Theresa May must resign, surely?

Agreed Louis.The woman is a total shambles.Trying to kid us on her obvious u turn regarding the social care issue did it for me.The sooner she goes the better.I voted for the Tories but through gritted teeth.

None of the others want what at the moment is a poisoned chalice. May will be kept on at the moment but others will be pulling the strings now.

Bloody Difficult Woman

... to drag kicking and screaming from #10

Probably not so bloody difficult in brexit negs

Jun 9, 2017 -- 10:51AM, salmon spray wrote:

None of the others want what at the moment is a poisoned chalice. May will be kept on at the moment but others will be pulling the strings now.

Exactly salmon, she will cosy up to the DUP and go to the Queen to form a government. After that it's game over for her. imo.

Having said that politics have never been so unpredictable in my lifetime, she could be gone by lunchtime .

her brand was well holed even before the vote,she cant get up in the commons now and carry the farce on

boris laughing his head off

Anyone who thinks Boris will improve Tory fortunes is deluded.

Trump and Boris.

Now, there is a thought.

hopefully boris would be like the orange thing in the states.epople cant see how fckn awful they are till their in the kitchen

Snap.

how he dodged the sh** from the garden bridge farce fck knows

Jun 9, 2017 -- 12:17PM, cardifffc wrote:

boris laughing his head off

He could well be, but if so he's also laughing at us. Boris just like most in Westminster is concerned primarily with his own career path,  running the country comes a poor second.

'In April Theresa May revealed how she hatched plans for a snap general election during a walking holiday in Snowdonia.'

Well, that's the last time Theresa May goes walking in Snowdonia !

Had to laugh at Jezza this morning saying that May had to go - This coming from the man who clung on even after 172 of his own MP's voted no confidence in him!

Next election - Corbyn still there and he lost.

May gone and she won.

It's easy to see why the Tories stay in power for such long periods.

Crippen and Spiv culture

Manifesto u-turns, ducking out of debates, being so out of touch that she thought the Election could be fought on Brexit. What little credibility she had at the start of the campaign was soon lost.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-may-vows-to-govern-for-next-...

Looks like her make up done by an embalmer

Jun 9, 2017 -- 12:56PM, Dr Crippen wrote:

Next election - Corbyn still there and he lost.May gone and she won.It's easy to see why the Tories stay in power for such long periods.

yep lemmings

'Tory insiders now saying that they've lost every marginal constituency that Theresa May has visited '

No wonder she didn't go on TV !

Betfair have still not paid out on the next prime minister market

I had a fantastic position on this with anyone of the favourites to replace her all very healthily green and david davies on £1313 but I still could not fathom why theresa was still trading at around evens.  I didn't want to cash out and lose my big bets so stayed up until 7am but still the market refused to change.  So I did some trading so that theresa still earned me £100 and went to sleep.  When I got up all excited theresa was 1.11 approx

As she goes along it's just been all "maydup" by her

As bad as she is what can the Tories do?
Sack her and elect a new leader and carry on? Cries of no mandate.
Sack her and appoint a new leader and go to the polls for a mandate?
Keep her and involve other parties in Brexit as suggested?
Is a certainty she'll go but when is suitable?

She will be removed at the earliest opportunity.
Ideally new leader should be in place by the conference in Sepember

But brexit talks  starts next week.

Theresa May failed the job interview in every sense. Her whole campaign was a sh1tshow. All her vulnerabilities were exposed and she needs to go...... but the timing couldn't be much worse with the Brexit clock running. What do we need to do ??  How ??

May is a laughing stock and seriously weakens our credibility in Brexit talks.

But who would want to take over her mess?

Boris and Gove have to take some responsibility had they not turned on each other it may of been different. Both should of carried on with the leadership campaign, had there been head to heads and debates maybe TMs frailties would of maybe come to light.

Ignoring that p1ssing hundreds of millions of the country's money up the wall and ceasing brexit process for a couple of months apparently isn't an act for which one resigns .... surely in the old days, the tory party would have had a removal van outside #10 on friday morning and a queue of potential successors fighting amongst themselves to be the first to stick the knife in.  Don't the current tories have any pride ? Or spine ?

I've heard people saying there isn't anyone better to take over - they've surely got to be joking.  Potentially worse PMs than the last two they've inflicted on us ?  That doesn't seem possible

Due to his name, looks and accent he wouldn't go down well with the British public but Jacob Rees-Mogg would be my preferred choice

As a Labour supporter Jacob would be my choice as well     

Sneaky

You're being DUPed

May's working majority I believe will be 14 thanks to the DUP seats plus the SNP not turning up at Westminster.

Remainers took a big hit with the SNP losing 40% of seats and Lib Dems gaining just 4. Both parties made 'Remain' front and centre of their campaign.

Labour are now stronger and hopefully more stable. Corbyn has vowed to see Brexit go through according to the will of the people. The suggestion that all Labour MPs will oppose May in Brexit talks is incorrect. Many are Leavers and the rest are hopefully democrats.

May is still PM with most overall votes and seats. Labour lost, SNP were trounced and Farron's EU REf #2 is dead.

Onwards and upwards.

they voted for HER this time. Before it was Cameron.

called an election when she said she wouldn't,when there was no need,said all the wrong things to the very people who would vote for the tories,the result is ( on purpose)? a much,much weaker hand for a deal for brexit, don't be surprised if the government called for a 2nd vote on it come autumn just like the danes did

it's a few more than that. the speaker and his 3 deputies are obviously non runners in terms of votes too

The only concrete difference between Labour and Conservatives on Brexit is the customs union, I think the DUP also want to stay in it? so that idea will probably be scrapped but I don't see any reason for a second vote or evidence that support for leaving has changed. A lot of UKIP used to say they took more support from Labour than the Tories and it looks like they were right.

only the fact her hand has been weakened now and the men in black suit know that

EU laughing at Theresa but it's no laughing matter to keep avoiding the fact that she's lost credibility. Has nobody in her party got the balls to tell her?

£1.5 billion bribe to DUP, strong & stable with a long term economic plan. (courtesy of Baldrick Cunning Plans Inc.)

Did Corbyn not use bribery on the foolish minded young folk, to  gain enough votes to make this alliance necessary?

Excellent point Saddo, you've got him there. £11bn that free tuition bribe was going to cost.

Lets see if the Spivs keep their word about Austerity ending for all the UK

Easier for Corbyn though, he knows he won't have to honour his promises.

Wont be long , its only a matter of time

No matter what May or the Tories do, the only answer from the blind support on here, is to have a go about Corbyn.
Can she do no wrong?

The "bribery on foolish minded young folk" as you stupidly put it, is a return to free education that generations enjoyed, as well as being something Corbyn voted for, including against the Blair government. Added to which despite what has been spread in the Media. It wasn't only young people who voted Labour. The tipping point, that is the age at which a voter is more likely to have voted Conservative than Labour, is now 47 – up from 34 at the start of the campaign.

£11 Billion (or probably less) of money which could have been diverted back to the population from say, HS2 or Nuclear weaponry, or bombing Syria.

No money for anything but £100 million per DUP MP just to stay in power. MAY did this, not Corbyn.

So, without deflecting, is she wrong to do so or not?
Don't answer with a Corbyn rant. Just simply, is May right or wrong?

Not expecting any straight answer to a straight question.

Five more years of Conservative government. The Marxists can stick their red flag where the sun don't shine.

Not agreeing with the current crop of Tories doesn't make someone a Marxist.

And what Conservative Policies will they get through ?

100 seat Mandate she cried
No her overall majority died

Agreeing with McDonnell and his little red book from Chairman Mao probably does.

Come on what tory policies are going to get through parliament ? please tell us we are waiting

A lame duck PM drags the dispirited rabble along cobbling a deal here and there , throwing a bilion or 2 to anybody that might help her

Studyform, she is wrong, and brought this on all of us through a needless punt, I said so as soon as she called the election. I wouldn't trust, applaud or vote any one of em, they all had their hands in the till not long ago. As for free education, it still is for most. The poliversities are full of people who would be better off learning a skill or trade, they will never pay back their loans. Wasting money on third rate degrees is questionable I think.

Cheer up anxious, you'll get used to it.

I probably agree with most of that, saddo.
I would reduce the number of Universities which were created in the 80's and bring back career based stuff too!

None of which detracts from now being under the worst Prime Minister I have ever seen.

So that means none doesnt it Foinavon ?

I can't remember a good un with hindsight.

We will have to wait and see, anxious, I don't have a crystal ball.

Its a pointless exercise , she displays breathtaking arragonce in her quest for a 80-100 majority and ends up cobbling together an arrangement with the DUP , its shambolic and humiliating

I'll agree with that too!

*saddo

She shouldn't have taken the risk, that's easy to see with hindsight but she has gained two extra years for her party whether she leads it for that time or not. Corbyn will be rather old by then and I suspect he will give way to McDonnell before the next election.

69 he will be , Trump is 71 and he is still at it

McDonnell will never be Labour leader

There again we will have to wait and see. I hope he remains in good health for the foreseeable future. I bear him no malice.

Who do you think will eventually succeed him?

I thought Corbyn will be 73 in 2022?

We share the same birthday, 26th May but I am older than him.
He should be OK at 73 but has to consider that if elected he will be in power until aged 78.
Would he be able to maintain the pace and powers of concentration required to do the job?

Churchill was prime minister when he was 80, Gladstone 84, iirc.

Most of them were in their 60's

Corbyn is 68, 68 + 5 = 69   any shadow Home Secretary can work that out

Mugabe is 91 and still at it

You don't come across as being 70 something Foinavon, I thought you were much younger. I mean that as a compliment by the way, you're clearly one of the intelligent ones on here.

Although I can remember Churchill as PM during the 1950s, I wasn't aware of what sort of a job he was making of it. Probably delegated everything apart from big decisions.

Chomper!

That's kind of you to say so, Torquemada.
Fortunately, I'm still sound in body and mind.

It depends how Labour do in the next election , if they were to  win obviously McDonnell chance would higher one thinks , but im not sure he that popular within the membership , certainly not popular as Jeremy

Somebody might come through Dan Jarvis on the moderates wing maybe

Keir Starmer or maybe Lisa Nandy ,

Yes, that's what I think too. Perhaps someone charismatic will rise through the ranks.
I was looking for insider information as I seem to remember that you successfully predicted that Corbyn would be elected as leader when his odds were long.

Diane Abbott?

I won't be putting money her even if she's a runner.

Yep Jonathon Haworth is one to watch , done well as shadow Health secretary , 40-1 i think available

You're right, Diane is probably down to be Chancellor.

Thanks, anxious, I'll keep an eye on him.

Ashworth sorry

Jonathon Ashworth , freudian slip

OK

Torquemada :)

So if Jeremy wins the next election he stays. If he doesn't then he goes? What if labour believe they have won again ? Just not when you count up the number of MPs they have in parliament. Which as we all know is bye the bye.

Corbyn and McDonnell tried to bribe electorate, potential borrowing £500 billion (McDonnell's estimate).
Tories find an extra billion for Northern Ireland? Doesn't even register on the McDonnell scale.

Tories find an extra billion for Northern Ireland?

Any idea where they found it? Was it in their 'long term economic plan' cupboard?