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howard
14 Jul 17 14:26
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By:
twizzle22
When: 14 Jul 17 14:38
This total bollox regarding the police being restricted in chasing these inhuman $**** because they lob there crash helmets HAS to be revoked immediately.This would be a start at the very least.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 14 Jul 17 15:24
Dont worry the government are dealing with this problem.

Acid appears to be finding favour with gangs and individuals to settle disputes and launch attacks, as simple bleach products and drain unblocker is available cheaply in shops without checks and carrying it does not incur penalties, like knives do.

Home Office minister Sarah Newton told the BBC Friday that while the government was considering tighter restrictions on such materials, the fact they could be found in any kitchen cupboard made legislation difficult.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 14 Jul 17 15:45
15yo and a 16yo arrested...
By:
dustybin
When: 14 Jul 17 15:49
Has to be one of the most pathetic and cowardly methods of 'attack' going.
Whoever gets convicted of such an act should be utterly ashamed and humiliated, theres zero street cred about such actions imo.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 14 Jul 17 15:50
Around north east London area... Ive built a mental picture of these two characters..
By:
Slicer
When: 14 Jul 17 15:53
I have purchased on several occasions drain cleaner without any restriction or comment. It is freely available. IT IS SULPHURIC ACID. Safe in a plastic container, but how long before they think of transferring it to a water pistol or used washing up bottle to be used as an acid firing gun.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 14 Jul 17 16:18
If you attack someone with a knife the charge could be attempted murder.

If you attack someone with acid the charge could be grievous bodily harm.
So the attraction in using acid to attack someone is obvious, and carrying it is not illegal.

The offence needs upgrading to something more serious.
By:
saddo
When: 14 Jul 17 17:25
Never heard of this kind of thing until recently, is it yet another benefit we get from incomers? We are blessed, a myriad of things we'd never know about if we hadn't given huge chunks of the country away.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 14 Jul 17 17:27
Fair comment saddo.
By:
Injera
When: 14 Jul 17 17:39
What kind of sick bonehead do you have to be to throw acid into someone's face..Sad
By:
saddo
When: 14 Jul 17 17:56
It's regarded as a bit of laddish high jinks in some countries and not at all unusual, apparently.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 14 Jul 17 18:29
20 years  mandatory ,solitary confinement ,in the dark ...this needs nipped in the bud
By:
Zazu
When: 14 Jul 17 19:11
They were thieving.

Anyone want to offer odds they were 2 home grown white lads from a working family?
By:
alun2005
When: 14 Jul 17 19:21
A recent episode of the BBC's 'The Met - Policing London' provided an eye-opening illustration of this rampant criminality. The most ludicrous aspect, highlighted in an earlier post, is that the police are obliged to call off the chase if the criminals thrown away their crash helmets.
By:
cooperman
When: 14 Jul 17 19:25
One of the few things we can adopt from our transatlantic 'buddies'. Big bullbar bumpers on police vehicles, just ram them off the road.
By:
fool proof
When: 14 Jul 17 19:39
You would not be able to move for BLM protests cooperman
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 14 Jul 17 20:40
Just think it is professional criminals using the best tools that are available to them (via the crap law in this case)
By:
annie.
When: 14 Jul 17 20:51
I lived in both streets named in the attacks.  Growing up in Hackney was totally different to today.  I would not live there now if you paid me.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 14 Jul 17 21:02
Haven't seen any hinting in the media that the attacks are due to the victims religion or race so can only presume the suspects are not white.

(via the crap law in this case)

In fairness it's not that practical to start making people have to apply for a licence to buy bleach and Mr Muscle.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jul 17 21:07
you don`t have to, 30 years jail.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 14 Jul 17 21:09
YOu would think an acid attack should only come 2nd to murder in the crime steaks.
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Jul 17 21:14
250,000  Grand for a One bed Flat in the area ,Lovely.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 14 Jul 17 21:20
i saw this on bbc, the witness telling the bbc what he saw is John Moody the taxi quiz guy.
i'm watching the news and sayin to myself.. i know that guys face? loved that show, then someone hijacked it. stole the idea? or bought him out.

we all need to carry shampoo to counter the acid.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 14 Jul 17 21:26
The way the bbc are leading with this story, means only one thing. They already know the culprits. They would never make this story for more than 48hrs.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 14 Jul 17 21:31
To me I'd give a sentence of 15 years, someone could lose their eyesight, throw the book at them.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 14 Jul 17 21:41
india inspired?

the news ahould be telling people how to treat it... soap and water.
an alkaline to treat acid.
instead they tell you to buy Sulphuric Acid?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 14 Jul 17 21:43
Cmon, its just cultures integrating. what everyone wants.
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Jul 17 21:48
Yes Maimed Heads will add to the Diversity the City Loves ..

Unless the Basterds are Nailed  with very heavy Terms this will only get worse .
By:
saddo
When: 14 Jul 17 22:40
Quite common in India if a young man is jilted or even snubbed, zorro.
By:
RLKingPunter
When: 14 Jul 17 23:34
you know what id do, hold them down and squirt the same acid into their faces, see how they would like it.
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Jul 17 07:51
Just bring in a law that all corrosive liquids have to be bottled in tough (non squeezable) bottles with tapered nozzles, and make it an offence to reconstitute into other containers away from home or business.
By:
Ramruma
When: 15 Jul 17 10:33
Just bring in a law that all corrosive liquids have to be bottled in tough (non squeezable) bottles with tapered nozzles, and make it an offence to reconstitute into other containers away from home or business.

Since some naughty boys are already disobeying the law that says you can't throw acid in people's faces, I'm not sure a new law against decanting liquid into new containers will help. It will just make it harder for law-abiding citizens to clean their toilets.
By:
saddo
When: 15 Jul 17 10:38
We should remove criminals, not stop ordinary people being able to buy what they want. Will we ban the sale of vehicles if Muslims keep running people over? Of course not. Our lives have changed beyond recognition because of the actions of a few. Let's get after em.
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Jul 17 10:49
I do t believe it will impact law abiding citizens Ramruma.
Cleaning products will be in pre defined bottles only and it will eliminate the defence of anyone implying intent by carrying such fluids around in anything else.

There would still be areas where somebody might try and squirt toilet duck into somebody's eyes but blimey it's getting pretty desperate if that's all they got.

There is grey area now, people can carry screwdrivers lawfully if they have reason to, yet you could kill with one.
By:
saddo
When: 15 Jul 17 10:57
You can kill with almost anything, ask a soldier. Sanitising the world is not possible, removing violent criminals is. We need the will.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 15 Jul 17 11:19
Just bring in a law that all corrosive liquids have to be bottled in tough (non squeezable) bottles with tapered nozzles, and make it an offence to reconstitute into other containers away from home or business.

Sounds like a lot of hassle and change that will do little to alter the current law. If these guys had been stopped driving around on mopeds at night with bleach on them then it would be an offence of carrying an offensive weapon without reasonable excuse anyway in the same way it would if they were carrying baseball bats or socks with pool balls in them.
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Jul 17 11:36
Until you eliminate the defence by creating a defined law then how does carrying corrosive liquid become an offence?
You could be on the way to clean a bog or kitchen, but if you have transferred it artificially into a container to throw at somebody then there is intent.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 15 Jul 17 12:00
Just saying you are on the way to the bog whilst riding a moped at 10pm with a corrosive substance at night doesn't mean it's believable. If these people were stopped by the police before the attacks they would have have been charged with being in possession of an offensive weapon so I'm not sure what changing the law to what you suggest helps in anyway.
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Jul 17 12:08
If somebody created cover, let's say phoned a friend before setting off to arrange for them to bring the cleaning materials for the other person to clean their home.....then went out and attacked ppl.
How would the police be able to charge them with carrying an offensive weapon if they were stopped before the first assault?
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