers saw it?
I'm a sacrifice.  Fighting for your life. Up to your knees in
mud getting trenchfoot and going out of your mind with bomb
blasts.
They really lay on the patriotic gloss on criminal negligence
of the leaders at the time.
If you did not want to be there you were shot by your own guys.

Jul 31, 2017 -- 6:25AM, The Leopard wrote:

You should make an appointment with your doctor....sounds like you are in a manic phase of Bi-PolarIt is entertaining but I am a little worried about you.This stuff is all nonsense

How is it nonsense, Leo?  That's a rather arrogant statement, imo.

Makes good sense to me and many thanks Zorro for bringing this whole Rev12 thing to my (and I would imagine others) attention.

Interesting times in which we live ... bring it on!

.

No news yet?

the atheist's think if you believe in God, and are not working the system in some
religious scam that gets you money like A prosperity pastor or in a full time job like a priest or minister that you are a kook. a guy in a basement with a serial killer collection and charts with string showing mad connections.
It's hollywood brainwashing. They do not see they've sucked in propaganda against Christ from the world. The beast system is loaded with little atheists and their own myths.
Science will save them all. Chasing money and fame is their targets in life.
When they do get it all - they usually self destruct because it's empty at the core.
The deathwish can be slow or fast acting.
How many times have we heard a story of some big lottery winner piss it all down the toilet.

Give it a rest zorro! If it's the end of the world it's the end of the world and just to tempt fate I don't think God would dare

zorro when the "rapture" yet again fails to appear this year, just like the previous predictions, will you agree to stfu about it for ever?

when did i previously predict it?

who's been predicting it?

If it was written down a couple of fousand years ago it must be true.

yep - what's yer point. is it more reliable if it was written down yesterday?

zorrostrikes • July 31, 2017 12:16 PM BST
brexit won't happen

rapture will.

brexit, trump, all are distractions to stop you seeing
what's really happening in 2017

that looks pretty much like a prediction to me

2,000 year old fake news.

Jul 31, 2017 -- 6:33AM, zorrostrikes wrote:

one video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_c1sDurGmY218,000 views?about the revelation 12 sign. and there is hundreds of links about it...yet no mainstream reportage on it? no mention even as a funny item?

Only had time to watch up to 7:25 for now before tea but what's with the three hours of darkness on the 23rd?  I've heard of Niburu / Planet X but is it really for real?  Where are NASA on this?

i've made one prediction of the rapture in my life - i have no intention of making any other. other separate individuals with no agenda are making the same prediction. with no personal profit motivation. unlike cults that have agendas and control issues. or organizations like the Jehovah witnesses that read from tampered texts. this is a warning from individuals to individuals.
the prosperity pastors are keeping silent about this. the organized churches are silent.
the real church composed of true believers know this is happening.
we will not turn you away from sin. we put out the warning to prepare the body of Christ to be ready for what's coming. If you have loose ties, things to do, do them now.
the rapture will be sometime between now and Sept 23rd. 
we go to the wedding feast. the door will be shut behind the groom and the bride of christ for seven days. seven years here on earth.

you know about Christ and choose to ignore him. he chooses those that believe through
faith. After the rapture new christians will believe because they have the proof of the rapture, these new christians will die for their faith or give it up to live.
In seven years Jesus will sweep all evil from the earth. He returns with a sword. if you are still an ally of this world you will be an enemy of God.

i chose that clip because it had a lot of views. to show that people
are aware of the revelation 12 sign.(212,000) some think there is another gravitational body out there that will influence the meteors mentioned in revelation.
i personally think that's speculation. Jupiter itself could draw meteors down. it's next to the meteor cloud between itself and Mars.
Some speculate that Jupiter will be hit? It's speculation.

I'm focusing on sept 23rd 2017, anything else is there for the people who will be left behind. It's their world for the next seven years.

Interesting article here Zorro that asks a few questions ...

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/stars/what-will-happen-september-23-2017/

I have to say in support of zorro that at least he gives us a particulat date when he says something will happen. And that date isn't far at all. We'll know soon. And if nothing happens, zorro you are fecked.

the web site is a bit two dimensional.
the star sign is just the cherry on the cake.
did they examine the date Jupiter entered Virgo?
the date it leaves Virgo.
that it's not the 12 yearly cycle of three months in Virgo ,
but the rarer 83 year old cycle of ten months in Virgo?
that it coincides with the religious year oct to sept 21st.
that this is a jubilee year (every 50 years) - that it's the year
Sir Isaac Newton pointed out.(2016-)
that it's 120 years from the first Jewish national congress declaring a new nation.
100 years exactly from Balfour, from General Allenby capturing the land from the Turks in unusual circumstances, surrendering to him without a shot.
70 years from Israel as a nation(a generation)
50 years from the six day war (how many countries did they fight?) jerusalem retaken.
40 years from another conflict in 1977.
500 years exactly from the reformation and the taking of the land by the Turks.

they just happened to form Israel 70 years from an unusual star sign and a jubilee year?

the star sign can be dispensed with. it's still the jubilee year.

but it entered Virgo while a supermoon not seen since 1948 was shining? that's a good trick. 1948 when israel was cemented as a nation. a strawberry moon in June, a super moon in November 2016. leaving at Rosh Hashana - the day and hour nobody knows - so called because the high priests have to declare the holiday by sighting the moon? the next holiday Jesus must fulfill in Leviticus. he's fulfilled four already, of the seven. next yom kippur and then the feast of tabernacles. that's the end of the holidays.

and as a bonus - they have reformed the priesthood who intend to blow the shofar on their holiday Rosh Hashana. reformed after 1,947 years. the high priest isn't Caiaphas though.

i understand what an accumulator is? the odds against lining up
events in sevens and tens.
you can't arrange stars unless you are God.
and dates in history lining up with Jubilee years would take some doing.
that it also lines up with scripture and jesus' promise of returning.. on the
40th jubilee since his birth? seems opportune.

zorro I understand where you are coming from,the more I look the more it seems the devil is running the show,and its getting worse day by day

Where have you been, my blue eyed son?
And what'll you do now, my darling young one?

Satan tempted Christ with all the kingdoms of the world? in the desert.
did Jesus say they weren't his?
You have to be born again, because you are born into a sinful world.
Adam lost his authority over the earth when he believed Satan in the Garden,
over God. So Satan has the lease for 6000 years. God respects his promise.
after the lease is up - Satan is bumped.

in a jubilee year the Jews are meant to forgive all debts.
if you had bond slaves you free them.
if you hold land as a debt you return it to the original owners.
the Jews no longer follow the jubilee ?

God does keep the jubilee.
so he'll forgive all sin. all debt.
he'll free his people.
the land reverts back to the original owner... God.

that's the last jubilee year. the count puts it as this year.

Satan loses all authority, society will breakdown as he tries to hold onto it all.
a spiritual war has already started.

Oh well another day and we're still here

Hey Dan, I saw you write somewhere your old man fought in Vietnam.  Did he spend anytime in Alconbury (Huntingdon)?

Don't know trilby I'll ask him......sorry you talking about British involvement? My old man was in the yank army.

No, a particular captain in USAF around 1963.

North Korea sent me a secret message using the clouds, I've to return back to
headquarters.

We're still here zorro! Remind me again what date is Armageddon?

USA telling anyone with a US passport to get out of north korea, that's not a bad sign is it!

When the fook is it gonna start?

North Korea may have a missile that has a range including America. What it doesn't have , is the capability/expertise to add a nuclear warhead to said missile.

didn't people used to sit round tables and try to discuss things ? why have those days gone? war! war! and more bloody war!

Minuteman 3s maybe old but are like the rolls Royce of nukes a couple will be enough to sort old kimmy out,

Don't worry it'll all be over in a flash

Armaggedon is not the end of the world? you are all brainwashed.
by Hollywood.

abbreviated version -

Jesus is taking the faithful away - they are gone. seven years in heaven.

Then evil crawls over the face of the earth. Satan and his pal the Big AC
they enlist their little baby Anti-christos. they confirm a covenant with many .
after that the clock starts ticking - three yrs six months.
Satan gets what he wants - a throne to sit on.

Jesus and the faithful returns to protect the Jews, sweeps evil off the world.
and set up the millennial kingdom. they put Satan in jail.

Some people who fall into the grey area will live on earth for 1000 years.
remarkably still evil persists in this new generation? The situation is
not fully explained as it''s the future. if i gave you next weeks winners
the outcome could change? maybe? 
Satan is allowed out? he again leads the masses of evil into the usual
bad ending. I have my own theories on this, but i don't want to muddy the waters.
God sees the end from the beginning. Finally
every soul has had their chance to come to God.
it's around the year 3024-3060? and God retires the earth.
a new earth and a new heaven is created.
the old earth fades away? God and the 'new Alpha Team' are off into eternity. (tm - i'm trademarking that)

So when was Armageddon, was it one event?
no. not one event - many.

no one can know the day or the hour? because the earth fades away.
it doesn't explode like in starwars?   

it's like a family eating a birthday cake... it's gradually disappearing.

Not knocking you or anyone's faith zorro...............but do you really believe all that you post ?

zorro doesn't understand the basics of anything he reads, and is dishonest in his interpretations.

" no one can know the day or the hour "

Now that was a warning that Christ could return at any time, and a warning so that you should be prepared for that to happen at anytime,
That is the important message behind those words .

Now of course that doesn't suit zorro or his ramblings
Therefore he reinterprets it to mean something else.

you read one line out of context? and you know God's word?
Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.(amos3:7)
everyone knows the one line that deters Christ's coming back? why is that?

you applaud bible ignorance. then quote it from your narrow knowledge of it.

Jesus is God, the very phrase - " no one can know the day or the hour " is the idiom for the holiday Rosh Hashana. The very holiday he is to fulfill next.
Your ignorance of God's holy days is staggering.

Two witnesses would sit on opposite hills looking for the first sliver of the moon to appear above them, when they saw it they would signal to the high priest of the SanHedrin and he would declare the day(the new year) with a shout. If there was cloud cover, it would be the next night or the night after? IT was the undetermined day in their calendar.
(oh - the SanHedrin was reformed recently and will do this ceremony, after 1,947 years)

"No one in Israel could plan for the first day of the seventh month Tishri,
called Yom Teruah or the Feast of Trumpets (also called Rosh HaShanah).
When they knew how many days to count to a festival, that would be easy.
But:

HOW COULD THEY PLAN FOR A FESTIVAL THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW AT WHAT DAY OR
HOUR IT WOULD PUBLICALLY BE ANNOUNCED AND THUS BEGIN?

This was unique to Rosh HaShanah and dependent upon the testimony of the
two witnesses. Prophetically, we are informed of two important witnesses
during the Great Tribulation"

http://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/9807/980715_c.html

try and understand - God is not some hick, he's working beyond grandmaster chess level by an order of magnitude that would scorch your noggin if it had that capabilty for a millisecond. Try to read the above page without sleeping.

zorro you quoted the line, not me .
And then you either didn't understand it or deliberatedly misinterpreted its meaning because it didn't suit your ends.
I don't trust that sort of thing, I don't know why.

A festival , how do you plan for it if you don't know when it will begin?
Very easily, live your life in a good way, it's a spiritual message .
Now you have to understand the basics.

that's the egyptian way -
did you see the Gerard Butler film - the Egyptian Gods turdo film.

you weigh your life on scales.
good deeds and bad deeds and the saying is...
They have been weighed on the scales of justice and have been found wanting.

Originally from the book of Daniel? it might be older than 2,500 years.

Spirituality is demonic. I'll trot along to the Tarot card reader, i'm such a spiritual person? 

i am the way the truth and the life, he that believeth in me tho he die, yet shall he live.
i am the Alpha and the Omega.
no one comes to the father except by me.

Being GOOD is a nothing. you get zero points in heaven for being Good. This is not a
computer game where points are tallied. This life is a test and you are failing it.
the bible says salvation is a GIFT. you have to accept the gift.
you just turned it down again?

Next time someone offers you a gift... slap them in the face and say. FK you I can pay my own way.

Think we'll be ok. we've all still got our tin foil hats from the Y2K bug armageddon, eh Zorro ? 

i met a guy once on a job around 1992? , he swore by the foil hat? he owned a big mansion in the west end of Glasgow. He was sending vintage car parts into the auction house. He had booked the parking space for the truck to get access to his house that morning. He was upset, really upset when someone parked in that space and bugg'rd off. He phoned the cops and because he was connected some superintendent showed up in braid ? They quickly exercised their power and got the car moved. he was in a dressing gown, white hair, aged 70? had a makeshift walking cane which was a gearstick from an old vintage motor car. Round ball with the gear diagram?
He was telling the boss, that the aliens in he mothership try to control you and beam information into your noggin - so he showed us a hat lined with tin foil to block their signals. he said when you try to rememember something you actually are accessing the motherships computers? sounds like the MS cloud? Very amusing. He had dismantled cars all through the mansion. All old vehicles from pre war. He was loopy but knew the value of his stuff. I figured he must have been a mason to have so much traction with the police brass.  one job, out of thousands? every day was different. unusual job.

still nothing even with fresh threats from North Korea.

I see Donald put the wind up Kim with his "Hell and Fury" rhetoric last night, so much so that Kim is now thinking about striking Guam ! Won't be long before someone's Alligator mouth overloads their canary ar$e

USA - Locked and Loaded !

Has it started yet? What's the delay?

Chelsea lost Burnley today so I've lost the will to live

Incoming !

ffs still nothing. One of Kim or Trump has to grow some balls.

nothing to live for then ,its a beautiful world,you don't really want some evil clown to fook it up do you?