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Lady Faye Verrit
13 Jul 17 17:46
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Astonishing to see the number of seriously obese personnel, whilst on my all too regular hospital visits!

Please don't take this as in any way discriminatory, but my own experience is that they are all females!

Would you not think that, perhaps, they should be offered  some help/advice, as it certainly doesn't set the best example to others?

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By:
moisok
When: 13 Jul 17 18:02
you are not the first to have remarked on this - it is surprising is it not
By:
Zazu
When: 13 Jul 17 18:06
Bad idea for an employer to pass comment on a fat employee imo
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 13 Jul 17 18:17
Probably Zazu, in the same way as you have to tolerate people with hideous BO, or Halitosis, for fear of otherwise causing offence,
or embarrassment if you are bold enough to comment on it!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jul 17 18:19
My mate had an interview with an NHS worker about his diet when he got diabetes. He said she was so fat she couldn't get through the door.

 
The health of the nation is appalling.
With diabetes becoming accepted as normal in people as they get older.

This is after all the advice and money that the health authorities has spent on educating people how to eat properly and look after themselves.

The biggest mistake they made was to demonise fat in our diets.
Now fat in food has been replaced by sugar and carbohydrates which raises insulin and makes you fat.
Which is the main cause of the explosion in diabetes.

Doesn't it make one think that they don't know what they're talking about?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jul 17 18:23
NHS workers can't help themselves the same as the rest of us can't when it comes to eating.

Food has become addictive due to putting sugar in everything.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 13 Jul 17 18:52
Probably not Dr, and I know it's all around us, but just whilst in the waiting areas it seems, for some reason, more prevalent
By:
Life-Lucky
When: 13 Jul 17 19:08
They prolly all smoke, too. So what, as long as they look after patients they can do what they like IMHO. Work Hard and Be Nice to People. BTW Zazu, the mini-masterpiece by Rosie Vela?
By:
betting_masta
When: 13 Jul 17 19:46
they also work a very high stress job which raises cortisol which raises fat storage and makes you make poor decisions i.e. that 4th bottle of coca-cola
By:
betting_masta
When: 13 Jul 17 19:48

Jul 13, 2017 -- 12:19PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


My mate had an interview with an NHS worker about his diet when he got diabetes. He said she was so fat she couldn't get through the door.  The health of the nation is appalling.With diabetes becoming accepted as normal in people as they get older. This is after all the advice and money that the health authorities has spent on educating people how to eat properly and look after themselves.The biggest mistake they made was to demonise fat in our diets.Now fat in food has been replaced by sugar and carbohydrates which raises insulin and makes you fat. Which is the main cause of the explosion in diabetes.Doesn't it make one think that they don't know what they're talking about?


quite ironic really that all the people who will need the nhs in the future are currently working within it

By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 13 Jul 17 20:00
Went to a cafe in Wigan for breakfast with a mate and we asked for our eggs fried.  Waitress said we are operating a healthy eating policy so only offer poached or scrambled.

Wouldn't have minded but she must have been 5 stone overweight.
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Jul 17 20:15
Are we working under the assumption here that the nurses shouldn't be overweight because they are so close to the health system? The weitress' weight shouldn't really matter because she just works there. The healthy eating policy is betwen the restaurant and the diners. Not the restaurant and the staff, though of course it would be better to have a fitter looking staff.

Anyhow, 62% of Britain is overweight. You can't hide 62% of the population. Plus obese people help a hell of a lot of people make money. Especially the weightloss and fitness industry.
By:
ufcdan
When: 13 Jul 17 20:16
NHS staff have to work various shifts. Night shifts shown to be bad for weight control Mischief
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jul 17 20:33
I'd expect NHS workers to be very health conscious with the misery of ill health being thrust under their noses every day. Yet they're obvious not.

Wouldn't you expect a dentist to have perfect teeth?
If you take a banker you'd expect their finances to be in order.
If you took a car mechanic you'd expect his car to be running perfectly.
An electrician with his house electrics.
A heating engineer and his central heating.
All a perfect advertisement for the expertise they have in their jobs

Yet the health workers are the poorest advertisement for their own trade that's possible. I bet they're all on meds of some sort as well.

And they're supposed to be looking after us, when they can't even look after themselves.
By:
bongo
When: 13 Jul 17 21:14
What is needed is a comparision to health care workers in the not-completely-socialised sector.
e.g.
St Johns Ambulance
RNLI
Dentists
Vets
Opticians
Slimming World Consultants
The market based systems in the 26 EU countries that do not have an NHS.

I think Lady Faye Verrit should be given a grant to research this question, share a photo diary on chit_chat of her research, and establish beyond reasonable doubt if the NHS causes chunkiness, or if the contrary view holds up that socialised medicine causes obesity.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jul 17 21:24
I went for a stroll earlier today and passed by a fire station.

I noticed the firemen out in the yard in a group listening to some bullshine I expect, from whoever it was who was lecturing them. 
Most of them looked overweight to me, with the standard pot belly that has become the normal shape for men these days.

They're supposed to take fitness tests for that job as well.
By:
hectoratoratora
When: 13 Jul 17 21:34
Same as plod,they are all porkers.
Its clear that  hard work makes public sector workers fat.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Jul 17 21:41
I've had hideous surgery on my knee and shoulder this year, the NHS staff have all been way beyond superlative. Absolutely wonderful looking after me in my hour of need Love
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 13 Jul 17 21:45
The fatties are the ones who aren't on uppers.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jul 17 21:49

Jul 13, 2017 -- 3:41PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


I've had hideous surgery on my knee and shoulder this year, the NHS staff have all been way beyond superlative. Absolutely wonderful looking after me in my hour of need


Are your ailments related to your rugby playing past ?

By:
betting_masta
When: 13 Jul 17 21:57
playing devil's advocate, though, you don't need to be a size 8 model to be able to wipe somebody's ar$e
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Jul 17 22:01
No The Leopard, although I had Osgood-Schlatter Disease in the same knee when I was a bit younger, I got a ruptured Baker's cyst which was absolute agony in my right knee, truly agonising and then had a bursal tear in my shoulder which is absolutely debilitating. I look like I've been run over by a truck, black and blue all over mate, it will take a year before I play squash again. But hey, things could be worseHappy My glass is still half full old bean.
By:
pxb
When: 13 Jul 17 22:07
Looking at obesity rates by country (OECD), English speaking countries are generally the worst, with Ireland the least obese of that group. Potatos?

In Europe, Switzerland is the least obese. Obesity in East and Southeast Asia is rare.

The UK is third on the list, with surprisingly Mexico being more obese, as well as the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity#/media/File:Obesity_country_comparison_-_path.svg
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jul 17 22:15

Jul 13, 2017 -- 4:01PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


No The Leopard, although I had Osgood-Schlatter Disease in the same knee when I was a bit younger, I got a ruptured Baker's cyst which was absolute agony in my right knee, truly agonising and then had a bursal tear in my shoulder which is absolutely debilitating. I look like I've been run over by a truck, black and blue all over mate, it will take a year before I play squash again. But hey, things could be worse My glass is still half full old bean.


Just asking as I didn't encourage my son to keep playing rugby because he already had injuries by the time he was 16.....maybe I was wrong.....but could only see him getting more damage.

By:
casemoney
When: 13 Jul 17 22:22
I've had hideous surgery on my knee and shoulder this year, the NHS staff have all been way beyond superlative. Absolutely wonderful looking after me in my hour of need ..

Absolutley Spot on Slip ,  A service 2nd to None ,When you really need these people if they
are 20 stone or 10 stone will be the last thing on a Persons Mind ..
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Jul 17 22:23
I used to get knocked out every now and then, I was a hooker and played at a decent level, England under 21's and County for Surrey. Rugby union has changed a great deal even at school level. Meatheads in the gym pumping iron and taking steroids, not the game I was used to where it to took brains and not brawn to be a good player.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Jul 17 22:24
Well said casemoney.
By:
casemoney
When: 13 Jul 17 22:28
Saying that Having Recently Spent a Day on a Ward following Surgery the 3 nurses in attendance ,were Absolute Crackers Love
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 13 Jul 17 22:31
Laugh Well that's always a bonus fella!
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jul 17 22:32
Macclesfield General did a good job with my 86 year old Dad over Christmas.....except they didn't seem too bothered that he was eating enough.....food was very dull and he wasn't eating it all up.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jul 17 22:45
Plenty of good tales about concerning the NHS. Plenty of horror stories as well.

They did a good job on my brother with his heart by-pass operation.
By:
moisok
When: 13 Jul 17 23:04
NHS TOP JOB

the only problem last time was I couldn't understand one of the chinese(?) nurses
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 14 Jul 17 08:12
Joined: 18 Nov 15 | Topic/replies: 6,715 | Blogger: detraveller's blog
Are we working under the assumption here that the nurses shouldn't be overweight because they are so close to the health system? The weitress' weight shouldn't really matter because she just works there. The healthy eating policy is betwen the restaurant and the diners. Not the restaurant and the staff, though of course it would be better to have a fitter looking staff.

Maybe I needed to say that based on her interaction with the other much younger 'waitress' and her tone in talking to us I took her to be the owner.

It was the attitude that 'we know best what healthy eating involves' attitude.  The hypocrisy.  'I am 5 stone overweight and this is what I think healthy eating involves'  We weren't 5 stone overweight and were being lectured on healthy eating.

Won't fry an egg, but sell bacon, sausages, toast, hash browns....sandwiches, cake, cream and pastries no doubt.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 14 Jul 17 08:48
Jack....the quickest, and totally reliable way to cook an egg, is to steam fry it...

Non stick pan, just greased with butter, add the egg and bring it to heat...

Now put in a splash of boiling water, and cover with a glass pan lid....

You can see clearly when it reaches your requirements.

No risk, as with boiling or poaching, of being over/under done.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 14 Jul 17 08:59
From bongo's list, the only ones I experience are dentists and opticians.

I can say, with absolute honesty, that there are no obese people in any of these practices!

As for my OP, I just want to repeat that my own observations are that it appears to be, pretty much, a female trait!

At my GP's there is one only obese person, being a nurse, who is the one who had the audacity to suggest that I was "a bit over for my height"!
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 14 Jul 17 09:35
I know a few people who are nurses, midwives etc. To be honest they're mixed in sizes - some are lucky and have good metabolisms, some work hard to stay under control and some could do with losing a bit.


I think the big issues are that the hours can be erratic; lots of late shifts or long shifts which lead to just picking up a bag of crisps or a microwave dinner rather than preparing something healthy. And secondly, it's a pretty stressful job. The number of times they moan about people drinking themselves to death etc, and they drink harder than just about anyone else I know.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 14 Jul 17 09:37
Lady.

Just off to cook my breakfast now!

I will try your method using the splatter guard as a lid.

Will report back in half hour.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 14 Jul 17 09:40
NO Jack!!!
That won't work!!!!

It has to be a pan lid to hold the stam!!
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 14 Jul 17 09:40
...or steam
By:
saddo
When: 14 Jul 17 09:45
Splatterguard for a lid   Crazy
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