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FBI warned M15 in January that Abedi planned to attack Britain.

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By:
akabula
When: 28 May 17 20:47
Not sure how sophisticated the tags are but it would I hope give us some more info on them.
Right now we do nowt and don't have the resources to 'shadow' them.
Only other option is physically restricting them with imprisonment.
By:
akabula
When: 28 May 17 20:49
I sure have moisok after taking your advice.
I'd now cut their legs off.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 28 May 17 20:49
What's the solution?

I've gave 100% solution that protects human rights for the majority.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 28 May 17 20:53
It will have to get a lot worse before anything meaningful is done to stop it.
Especially when we have people like Andy Burnham saying it shouldn't be called Islamic terrorism. He want's to call it something else.
People like him won't even admit that the religion is at the heart of the problem.
By:
bongo
When: 28 May 17 21:13
I think Ovalman is on to something. I wouldn't vote for it, but it's far from the least bad option.

Consider this - with 1 exception, afaik every terrorist attack here has fitted the following

Male - so not woman
Working Age - so no pensioners
Nominally Sunni - Shia and Ahmadi communities are good people, certainly in the UK
Criminal record - often something petty like shoplifting, but criminal record none the less
Travelled abroad to a Sunni region
Second generation - so born here to at least one parent born abroad

You can't change where someone was born, or what beliefs they have. You could go for internment till aged 65, but it would cost. But one thing you can change is the amount of male hormones in someone's veins.
If your local prison advertised for a job of castrator, say the rate of pay was £10 a nut, would you apply?
By:
bongo
When: 28 May 17 21:14
It's one of the least bad options - doh.
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 21:17
NO NO  Ballet is the answer.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 28 May 17 21:46
Andrew Marr show today.

Both Diane Abbott and Amber Rudd on.

One of them will be Home Secretary after the election.

Neither mentioned any religion at all in their interviews on future policies.

They danced around closing the secure internet and control orders.

But no mention as to how to stop the real root causes.
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 21:49
I am getting sick of this RAY CYST attitude. Now police are taking dogs into muslim houses.  How disrespectful is that.
Next they will force them to take them in taxis.

I am offended.
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 21:50
ps it is not a religion

please refer to history
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 28 May 17 21:58
yeh ur right the police shouldnt be allowed to take a sniffer dog in a muslims house....
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 22:03
what you do is undermine the police's authority, hegemony, trust etc

change their parameters and philosophy

then go ahead with your programme

rather clever

remember - 'get used to living in Landan' and other statements

all part of it
By:
Hank Hill
When: 28 May 17 22:07
FBI may well have warned the UK, but it is obvious that our security services are way underfunded for the amount of threats we have now. The FBI do get things wrong too - remember the California pair?
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 22:12
UNDERFUNDING is not the problem

it is direction towards dealing with it

no one dare

too many votes to be risked

Would you upset them?
By:
Hank Hill
When: 28 May 17 22:20
I certainly would, but them I'm not trying to get elected...
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 22:24
do you not think it is a huge over reaction

it plays straight into the hands of the 'authorities' to close down any
opposition and critique

they knew where the problem would be coming from but have
steadfastly ignored it

despite all the rhetoric

3 million votes at risk
By:
detraveller
When: 28 May 17 23:02
If this news is true, then it almost complets all the things i said on the day of the incident.

Lives lost. Check.
Compare how different media report the story. Check.
Vigils and 'we are strong' crap. Check.
Blame Islam and Muslims and not ask the govt any questions. Check.
Bomber already known or on the radar. Check.

Let's wait till the next one hits and repeat the cycle. And while we are waiting, lets continue blaming Islam for all our troubles and not even bother about what our own givt does both at home and abroad.
By:
moisok
When: 28 May 17 23:06
apologist ignores where it is coming from

off you go with your conspiracies
By:
detraveller
When: 28 May 17 23:13
I said all the above things will happen and the did(except the Eiffel tower didnt light up unfortunately)

And when the next one hits, and we repeat the same cycle, i'll let you know again.
By:
Steamship
When: 28 May 17 23:45
I agree to a point detraveller as I feel ther must be this is what somebody wants, however that aside I think the figure is 3,000 that the security forces are watching so no big statement needs to be made just simply some disappear every week, many people go missing every week and I'm sure there are people who can make this happen whilst leaving no evidence.

By the way if this is my last post then you know they got me.
By:
detraveller
When: 29 May 17 00:04
Its more like 3000 people that can be used to convince the people more wars are necessary. The best part about islamic extremism for weapons manufacturers is that the person responsible for an attack is dead. No one can ask any questions. Its been clear with the reaction of the people that they just wont blame the govt for anyhing, even after they've been bombarded with over a million refugees. People have aready accepted army on the streets is a necessity. I dont know what the next step is but it will definitely have something to do with more military action.

But hey that's all conspiracy theories. Let's just continue talking about how Islam wants to kill us all(with our weapons actually, since our weapons exports go mostly to them)
By:
moisok
When: 29 May 17 00:12
does anyone believe this agenda or narrative we are being fed?  Resistance to terror by running around the place or getting tatoos.  I guess that must be really striking back against terror.  Silly silly people.

They have let it happen and it continues.  It could have been stopped a long time ago but they need 3 million votes.  They certainly cannot afford to upset them
By:
detraveller
When: 29 May 17 00:31
Of course people believe everything they are fed. How do you think they agree to fight wars not remotely related to the protection of their countries?
By:
detraveller
When: 29 May 17 00:53
I was reading yesterday that since 2010, two thirds of UK's weapons exports go to Middle Eastern countries. A region that represents 11% of muslim population, 66% of UK weapons export, and probably a higher percentage of revenue for weapons manufacturers. And this is the stuff that is public only. Imagine what happens secretly between the governments.

But the public is kept busy with a suicide bomber. The govt told you who he was. The govt told you why he did it. The govt will tell you how to stop or not stop it. And the day you decide to do something about it, it will be at the order of the govt for the govt.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 May 17 10:26
Did Theresa May know of the advance warning from the USA?
By:
learner
When: 31 May 17 09:43
there is no doubt that provocation is a part of terrorist attacks , for insance i have little doubt in saying that 9/11 was scoring an own goal by the u.s.a. how far this can be taken is guess  work
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 May 17 09:46
Saudi Arabia conveniently ignored by the knockers.
By:
terry mccann
When: 31 May 17 10:08
trump loves saying about "the beautiful babys the beautiful children " who have been killed or maimed by bombs recently in parts of Europe which of course is right.
but then he goes on the sell $350BILLION to the killing machine of babies and children that is Saudi Arabia???
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 May 17 10:12
Wink As do we tel, Cry.
By:
terry mccann
When: 31 May 17 10:27
I'm on a warning so no commentWink
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 May 17 10:28
WinkWink
By:
moisok
When: 31 May 17 14:38
you think it is bad to be censored on a tiny little gambling forum

you can't even discuss these issues on the freedom paper

you know the one

the radical one that looks after feminist issues

but won't open a single comment page on the issue

yet other papers seem quite happy

what are they scared of?  After all many women and girls were hurt or killed??
By:
saddo
When: 01 Jun 17 22:39
All this bad press seems to have sparked plod into shaking the tree. Doors blown in and arrests, Sheffield/Huddersfield.
By:
GoOnThen
When: 01 Jun 17 22:43
Not before time either. Questions need answering, I mean.. Huddersfield in the premiership? Something not right there.
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 01 Jun 17 22:46
pigs in blankets been sold in June as well -come on its sacred to xmas day - was shocked when I had a look in the freezer tonight wiv missus out on the lash ShockedShockedLaughLaugh
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