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olddesperado
16 Jun 17 21:14
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Watching the events of the last few days got me thinking of when i lived in London .

I remember going into a pub with a mate and calling for 2 pints but the bar man ignored us and kept polishing bottles.

I expect a degree of gratitude when im spending my hard earned so we walked out after a couple more attempts to get served.

Went into another a bit up the road and were regaling our amusement at being probably mistaken for someone banned.

Did you notice anything about the people in there asked the barman to which we replied no,

Describe them he said,

Well there was two coloured guys down the end and thats it,

And what about the barman ?

Then the penny dropped .

Its well known in the area he said.

It was around peckham Nunhead lane area circa 1992.
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Report SlippyBlue June 16, 2017 9:26 PM BST
To me that maybe a refection on you. I'm 50 years old, born in Brixton and have had several beers in pretty much every pub in South London in my time and have got untold amounts of mates from the West Indies. Never once have I had grief anywhere in my entire life from anyone regardless of race, colour nor creed. I know Peckham very well, I live not that far away in Dulwich Village. I've got friends there, never once have I had a problem with anyone.
Report olddesperado June 16, 2017 9:31 PM BST
No we only had 2 or 3 pints at that stage so were not even merry let alone drunk.
Report moisok June 16, 2017 9:53 PM BST
who would go sarf of most parts of the river
some small enclaves ok in daytime
and greenwich which is miles down though is ok
Report olddesperado June 16, 2017 9:59 PM BST
It was circa 1992 , 

If such a thing didnt exist then,  well then i was misinformed in the nearby pub.
Report akabula June 16, 2017 9:59 PM BST
SlippyBlue
To me that maybe a refection on you


Not sure how you arrive at that slippy given Its well known in the area he said.
Report olddesperado June 16, 2017 10:01 PM BST
I guess there was plenty of pubs that leaned the other way at that time too,
Report Whisperingdeath June 16, 2017 10:05 PM BST
moisok

South of the river they don't care about your colour, your creed or your politics. If you try and jump the order you get chinned, quite rightly!

It is as anti racist, anti ignorant as you can get. Wait your turn!
Report saddo June 16, 2017 10:08 PM BST
Quite a few "black" pubs in the 80s, Chapeltown- Leeds, Manningham- Bradford. The only white people in there went to listen to reggae and buy weed. Quite harmonious for years til crack cocaine appeared and then the mood changed over a shortish time.
Report akabula June 16, 2017 10:14 PM BST
I think this could be WD Laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqYHT6nRaA
Report Whisperingdeath June 16, 2017 10:19 PM BST
You ain't wrong there alabulaLaugh!

Except I would have paid for the canoli and shot him the pilsbury doughboy again for what he said!
Report moisok June 16, 2017 10:22 PM BST
gosh whispering

wen I am in town I EXPECT  to be surved furst

what is wrong wiv the great unwashed????
Report Whisperingdeath June 16, 2017 10:25 PM BST
moises!

Try going to the Bar in Nottng Hill

I am just surprised I ain't been arrested yet!
Report casemoney June 16, 2017 10:28 PM BST
Be a No Go area  When the Locals Kick off Sad Spec when the Non Locals Join in .
Report Capt__F June 16, 2017 10:32 PM BST
earl grey pershore rd bham natty dred
Report Dr Crippen June 16, 2017 11:12 PM BST
Whisperingdeath
     16 Jun 17 21:52   
Glad you know how it feels desperado!

I went into a pub in Notting Hill.
I am very polite and well mannered.

So it's only when you're on here then?
Report a bitofinterest June 16, 2017 11:28 PM BST
clearly whats needed is a rainbow naked group hug,preferably in slippys back garden

followed by a barbecue and a few beers
Report akabula June 16, 2017 11:30 PM BST
Laugh DrC.
Report akabula June 16, 2017 11:35 PM BST
slippys back garden
That an euphemism bito?
Report a bitofinterest June 16, 2017 11:59 PM BST
REPORTED
Report olddesperado June 17, 2017 12:05 AM BST
I thought the same bito,  be more careful Grin
Report a bitofinterest June 17, 2017 12:17 AM BST
Blush
Report Whisperingdeath June 17, 2017 4:33 AM BST
I am not usually rude to you CrippenWink!

I'll be nice and loving today I promise!
Report Blackrock June 17, 2017 10:29 AM BST
Slippy - my dad took me to a pub in Brixton, about 1976 i reckon.

One bar was frequented by blacks only, the other bar by whites only. If a black man went into the white bar, he was served alright, but at 3 times the cost of the black bar.
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE June 17, 2017 2:05 PM BST
So if a white bloke went in the black bar could he get a pint for 1/3 the cost of the white bar?
Report Ovalman. June 17, 2017 2:08 PM BST
Surely we're past all this?
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE June 17, 2017 2:45 PM BST
I'm upset that I missed out on 33p pints.Cry
Report ufcdan June 17, 2017 3:49 PM BST
Back in the day I think it was more dangerous for a Blackman to walk into a white pub than the other way round, I'm talking 70s and 80s.
Report casemoney June 17, 2017 4:33 PM BST
Had Black guys drinking in Pubs where I went ,Didnt see any problems TBH
Report ufcdan June 17, 2017 4:48 PM BST
A lot more blatant racism in those days casemoney
Report casemoney June 17, 2017 5:09 PM BST
Was late 70s and 80 s Dan  Did once see a Black bloke attacked by some big wxnker in a Pub in fulham .He hit the Guy over the head with a walking Stick Sad Not sure whaT IT WAS ABOUT TBH .
Report moisok June 17, 2017 5:16 PM BST
whispering - I have dined in notting and of course portobello has been visited several times

I went in a 60s/70s style vintage clothes shop with a 'hey man' geezer running it

it stank of THE baccy   ha ha!!!
Report Charlie June 17, 2017 7:00 PM BST
Been drinking in pubs for 50 years and never come across a totally racist one. Been in many which were predominantly white and blacks have been there and vice versa but never seen any trouble down to that. Footy pubs a completely different experience. Wrong colours, wrong accent, wrong clothes, order a pint the wrong way, look at somebody the wrong and all hell can break loose.
Report Whisperingdeath June 17, 2017 7:13 PM BST
It is a good neighbourhood moises,plenty of good pubs and restaurants.

Great place for a drink. Most people are friendly whatever walk of life they inhabit. Mrs 'Death doesn't like to frequent the pubs in the Northern half of Portobello Road becuase she thinks they are too chavvy but I am from Gillingham so they are what I am used to. Just can't be doing with Beach Blanket Babylon and Cocktails!

The only problem I have in W10 is in some of the so called " posher " pubs I find some people have no class and think they should get served before anyone else who has been waiting since before they came in. It really annoys me. I mean I usually save my vitriol for for racists but it does get my goat when people push in. I hold my tongue when with the missus but I have let one or two know what I think. I don't like to punch people, I am not very good at it either, however, if you come from Gillingham you do have to at least pretend you are a viscious thug or people take liberties. I can do that quite well until the fist's start flying and although I float like a butterfly I also punch like one or as my mates say like a girl, well maybe not as hard as a Chatham girl!
Report moisok June 17, 2017 7:18 PM BST
someone once said I drive like a girl ha ha!!!   sexist sexist sexist

I will log your advice and will attempt to do a few in the area.
Report Whisperingdeath June 17, 2017 7:38 PM BST
I drink at the Walmer Castle in Ledbury Road and the Prince Bonarparte in Chepstow Road.
Report Whisperingdeath June 17, 2017 7:38 PM BST
Food is good almost everywhere!
Report Dr Crippen June 17, 2017 9:23 PM BST
Black Swan.
Black Horse.
Black Pig.
Black Cat.
Black Dog.
Black Pudding.
Rose and Crown.
Report Capt__F June 17, 2017 10:24 PM BST
Dr Black
Report olddesperado June 17, 2017 10:42 PM BST
Anyway glad its a thing of the past now.

Just been watching it was all right in the 70s and the racism of the time was shocking,

Personally i think the racism card is used too much these days which just dilutes the real genuine racism issues but the 70s were shocking in hindsight.

Mainstream tv sitcoms were probably the worst looking at this,  people would be arrested if it was today.
Report thegiggilo June 17, 2017 10:46 PM BST
Wouldn't want to go in some of the pubs where i live if you were of different colour in one of the quietest and apparently politest towns in the country,many pubs are full of EDF and EBF scum there are 100s of them even in the quaint town where i live...Shocked
Report Dr Crippen June 17, 2017 11:03 PM BST
Calling people scum doesn't makes you the same as them.
Report Dr Crippen June 17, 2017 11:06 PM BST
Hang what did I write there?

Should have been;

Calling people scum makes you the same as them.
Report Dr Crippen June 17, 2017 11:13 PM BST
It wasn't racism olddesperado.

Racism is much worse than making a joke out of the differences between people.

In the show Love Thy Neighbour, it was the white bloke who came out worst. 

It was the same with most of the shows, the bigot was always on the sharp end of the jokes.
Report olddesperado June 17, 2017 11:20 PM BST
Well then iwar in the  70s was very cleverly edited to show just the shocking bit and cue the shocked celeb going oh my god.

It was still racism as we know it today but it was from a different time where people werent as easily offended.
Report Whisperingdeath June 17, 2017 11:24 PM BST
Where do you live gigglo?
Report thegiggilo June 17, 2017 11:46 PM BST
A very conservative town Shrewsbury,great place to live but still full of load of idiots can't imagine how many of these
scum bags are in the bigger towns and citys must be 10s of thousandsShocked,i know alot of them in their 50s and 60s think they own the town and drag all the youngsters into it as well.
Report Dr Crippen June 18, 2017 12:04 AM BST
You must get around a lot thegigilo, what have you done a survey of all the pubs in Shrewsbury?

You sure you're not making it all up?
Report thegiggilo June 18, 2017 12:12 AM BST
The EBF are quite reknowned and are members of the EDF,there's even been a documentary on tv naming them i've known most of them for 25 years,still dong the same things they were doing 30 years ago.I used to drink in these pubs when i was younger so i could probably name 200 of themShockedand they were and probably still are the main siurce odf drug dealing.
Report thegiggilo June 18, 2017 12:40 AM BST
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1950341-5-most-dangerous-fanbases-in-engl...



Cry
Report Whisperingdeath June 18, 2017 4:25 AM BST
I am going to give this a miss. Unfortunately I am not going to be able to watch the game so despite my view that Inida will win convincingly also have a nagging feeling it might be Pakistan's " turn ". I'd rather enjoy the game for what it is than worry about F and C. That is a sorry state of affairs but that is how I feel about it and that is all I got to say about that!
Report Paddy Hair June 18, 2017 8:55 AM BST
Slippy , I know you have a similar heritage to myself. But in my Dad's day the Blacks drank in the Irish pubs, the only place they could get a decent pint of Guinness. My Dad had loads of West Indian friends, back in the days from Boarding Houses having signs saying " No Blacks, No Irish No Dogs." In Leicester there used to be a big bond between the Irish and the West Indians, lived in the same areas went to the same pubs. I am talking late 60's and the 70's.
Report LAMBETH WALK June 18, 2017 9:27 AM BST
giggsy.... the name of shrewsburys ground.. Gay meadow... is a clue to their mob LaughLaugh

back in the 80,s there were loads of pubs with black/white bars in south east london... heres a few i used ...

at least 2 in Deptford... the osborne arms... the centurion...

Catford/Lewisham .... the plough and harrow.... blythe hill tavern... the dartmouth ... the george...,the anchor

Sydenham .... the man of kent

Forest Hill .... the st germains

there were loads more in peckham...camberwell.. brixton ... new x   ... basically most black/white areas..... i did like a drink back then WinkCool
Report Dr Crippen June 18, 2017 9:34 AM BST
giggsy.... the name of shrewsburys ground.. Gay meadow... is a clue to their mob LaughLaugh

So what's wrong with being gay in this day and age?

You sound worse than the organisations the thegiggilo is slagging off.
Report LAMBETH WALK June 18, 2017 9:37 AM BST
I AM WORSE **** OFF
Report Dr Crippen June 18, 2017 9:44 AM BST
^^Lol

I didn't expect that.
Report LAMBETH WALK June 18, 2017 9:49 AM BST
you love it Laugh
Report ufcdan June 18, 2017 9:54 AM BST
Giggilo............fu cking Shrewsbury Angry I got fined £300 and £300 bound over to keep the peace for two years back in the late seventies. Which was a lot of money back then Sad
Report LAMBETH WALK June 18, 2017 9:59 AM BST
hooligan
Report ufcdan June 18, 2017 10:00 AM BST
Not now, not with my knees Sad
Report LAMBETH WALK June 18, 2017 10:02 AM BST
talking of pubs... too nice to sit indoors today .. a pub crawl in Blackheath is on the cards Cool
Report ufcdan June 18, 2017 10:05 AM BST
I know a few fellas from that neck of the woods. Enjoy your day mate Wink
Report LAMBETH WALK June 18, 2017 10:06 AM BST
north stand boys Wink   adiosCool
Report ufcdan June 18, 2017 10:13 AM BST
LaughWe're all mad in the head, we're the North stand, not the shed Wink laters Wink
Report Ghetto Joe June 18, 2017 12:15 PM BST
When I lived in Nunhead in the early 90's  me and a mate regularly used those black pubs in Peckham because they always served late into the night. Never had any problems in their whatsoever despite being the only pissed white faces in the pub. I remember the  Breakspears Arms in Brockly used to have a white half and black half like a lot of the south London pubs but never any hassle if you went in the wrong half.
Report thegiggilo June 18, 2017 3:39 PM BST
You won't see any black people,asian or any other ethnicity in s'bury the simple fact is you won't see them in any pubs in the whole town just not worth the hassle...
Report thegiggilo June 18, 2017 3:39 PM BST
You won't see any black people,asian or any other ethnicity in s'bury the simple fact is you won't see them in any pubs in the whole town just not worth the hassle...
Report TommyBarnes June 18, 2017 5:26 PM BST
Back in the 90s I was mates with a guy from s'bury who said he never drank in the pubs back home as at the time they were full of blokes who wanted to kick off who called themselves The Border Defence League. If there were no Welsh to scrap with then they would look to have a rumble with Telford BDL members instead.  He was a shrew born and bred but was chased out of a pub for being a sheeps#gger because he and his mates were watching rugby in the pub! The game wasn't even union it was GB v Aus circa 94/95 Rugby League, he said it was because Jonathan Davies was playing for GB Crazy
Report thegiggilo June 18, 2017 5:38 PM BST
Probably earlier than 84..
Report thegiggilo June 18, 2017 5:38 PM BST
Probably earlier than 84..
Report kincsem June 18, 2017 7:59 PM BST
thought thread was about pubes.  very disappoint
Report Whisperingdeath June 18, 2017 10:02 PM BST
Anyone go to Corks Wine bar in Binney Street in the 80's?

Some of our racist friend on here would hate it.
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