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11 Jul 17
15:31
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Arrived yesterday courtesy of me old daddy being born in the mother country.
To be sure.
Brexit, what Brexit?
To be sure.
Brexit, what Brexit?
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Are you sure you didn't receive it in Eire?
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How far can you go back? I have an ancestor 7 generations back born in Tipperary
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another reason to dislike them.
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the sheer cheek of a country that thinks it can offer citzenship to people from a different country, of course witout the obligation to employ them, or house them or feed them, no it`s England that has to do that.
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Cead mile failte Jack.
Get your little head around this one lfc, Number of UK born citizens living in Ireland is 250,000, that is a large percentage of just over 4 million. What are your views on UK citizens living in the likes of Spain,Australia,France etc, Is that a God given right in your little englander opinion? |
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yes of course, there are British people living all over the world, so what?:
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when you get citizenship of a country it should be a privilige, not something to be passed out freely and without obligations on the person to at least live in that country, to have worked there, to have been part of contributing to that country, no one respects a country that gives away its citizenship so freely and easily.
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and why haws the Irish government allowed this? its very simple, they have no need to pay for it.
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Your blase statement that England HAS to employ them,house them and feed them is nonsense,quite sure UK citizens are the recipients of social welfare as well,particulary within the EU.
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of course, i should hope so.
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but then again that is something that brexit is designed to stop ie, millions of people from the EU having free access to the NHS.
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now no matter how you look at it, if people are living in England they have to be housed, employed, fed, cared for, etc..that is how it is.
now these Irish citizens will not be Irelands responsibility, that is something they are pretty sure about and counting on when they so blithely hand out this citizenship. |
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Of course that is right to be stopped, you are going off on a tangent now though,the issue of the sibling of an Irish person receiving an Irish passport was what you are vehemently against,why?
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I am not against that, i agree with that. If the son or daughter intends to live and work in their parents home country that is a nice thing to have.
However it should only be given to them, and applied for, once they are living and working in Ireland. |
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Ireland isn't Mars,it's social welfare bar health is way above the UK and it has been abused, otherwise as far as i know the two countries would be similar with regards criteria for social welfare.
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ah yes, that`s true, but that`s because they are neighbours of England, and have all the same rights as any British citizen..this is what keeps the Irish economy from collapsing.
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Ireland needs to be careful with this policy. What if during Brexit the agreement is that for dual passport holders, whilst in the EU are treated as Irish. Then you could have a situation where all of the English born, never paid a penny in tax to Eire, get a passport then go to work in the EU somewhere. They get ill, the cost gets sent back to Eire. That could end up being quite a hefty bill, especially if a lot of pensioners living on the Costas do it.
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Not really,Irelands young people are among the best educated in Europe,America has many employed in Ireland with tech and pharmaceuticals in particular,the export of foodstuff between the two countries is important alright,Ireland has moved on the last few decades.
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16.47 to lfc.
Fair point Shab. |
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even post brexit i am pretty sure it will be England who has to pay for these sick Irish citizens, they will suddenly be pronunced British
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Education plays a surprisingly small role in the prosperity of a country or its people.
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Ireland still enjoy a very favourable 12.5% corporate tax rate. This is why many businesses like pharma are currently sited there. When we have hard Brexit, perhaps our corporate tax rate will be dropped considerably to attract companies here.
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It is the access to education, jobs, language, society on all levels, in Britain that is vital to Ireland. This cannot, and will not be replicated in any other country in europe.
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How much did the Irish passport cost? I am eligible for one.
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there`s another one
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Spot on with corporate tax Stow,about 120e i think,similar to UK anyway, you are welcome anytime Stow, think they can be got online at the moment
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One of my grandfathers was Irish & the other Scottish. Both my parents are English. I'm extremely unlikely to apply for an Irish passport, but you never know.
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now wouldn`t it be interesting if we could all be issued with Irish passports, allowing freedom of movement between Ireland and Britain, and of course freedom of movement between Britain(with Irish passport)
but no freedom of movement from the EU to Britain, post brexit. That would solve all pproblems. |
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Can you play football?
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I do love the slower pace of life in Ireland. A fine holiday destination if you aren't too bothered about the grim weather.
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* freedom of movement between Britains Irish passport holders( all of us) and the EU, but of course no freedom of movement to britain from the EU
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My football playing days are well over.
I was an ok footballer, but was/am not especially athletic. |
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 You still might do.That would be an ideal scenario lfc,i sinserely hope brexit works out well for the UK, i believe it was the right thing to do and you as a country stood up to Merkels whims at the right time. |
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I fear we will suffer a fair amount of pain before/if it gets better. I am fairly hopeful, but we don't appear to have any/many decent politicians or negotiators.
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Bad idea for Irish government to hand out passports to all and sundry, devalues the passport in my opinion and may come back to bite us on the backside, when some "IRISH" Citizien commits some dreadful atrocity with the aid of his Irish passport
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I'm an Irish citizen courtesy of my Mum. Says here that you can't download the app, and have to go to the embassy.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_abroad/passports/applying_for_or_renewing_an_irish_passport.html#ld1a9a Costs 80 Euro |
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Welcome Jack.
There is a ceremony every few months where new citizens are welcomed. They show a little of it on the tv news. Get used to supporting a football team that tries to win. |
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More British people are eligible for Irish passports than there currently are Irish people in the world
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My Old Man moved over from Ireland in the 60's. He's always had an Irish passport, and it was a nightmare going through any borders on holiday in the late 80's early 90's. He'd get stopped and searched, and singled out because of his passport at opportunity.
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