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13 Jul 17
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Astonishing to see the number of seriously obese personnel, whilst on my all too regular hospital visits!
Please don't take this as in any way discriminatory, but my own experience is that they are all females!
Would you not think that, perhaps, they should be offered some help/advice, as it certainly doesn't set the best example to others?
Please don't take this as in any way discriminatory, but my own experience is that they are all females!
Would you not think that, perhaps, they should be offered some help/advice, as it certainly doesn't set the best example to others?
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you are not the first to have remarked on this - it is surprising is it not
Bad idea for an employer to pass comment on a fat employee imo
Probably Zazu, in the same way as you have to tolerate people with hideous BO, or Halitosis, for fear of otherwise causing offence,
or embarrassment if you are bold enough to comment on it!
or embarrassment if you are bold enough to comment on it!
My mate had an interview with an NHS worker about his diet when he got diabetes. He said she was so fat she couldn't get through the door.
The health of the nation is appalling.
With diabetes becoming accepted as normal in people as they get older.
This is after all the advice and money that the health authorities has spent on educating people how to eat properly and look after themselves.
The biggest mistake they made was to demonise fat in our diets.
Now fat in food has been replaced by sugar and carbohydrates which raises insulin and makes you fat.
Which is the main cause of the explosion in diabetes.
Doesn't it make one think that they don't know what they're talking about?
The health of the nation is appalling.
With diabetes becoming accepted as normal in people as they get older.
This is after all the advice and money that the health authorities has spent on educating people how to eat properly and look after themselves.
The biggest mistake they made was to demonise fat in our diets.
Now fat in food has been replaced by sugar and carbohydrates which raises insulin and makes you fat.
Which is the main cause of the explosion in diabetes.
Doesn't it make one think that they don't know what they're talking about?
NHS workers can't help themselves the same as the rest of us can't when it comes to eating.
Food has become addictive due to putting sugar in everything.
Food has become addictive due to putting sugar in everything.
Probably not Dr, and I know it's all around us, but just whilst in the waiting areas it seems, for some reason, more prevalent
They prolly all smoke, too. So what, as long as they look after patients they can do what they like IMHO. Work Hard and Be Nice to People. BTW Zazu, the mini-masterpiece by Rosie Vela?
they also work a very high stress job which raises cortisol which raises fat storage and makes you make poor decisions i.e. that 4th bottle of coca-cola
Jul 13, 2017 -- 12:19PM, Dr Crippen wrote:
My mate had an interview with an NHS worker about his diet when he got diabetes. He said she was so fat she couldn't get through the door. The health of the nation is appalling.With diabetes becoming accepted as normal in people as they get older. This is after all the advice and money that the health authorities has spent on educating people how to eat properly and look after themselves.The biggest mistake they made was to demonise fat in our diets.Now fat in food has been replaced by sugar and carbohydrates which raises insulin and makes you fat. Which is the main cause of the explosion in diabetes.Doesn't it make one think that they don't know what they're talking about?
quite ironic really that all the people who will need the nhs in the future are currently working within it
Went to a cafe in Wigan for breakfast with a mate and we asked for our eggs fried. Waitress said we are operating a healthy eating policy so only offer poached or scrambled.
Wouldn't have minded but she must have been 5 stone overweight.
Wouldn't have minded but she must have been 5 stone overweight.
Are we working under the assumption here that the nurses shouldn't be overweight because they are so close to the health system? The weitress' weight shouldn't really matter because she just works there. The healthy eating policy is betwen the restaurant and the diners. Not the restaurant and the staff, though of course it would be better to have a fitter looking staff.
Anyhow, 62% of Britain is overweight. You can't hide 62% of the population. Plus obese people help a hell of a lot of people make money. Especially the weightloss and fitness industry.
Anyhow, 62% of Britain is overweight. You can't hide 62% of the population. Plus obese people help a hell of a lot of people make money. Especially the weightloss and fitness industry.
NHS staff have to work various shifts. Night shifts shown to be bad for weight control 
I'd expect NHS workers to be very health conscious with the misery of ill health being thrust under their noses every day. Yet they're obvious not.
Wouldn't you expect a dentist to have perfect teeth?
If you take a banker you'd expect their finances to be in order.
If you took a car mechanic you'd expect his car to be running perfectly.
An electrician with his house electrics.
A heating engineer and his central heating.
All a perfect advertisement for the expertise they have in their jobs
Yet the health workers are the poorest advertisement for their own trade that's possible. I bet they're all on meds of some sort as well.
And they're supposed to be looking after us, when they can't even look after themselves.
Wouldn't you expect a dentist to have perfect teeth?
If you take a banker you'd expect their finances to be in order.
If you took a car mechanic you'd expect his car to be running perfectly.
An electrician with his house electrics.
A heating engineer and his central heating.
All a perfect advertisement for the expertise they have in their jobs
Yet the health workers are the poorest advertisement for their own trade that's possible. I bet they're all on meds of some sort as well.
And they're supposed to be looking after us, when they can't even look after themselves.
What is needed is a comparision to health care workers in the not-completely-socialised sector.
e.g.
St Johns Ambulance
RNLI
Dentists
Vets
Opticians
Slimming World Consultants
The market based systems in the 26 EU countries that do not have an NHS.
I think Lady Faye Verrit should be given a grant to research this question, share a photo diary on chit_chat of her research, and establish beyond reasonable doubt if the NHS causes chunkiness, or if the contrary view holds up that socialised medicine causes obesity.
e.g.
St Johns Ambulance
RNLI
Dentists
Vets
Opticians
Slimming World Consultants
The market based systems in the 26 EU countries that do not have an NHS.
I think Lady Faye Verrit should be given a grant to research this question, share a photo diary on chit_chat of her research, and establish beyond reasonable doubt if the NHS causes chunkiness, or if the contrary view holds up that socialised medicine causes obesity.
I went for a stroll earlier today and passed by a fire station.
I noticed the firemen out in the yard in a group listening to some bullshine I expect, from whoever it was who was lecturing them.
Most of them looked overweight to me, with the standard pot belly that has become the normal shape for men these days.
They're supposed to take fitness tests for that job as well.
I noticed the firemen out in the yard in a group listening to some bullshine I expect, from whoever it was who was lecturing them.
Most of them looked overweight to me, with the standard pot belly that has become the normal shape for men these days.
They're supposed to take fitness tests for that job as well.
Same as plod,they are all porkers.
Its clear that hard work makes public sector workers fat.
Its clear that hard work makes public sector workers fat.
I've had hideous surgery on my knee and shoulder this year, the NHS staff have all been way beyond superlative. Absolutely wonderful looking after me in my hour of need 
Jul 13, 2017 -- 3:41PM, SlippyBlue wrote:
I've had hideous surgery on my knee and shoulder this year, the NHS staff have all been way beyond superlative. Absolutely wonderful looking after me in my hour of need
Are your ailments related to your rugby playing past ?
playing devil's advocate, though, you don't need to be a size 8 model to be able to wipe somebody's ar$e
No The Leopard, although I had Osgood-Schlatter Disease in the same knee when I was a bit younger, I got a ruptured Baker's cyst which was absolute agony in my right knee, truly agonising and then had a bursal tear in my shoulder which is absolutely debilitating. I look like I've been run over by a truck, black and blue all over mate, it will take a year before I play squash again. But hey, things could be worse
My glass is still half full old bean.
My glass is still half full old bean.
Looking at obesity rates by country (OECD), English speaking countries are generally the worst, with Ireland the least obese of that group. Potatos?
In Europe, Switzerland is the least obese. Obesity in East and Southeast Asia is rare.
The UK is third on the list, with surprisingly Mexico being more obese, as well as the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity#/media/File:Obesity_country_comparison_-_path.svg
In Europe, Switzerland is the least obese. Obesity in East and Southeast Asia is rare.
The UK is third on the list, with surprisingly Mexico being more obese, as well as the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity#/media/File:Obesity_country_comparison_-_path.svg
Jul 13, 2017 -- 4:01PM, SlippyBlue wrote:
No The Leopard, although I had Osgood-Schlatter Disease in the same knee when I was a bit younger, I got a ruptured Baker's cyst which was absolute agony in my right knee, truly agonising and then had a bursal tear in my shoulder which is absolutely debilitating. I look like I've been run over by a truck, black and blue all over mate, it will take a year before I play squash again. But hey, things could be worse My glass is still half full old bean.
Just asking as I didn't encourage my son to keep playing rugby because he already had injuries by the time he was 16.....maybe I was wrong.....but could only see him getting more damage.
I've had hideous surgery on my knee and shoulder this year, the NHS staff have all been way beyond superlative. Absolutely wonderful looking after me in my hour of need ..
Absolutley Spot on Slip , A service 2nd to None ,When you really need these people if they
are 20 stone or 10 stone will be the last thing on a Persons Mind ..
Absolutley Spot on Slip , A service 2nd to None ,When you really need these people if they
are 20 stone or 10 stone will be the last thing on a Persons Mind ..
I used to get knocked out every now and then, I was a hooker and played at a decent level, England under 21's and County for Surrey. Rugby union has changed a great deal even at school level. Meatheads in the gym pumping iron and taking steroids, not the game I was used to where it to took brains and not brawn to be a good player.
Saying that Having Recently Spent a Day on a Ward following Surgery the 3 nurses in attendance ,were Absolute Crackers
Well that's always a bonus fella!
Macclesfield General did a good job with my 86 year old Dad over Christmas.....except they didn't seem too bothered that he was eating enough.....food was very dull and he wasn't eating it all up.
Plenty of good tales about concerning the NHS. Plenty of horror stories as well.
They did a good job on my brother with his heart by-pass operation.
They did a good job on my brother with his heart by-pass operation.
NHS TOP JOB
the only problem last time was I couldn't understand one of the chinese(?) nurses
the only problem last time was I couldn't understand one of the chinese(?) nurses
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Are we working under the assumption here that the nurses shouldn't be overweight because they are so close to the health system? The weitress' weight shouldn't really matter because she just works there. The healthy eating policy is betwen the restaurant and the diners. Not the restaurant and the staff, though of course it would be better to have a fitter looking staff.
Maybe I needed to say that based on her interaction with the other much younger 'waitress' and her tone in talking to us I took her to be the owner.
It was the attitude that 'we know best what healthy eating involves' attitude. The hypocrisy. 'I am 5 stone overweight and this is what I think healthy eating involves' We weren't 5 stone overweight and were being lectured on healthy eating.
Won't fry an egg, but sell bacon, sausages, toast, hash browns....sandwiches, cake, cream and pastries no doubt.
Are we working under the assumption here that the nurses shouldn't be overweight because they are so close to the health system? The weitress' weight shouldn't really matter because she just works there. The healthy eating policy is betwen the restaurant and the diners. Not the restaurant and the staff, though of course it would be better to have a fitter looking staff.
Maybe I needed to say that based on her interaction with the other much younger 'waitress' and her tone in talking to us I took her to be the owner.
It was the attitude that 'we know best what healthy eating involves' attitude. The hypocrisy. 'I am 5 stone overweight and this is what I think healthy eating involves' We weren't 5 stone overweight and were being lectured on healthy eating.
Won't fry an egg, but sell bacon, sausages, toast, hash browns....sandwiches, cake, cream and pastries no doubt.
Jack....the quickest, and totally reliable way to cook an egg, is to steam fry it...
Non stick pan, just greased with butter, add the egg and bring it to heat...
Now put in a splash of boiling water, and cover with a glass pan lid....
You can see clearly when it reaches your requirements.
No risk, as with boiling or poaching, of being over/under done.
Non stick pan, just greased with butter, add the egg and bring it to heat...
Now put in a splash of boiling water, and cover with a glass pan lid....
You can see clearly when it reaches your requirements.
No risk, as with boiling or poaching, of being over/under done.
From bongo's list, the only ones I experience are dentists and opticians.
I can say, with absolute honesty, that there are no obese people in any of these practices!
As for my OP, I just want to repeat that my own observations are that it appears to be, pretty much, a female trait!
At my GP's there is one only obese person, being a nurse, who is the one who had the audacity to suggest that I was "a bit over for my height"!
I can say, with absolute honesty, that there are no obese people in any of these practices!
As for my OP, I just want to repeat that my own observations are that it appears to be, pretty much, a female trait!
At my GP's there is one only obese person, being a nurse, who is the one who had the audacity to suggest that I was "a bit over for my height"!
I know a few people who are nurses, midwives etc. To be honest they're mixed in sizes - some are lucky and have good metabolisms, some work hard to stay under control and some could do with losing a bit.
I think the big issues are that the hours can be erratic; lots of late shifts or long shifts which lead to just picking up a bag of crisps or a microwave dinner rather than preparing something healthy. And secondly, it's a pretty stressful job. The number of times they moan about people drinking themselves to death etc, and they drink harder than just about anyone else I know.
I think the big issues are that the hours can be erratic; lots of late shifts or long shifts which lead to just picking up a bag of crisps or a microwave dinner rather than preparing something healthy. And secondly, it's a pretty stressful job. The number of times they moan about people drinking themselves to death etc, and they drink harder than just about anyone else I know.
Lady.
Just off to cook my breakfast now!
I will try your method using the splatter guard as a lid.
Will report back in half hour.
Just off to cook my breakfast now!
I will try your method using the splatter guard as a lid.
Will report back in half hour.
NO Jack!!!
That won't work!!!!
It has to be a pan lid to hold the stam!!
That won't work!!!!
It has to be a pan lid to hold the stam!!
50% success rate on egg breakages but otherwise very good.
Sort of cross between fried and poached, but a lot easier than poaching.
Even when frying, I have found the splatter guard speeds up cooking time greatly. Great product btw...not the mesh sort but it is solid with glass in the middle.
Sort of cross between fried and poached, but a lot easier than poaching.
Even when frying, I have found the splatter guard speeds up cooking time greatly. Great product btw...not the mesh sort but it is solid with glass in the middle.
Well I suppose we can let you off this time Jack.
But don't let it happen again!
But don't let it happen again!
Nice little tip from Lady Faye.
Just fried one and it came out perfect with no burnt bits on the edges either.
Had it with a few corn cakes.
That will keep me going until around 2 PM when I'll have an avocado salad.
Avocado chopped up, two bungs of coleslaw, capsicum, tomato, cucumber, lettuce.
What's up doc?
^See I'm starting to speak like a rabbit already.
Just fried one and it came out perfect with no burnt bits on the edges either.
Had it with a few corn cakes.
That will keep me going until around 2 PM when I'll have an avocado salad.
Avocado chopped up, two bungs of coleslaw, capsicum, tomato, cucumber, lettuce.
What's up doc?
^See I'm starting to speak like a rabbit already.
Jack....I need a new one, so just trawled Amazon, and don't see anything like you described!
Can you tell me the source please?
Can you tell me the source please?
lol
Ours is wearing out. We got it from Aldi or Lidl. I have been searching for one the same, but can't find one. Only this...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchencraft-Universal-Splatter-Guard-Lid/dp/B000YJBH4U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500029288&sr=8-5&keywords=splatter+guard
But it hasn't got the glass panel
Ours is wearing out. We got it from Aldi or Lidl. I have been searching for one the same, but can't find one. Only this...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchencraft-Universal-Splatter-Guard-Lid/dp/B000YJBH4U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500029288&sr=8-5&keywords=splatter+guard
But it hasn't got the glass panel
lol
Ours is wearing out. We got it from Aldi or Lidl. I have been searching for one the same, but can't find one. Only this...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchencraft-Universal-Splatter-Guard-Lid/dp/B000YJBH4U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500029288&sr=8-5&keywords=splatter+guard
But it hasn't got the glass panel
Ours is wearing out. We got it from Aldi or Lidl. I have been searching for one the same, but can't find one. Only this...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchencraft-Universal-Splatter-Guard-Lid/dp/B000YJBH4U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500029288&sr=8-5&keywords=splatter+guard
But it hasn't got the glass panel
Had one of those but the handle fell off!
Have to laugh at this thread now turning into a debate about splatter guards!
Have to laugh at this thread now turning into a debate about splatter guards!
Go careful Slippy and Case. Knees are tricky as you know.. Glad you had good care.
My recent experiences of the NHS have blown me away. Awesome compassion and professionalism. Cannot speak highly of the nurses and docs.
My recent experiences of the NHS have blown me away. Awesome compassion and professionalism. Cannot speak highly of the nurses and docs.
I just wish they'd make some effort to look after themselves.
Although you can't realy blame them.
They're simply following the advice that the rest of the population have been given about diet.
They tell us to eat a balanced diet yet everybody is getting fat from doing exactly that.
Following their advice is a licence to eat anything you like. And will turn you quickly into a sugar addict.
Even kids are getting overweight these days before they start school. Lack of exercise my eye.
Brilliant lecture here for anyone interested in considering their own health and more importantly how we are all being led up the garden path over obesity and its primary cause.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckN6WM6MeJI
There's a nice little piece of information for those who make too much ''bad cholesterol'' as well which I never knew about.
It states that bad cholesterol comes in two parts the same as total cholesterol.
Two parts, with one being bad and the other good as well.
The revelation is that the bad bit is made by eating carbs not through eating fat.
I urge anyone who would like to take steps to insure a long and healthy life to watch the video.
They're simply following the advice that the rest of the population have been given about diet.
They tell us to eat a balanced diet yet everybody is getting fat from doing exactly that.
Following their advice is a licence to eat anything you like. And will turn you quickly into a sugar addict.
Even kids are getting overweight these days before they start school. Lack of exercise my eye.
Brilliant lecture here for anyone interested in considering their own health and more importantly how we are all being led up the garden path over obesity and its primary cause.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckN6WM6MeJI
There's a nice little piece of information for those who make too much ''bad cholesterol'' as well which I never knew about.
It states that bad cholesterol comes in two parts the same as total cholesterol.
Two parts, with one being bad and the other good as well.
The revelation is that the bad bit is made by eating carbs not through eating fat.
I urge anyone who would like to take steps to insure a long and healthy life to watch the video.
The health benefits of a lower carb diet are amazing. The amount of poison in food is amazing. It is a generalisation to say it but my results are always the same. Low good - high bad. A major part of it is anything that is PROCESSED. Flour is a biggy for instance. But so much is processed and is not natural.
The problem people have with cutting out carbs, is that there's only fat and protein left.
Fat has been unjustly demonised, so they end up eating too much protein. Which will if you eat too much start raising insulin and hamper weight loss for people trying to slim down.
They can also start feeling lousy from digesting too much protein.
Yet there's no need to avoid fats, or eggs, cheese, avocados, nuts.
Why load ourselves up with carbs at all, when there's loads more healthy stuff we can eat that doesn't make us fat?
Carbs are mainly used for cheap stodge in meals.
And sugar is used to ensure you come back for more, and above all by the food manufactures to keep us eating.
Fat has been unjustly demonised, so they end up eating too much protein. Which will if you eat too much start raising insulin and hamper weight loss for people trying to slim down.
They can also start feeling lousy from digesting too much protein.
Yet there's no need to avoid fats, or eggs, cheese, avocados, nuts.
Why load ourselves up with carbs at all, when there's loads more healthy stuff we can eat that doesn't make us fat?
Carbs are mainly used for cheap stodge in meals.
And sugar is used to ensure you come back for more, and above all by the food manufactures to keep us eating.
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