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By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 12:34
Right so the rich should not be taxed , i see now that solves evrything
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Jun 17 12:35
I agree with anxious, he does not like being questioned or giving answers.
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 12:35
IT ive been through all this with you , its a bit like ping pong
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 12:36
Dear me the Spiv fans are on here today in their droves , tory high command must be in panic mode Laugh
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 12:38
The only group that the Spivs got more votes than Labour was the over 70s
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Jun 17 12:38
Fred, David Lammy parents hail from Guyana where rioting went hand in hand with elections.  It has a GINI index rating of 60, compared to the UK's 32, making Guyana one of the most unequal countries in the World.  One could say thieving private property for the state is in his blood.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 12:38
anxious
17 Jun 17 12:34
Joined: 14 May 15
| Topic/replies: 16,356 | Blogger: anxious's blog
Right so the rich should not be taxed , i see now that solves evrything

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Which countries tax the 'rich' more than the UK and have a better society as result?

You can try and tax them more but you will get no more income to the government.
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 12:43
What do you mean by a better society ?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 12:44
On any measure you would like to use.

There is 1 country in the G20 that taxes people on $400k a year more than UK and that is Italy.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Jun 17 13:01
IT France surely taxes people more than the UK?  It's one of the reasons (I thought) that so many French people live and work in London.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 13:38
France you keep 58.10% if you earn $400,000. Germany you keep 60.61%. In UK it is 57.28%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26327114

When it gets to details beyond calling non-leftists nasty and spiv Anxious runs a mile.

He simply does not want to discuss the issues.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 13:40
France shifted high taxes onto employers. This is something else Corbyn was pushing for as well.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Jun 17 14:25
So the upshot of France shifting higher taxes onto employers means lower wages (and higher prices and fewer exports).  Hence why so many French are working in London.
By:
saddo
When: 17 Jun 17 14:36
Clyde, I know nowt much about economics, but it does seem an efficient way to collect revenue from multinational companies who otherwise avoid paying tax on profits. If it lowers their year end profits they have less tax to pay(or less to avoid paying) and meanwhile the gov gets a weekly cash flow. Small companies could be treated differently.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 14:36
Yes. As the article says it is really only things that have to be in France like football teams that stay.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 14:38
saddo why would an investment bank employ someone at the Paris office and pay that tax when they can send them London and not pay it?

It is the businesses that have to have that employee in France that pay it.
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:42
I would never take a back step from your sort IT
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:42
The supporters of the top 5 per cent
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 14:46
anxious,

Ok.

1. Why would the robin hood tax work in the UK when it failed in Sweden?
2. Why give the rich benefits such as free bus passes and winter fuel allowances?
3. Why increase corporation tax on middle size employers when you know the multinationals will just shift profits offshore?
4. Why spend less on the NHS than the Tories?
5. Why stop charging people for uni fees when they make enough money to pay them back and charge society (including low earners) instead?
6. Why bring in more and more and more people from overseas to rub the poor British people's noses in it to provide cheap labour for multinationals when you know it erodes services and infrastructure?
7. Why oppose prevent and want it scrapped with no replacement?

So instead of shouting 'spiv' and 'nasty' can we have some answers please?
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:49
I listed half of them before , anyway im watching the racing being a spiv for an hour or so
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:51
Ask yourself this why is it you support the failed trickle down policies and Austerity for the poor whilst the banks and the financial institutions escape any punishment
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:52
Why do you support the rip off untility companies , Bt , brtish gas , water etc
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:53
Can you explain why the tories cut social care by 5 billion since 2010
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 14:56
Do you still support the vile bedroom tax
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 15:42
Can you imagine if this shower of left wing coonts got into power ! They don't except the democratic will of the people now, once in power we'd never see an general election again as they know what's best for us ! Although maybe they do, we can all see what a great success Venezuela is currently Crazy
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 15:45
Keep supporting your tory masters Dan they will look after you and the country
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 15:46
Yep Cool
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 15:46
Explain Venezuela anxious Angry
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jun 17 15:50
Venezuela lent on the rubber crutch that is oil.
Everything is leveraged on that and thats the only trick they have.
When that folded everything went with it.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 15:51
Where have I ever said that about the 5% or the 1%?

I am questioning why give untargeted benefits and how will practically tax the 'rich' to pay when they already pay most of the tax.

If by the bedroom tax you mean the reduction of housing handouts for people with a spare room I support the principle but like with all these things it has been poorly implemented. Not point is moving people out of a converted property for disabled person and then have to convert somewhere else.

It is very easy to say I will do this or that or the other but you refuse to say how would actually gather the revenue.

The reality is everyone has to pay more tax if you believe the state is best at running services. I am not convinced local councils are the best TBH.
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 15:56
Keep supporting a system that spends bilions on weapons of mass destruction but cannot alledgely afford drugs that can prolong life with the suffering from Cancer and other diseases
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jun 17 15:57
IT
97% of world 'money' is debt.
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 15:59
Totally agree IT regarding tax, I don't understand the Tories claiming to be the lox tax party. I would happily pay more tax as long as its proportionally fair and that the money goes to services in this country. Like the left I do want a fairer society however I don't want to take it off a small section of the population.
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jun 17 16:03
Its called the Keynesian approach dan.
Its a left wing principle.
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 16:04
More tax is the answer from all anxious. I would raise the allowance to £12,000 a year after that raise tax for everyone by the same percentage points keeping the tax rates charges now
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 16:06
Keep doing political tests dusty keep coming up as centre left Mischief I suppose although he's turned out to be one of the worst PMs of all time I didn't mind Blair
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Jun 17 16:06
anxious
17 Jun 17 15:56
Joined: 14 May 15
| Topic/replies: 16,369 | Blogger: anxious's blog
Keep supporting a system that spends bilions on weapons of mass destruction but cannot alledgely afford drugs that can prolong life with the suffering from Cancer and other diseases

...

By this I assume you are talking Trident that your party of choice supports. CND thinks this will cost £2bn to £2.4bn per year. Its part of the 2% of GDP defense budget. Government spends over £600bn a year. It is not a massive part of it. On a yearly basis it would cost about 2-3 months of the free uni fees Corbyn wants to give.

The fact is Corbyn not offering masses of extra cash for cancer drugs. He was offering less than the Tories on the NHS.

To pay for the kind of services people say they want everyone has to work or everyone has to pay alot more income tax.

You simply will not get it from the 1% or 5%. You try and charge them more and you will end up getting a lot less.
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jun 17 16:08
Watch Four Horsemen, you can even see it for free on youtube
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 16:10
We might get the service we want if we paid between 1&5% extra in tax. Mind you we might not if we scrapped the ridiculously high 0.7% of GDP to foriegn aid Crazy
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jun 17 16:11
Not need to
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