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Whilst I agree about Abbott (who couldn't?)
Labour are evidently shambolic and no longer the party best representing British workers. The evidence being consistent negative press for the past 3 years (or longer)? As a British worker, I feel far more represented by what I have seen and heard from Corbyn then by anything the Tories have (or mostly haven't) said. As for links being widely known, they've been blown out of proportion by a government supporting press so as to create a feeling of fear among potential voters. I'm more concerned about an actual Tory councillor was was an ACTUAL member of the IRA and trying to kill as many British people as she could. I'm also concerned about all the secret and other meetings attended by government and others from all parties which haven't been made into news 30 or 40 years later for propaganda purposes. |
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It's called dragging the dirt on your opponents.
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Still at least we have a sense of balance with the shadow cabinet thanks to Diane Abbott "Every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us" you couldn't fu cking make it up
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there are good things in the Labour manifesto. and the conservative manifesto is a disaster.
but I could never vote for Corbyn because he is a republican and anti- British and supports the IRA. |
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I can't vote for any of them they are all unsuited to the job.
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Diane Abbott is (in every way possible) Corbyn's biggest mistake.
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' ........One of the most commonly occurring personal attack points that right-wingers use against Jeremy Corbyn is that he openly talked to the IRA in the 1980s and '90s.
The problem with this right-wing narrative (like with so many other right-wing narratives) is that it's totally undermined by facts and reality. These people know that Corbyn talked to the IRA because he did it openly, but at the very same time Corbyn was openly talking to the IRA the political establishment were conducting secret backdoor deals with them. - In 1972 the Tory government of Edward Heath conducted secret negotiations with the IRA. The truth was only revealed in 2003. - Margaret Thatcher always used to insist that she did not negotiate with terrorists, but in 2011 declassified documents revealed that that's exactly what she did. She negotiated with the IRA in 1981 during the hunger strikes, and the documents detailing the negotiating position of the UK government even featured annotations in her handwriting! - Thatcher also gave her personal approval to secret talks with the IRA in 1990 too. So much for her not negotiating with terrorists rhetoric eh? - In 1993 the revelation that John Major's government had been conducting secret talks with the IRA created a huge political scandal, with several Tory MPs (who were clearly unaware of Thatcher's secret talks with the IRA) reacting with horror at the revelation that the not negotiating with terrorists line was a total lie. - In 2008 it was revealed that the UK government maintained a secret back channel to talk with the IRA for two decades all the way from 1973 and 1993. - From 1997 onward Tony Blair's government conducted negotiations with the IRA that eventually led to the Good Friday Agreement, the power-sharing deal and the successful deescalation of the troubles. During this process Tony Blair had secret talks with the IRA in 1999. - In 2010 an Tory peer called David James openly admitted that he had a history of secretly laundering money for the IRA. He still sits in the unelected House of Lords as a Tory peer!.....' |
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Facts the people you mention were in power at the time. What Jeremy Corbyn said or thought was irrelevant. Still if he thinks it does some good I'll happily pay or his airfare to go to Syria to reason with ISIS
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Corbyn needs a reality check, the IRA caused great harm on innocent people, to refuse to condemn the bleeding obvious is putting ideology before reality.
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Given how long ago it was will the IRA mean anything to young voters or that Corbyn held talks with them ?
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Corbyn squirming on BBC 1 right now, PATHETIC!!
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It's like I always say.
We all see what we want to see. I thought May squirmed much more. Perhaps no-one did, or they both did? |
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Shocking bias and questioning there by Rupert Murdochs lap dog Andrew Tory Neil
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Mind you to be fair Neil is a good interviewer, he gave One Nation Theresa a grilling too.
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On that we agree. ![]() |
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when was the OP banned? thought I hadn't seen him around, maybe he morphed into moisk
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