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OK, so individuals are doing a bit of contraband exchange? That is entirely different from the state-sponsored sale of weapons in exchange for oil you claimed to exist ten minutes ago.
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*his neighbours--picks a row for the sake of it
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You have to understand the mindset of those in power and the hundreds of hangers on and thousands of officials in Iran, they couldn't care where the money comes from.
Who do they fear? not their own people, not muslim terrorists of a different part of the same religion No they fear America and the West, and its ideas, and freedoms |
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That is why they will fund and support any terrorist group that is anti America, and the west.
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Again, no they won't. The Iranian State does not support or fund ISIS, nor does it allow its proxies to do so. You are quite wrong on this.
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The man most responsible for fostering the unexpected relationship was an Iranian Imad Mughniyeh, he commanded a vast terror network that included Hezbollah, Al Queada, Hamas and many others
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You've been on the Fox News website again haven't you?
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He provided support services to Al Queada money, technology etc , the predecessor to the Islamic state
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Not even Fox news would publish **** like this.
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Iran are very subtle and devious, those in power are concerned with one thing, they knew after what happened to saddam America was the greatest threat to that power.
That is why they were prepared to support any terrorist group in order to frustrate any chance of America getting a peaceful settlement in Iraq That is how it works, they are playing the west for fools by using this shia smokescreen |
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forget about Iran being shia, their goal is not to have the same fate as Saddam.
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I'm sorry mate, but you are talking nonsense, and given how convinced you appear of your own rectitude I see no point in continuing this conversation.
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I`m convinced of one thing, there is no difference between the dictators in Iran, and the dictator that was in Iraq
no difference at all. |
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money is a funny thing, wallets can establish connections and change peoples opinions of a different religion and sect, and form strange alliances.
This is the story of Iran. |
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lfc. You are right about Iran funding Assad,Hezbollah and Hamas. Assad is the other main Shia leader in the Middle East. The other groups are Shia and have mainly been anti-Israel because they support the Arabs living in Palestine against the Israelis and pro-Assad because the groups opposing him,not just ISIS,are mainly Sunni. As you keep being told it was the Saudis and Yemenis who supported Al-Quaeda and then ISIS which are Sunni groups. The Shia/Sunni split is as toxic as the Protestant/Catholic split was in Europe in the 16th and 17th centuries.
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yes salmon, people should remember a very old saying in relation to Iran and the terrorist groups it supports
My enemy's enemy is my friend The would finance and help anything that they felt was any America and the west That is what has been happening in this region Iran does not fear a different sect if Muslim terrorist , it will help it if it destabilises America's goal In Iraq and anywhere else . |
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They saw saddam hanging from the gallows and knew they must not allow the same thing to happen to them
This overrides everything else |
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it flies in the face of all known facts to link the wave of terrorist actocities since 9/11 on the shia,
who most usually been its target |
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speaking last week before the house foreign affairs committee,Rex Tillerson said Washington will support efforts of a regime change in Iran.
Tehran officially delivered a note of protest to the UN. |
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Fu ck me you wouldn't know "The Judean people's front" from the "People's front of Judea"
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aint nothing funny here boy
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Oh come it's a blast......or soon wil be
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yes indeed and IS will love it
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Quite amazing how Israel hasn't got any blame in all this !
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yep they are also up to their necks in it
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what have Israel done?
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I wouldn`t be surprised if Israel wanted to do destroy the Iranian regime who could blame them?
anyone know what they have done? |
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The US has always had a special hatred for Iran which has nothing to do with the terrorist threat it poses. It started when the US puppet the Shah was ousted - then there was the US embassy humiliations including the rescue attempt debacle. More recently there was the US Navy "gap year" sailors who were taken hostage from their boat and forced to appear on TV. The humiliations never seem to end. On top of all this Iran has the cheek to sell lots of oil to China.
Then of course you have the Saudis who hate Iran with a passion, a nasty regime if ever there was one, who can do whatever they like including 9/11 and trying to ruin the US fracking industry - it's OK as long as they keep buying US arms. |
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when lfc watches films about WWII he's never sure who to root for.
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"Something extraordinary has happened in Washington,President Donald Trump has made it clear,in no uncertain terms and with no effect to disguise his duplicity,that he will claim that Tetran is cheating on the nuclear deal by October-the facts be damned.
in short the fix is in,Trump will refuse to accept that Iran is in compliance and thereby set the stage for a military confrontation,his advisors have been kind enough to explain how they will go about this.rarely has a sinister plan to destroy an arms control agreement and pave the way for war been so openly telegraphed". |
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I thought he was against the deal? At least thats what he was on about most of the time during his campaign? If they are cheating on it should make him happy.
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"facts be damned" which is saying they are going in whatever the truth-v uncool
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poor detraveller is not capable of logical thought. Trump was against the deal because the deal was a bad deal because Iran would not stick to the deal and it was not possible to verify the deal.
So that doesn't mean that Trump should be happy, it just means he was right. |
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thanks lfc.
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they have stuck to the deal,why do you say they have not?
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the deal was in place to stop Iran financing and supporting terrorism and to stop its nuclear programme and America would stop its sanctions and buy its uranium etc at great cost to America, Iran is not complying with this.It was a bad deal because they will not comply
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The US cannot run the entire world. The sooner they realize it, the better. They may never run out of patriotic people that are willing to fight for them. But if they are indeed willing to take on North Korea and Iran(looks like only rough talking to me), it is playing with nuclear fire. Good luck to them and the European troops who will go to fight alongside them, but there's never going to be a winner or a loser. All major empires fall of their own weight but still each one of them think they are never gonna go down.
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It is possible for America to run the world, Britain was able to do so for 400 years.
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That was a good thing, because it was Britain.
who could deny that? |
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Yes lfc, my point is it eventually breaks you. What's left of Britain? Its a different debate I know but the people Britain ruled for hundreds of years have eaten it from the inside. You aren't safe in your own capital now so what was the point of ruling the world? At some point it becomes too much. One step too many. I would love to see America vs Iran/NK. In my short life, that will be at least a better matchup than what ive seen so far.
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