What have they created - this is disgusting - from the guardian

It's so easy to criticize but when your outside you can't change much within it so you just point the finger and tut.

We re-located the grand total of 5 unaccompanied children last year.


Utterly, utterly shameful.

so bleeding mad doesn't give a toss - thanks for that - how very caring and concerned you must be

neither of you care at all

I couldn't have caught a nastier pair in a net

the sort of people you support have helped to create this

yet all you can do is try to disparage the story and the plight of these people

Children often travel alone to the camps from war zones in Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq,

Eh, children have that capability?

And where are the war zones in Afghanistan and Iraq?

These are large countries why not simply move to another part of the country if there is trouble?

I see from PP's tone that he must surely be about to take in a couple of these poor kids himself.

two of the most uncaring contributors on this forum as long as the facts can be hidden
and not mentioned they are happy


but then we all know why they don't like issues like this being raised don't we?

we know where many of the refugees come from and their customs and culture

ahh, the logic of the far right.

If you show sympathy for the refugees and think your government could do more then you must also be willing to house them personally. Cos that's how it works obviously

Aye, wouldn't want our virtue signalling to actually cost us owt personally, would we.

the government should do more for families from war-torn countries,we can imagine the horrors the yanks and isis do,
my problem is young single men from northern Africa,they should be let nowhere the UK

some don't want the issue raised or debated because it concerns the culture we must not offend

Nearly all those entering Italy are single young men from Africa. Are the yanks doing much bombing ove there?

I remember hearing a radio programme about 25 years ago about how the world would change in the next 100 years and one of the contributors saying that a major problem on the horizon would be the mass movement of people out of Africa into Southern Europe. The solution suggested was a wall

https://twitter.com/VisualCap/status/850078472995295232

This is the problem that the world is facing.

Yes we also had the article written by an Irish Journalist about how
saving the African children from hunger 25/30 years ago has caused
the problem today due to massive overpopulation now in these countries
  Birth control i think is what is needed.

1,810 billionaires - average wealth 3 billion each.

a 7 year old child in Africa digging all day for 20p - filling sacks with clay that contains cobalt. Needed for the new iphone.
Buy it now... the new one... it's reasonably priced. Come on.. the NEW one is out - don't fall behind... get it. Or suffer the laughs of those that have one, while you go without?

My old Nokia still going strong
Work gave me a new Samsung S something or another
it still in the box,yet us idiots still work for peanuts

Religious leaders should give up their insane race to produce the most followers and start advocating birth control and women's rights instead for the good of us all.

(Just remembered the old forumite Willy Heckaslike)

They should be paid less so I can have even cheaper whotsmacallits to talk into.  and listen to.

funny old world isn't it

I have a pile of vinyl in two houses just left in the bottom of cupboards - heaps of it
(an original double album from the Springfields and Frank Ifield single to name but seven!!)
Now I wander into HMV to buy my latest ned sherrin or what ever his name is and I see all these large round things

It's all back in !!!!   I could have saved a fortune instead of buying all these cds!!!

what's with the religious slant on everything Foinavon.

are we going for the zero population BS that the Georgia guide stones are hinting at?

bringing the population of the world below 1 billion.

the ZPG theory started when the population was 3.7 billion. in 1972.
there was no crisis - new strains of wheat covered the gap.
there are huge swaiths of unpopulated land out there.
with the new graphene water filter all the deserts can be clawed back by pumping sea water inland. solving rising water levels?

All this is moot - 4 billion die in revelation. famine, war, pestilence. good luck.

They've pulled out of Facebook. The gruniad that is..

what's with the religious slant on everything Foinavon.

It's quite simple, Zorro.
Religions tell people how to live their lives.
The vast majority of people adhere to some religion or other, the two biggest religions control the attitudes of a large proportion the world's population.
Their leaders call for large families and no contraception.
We are leaving ourselves with little margin for error due to burgeoning populations
especially in poorer countries. Droughts, soil erosion and crop failures happen and are usually beyond human control. Famine, wars and mass migrations are the result with untold human misery in their wake.

PS, you forgot the question mark, matey.

Famine, wars and mass migrations are the result with untold human misery in their wake.

Oh, I nearly forgot, you doom mongers want that don't you?
It prophesies that in your little black book. Bring it on.

ahh, the logic of the far right.

If you show sympathy for the refugees and think your government could do more then you must also be willing to house them personally. Cos that's how it works obviouslyCrazy

I agree to an extent Porky.

It's kind of like the far lefts crazy attitude to personal responsibility.

The belief that unemployment benefit and other various government handouts should be seen as a legitimate lifestyle choice for anyone who lives or wants to live here and anyone who disagrees with them is a cold heartless basteward.

Unfortunately for the Lefties most reasonable people, the real working/middle class,  the silent majority,  the ones that actually work, know that benefits are supposed to be a bridge from a tough short term situation designed to help them achieve, for themselves more prosperity and a better life.

It's a shame really but personal responsibility doesn't seem to exist much in far Left (commie) dogma. This is why they are and will continue to lose.

As Foinavon says "bring it on"

The fallacy that "the far left" believing we should be openly welcoming foreigners to come here and do nothing but take benefits and not contribute in any way.

Not at all true obviously but comforting for "those on the far right" who choose to look solely after themselves and so not feel any guilt about not caring a jot for anyone else.

nearly half a million eu citizens now 'inactive' in this country

clearly xylophoners telling lies - just right wing propaganda

this puts it clearly in its box and not to be repeated as it has no standing what so ever

hope I have cleared this up

Again, you're confusing what is happening with what you think "the far left" want to happen.

I'm certain there are people here abusing the benefits system, of course there are. There are plenty of Brits who do it too so it's bound to happen. I'm sure plenty of ours are abusing the system abroad. C'est la vie. Doesn't make it right. Not at all. But if you were to ban every social policy as soon as a few bad eggs started abusing it then there'd be no social policy at all.

However, a failure of policing doesn't mean a failure of policy. My friend is a truck driver and moans about EU drivers taking his work. What is clear though is that EU rules are clearly in place to protect him and prevent drivers coming here on a job and spending time working their way round the country. The failure is in our law enforcement in tracking and cracking down on it.

As for the half a million, could you send me a link? Wondering how that works. For example, when we lived abroad my wife was a stay at home mum as we strictly didn't need the extra income. We didn't claim any benefits though and wondering if the likes of her would also be called 'inactive'.

As a confused liar I was just contemplating the latest immigrant fraud committed - currently in court.

Just one or two at it of course. I really must stop being naughty and raising these silly little insignificant figures.

Mind you, at a couple of hundred thousand a time it wouldn't take long to build up a considerable amount.

Dewsbury is a peach.  About 3 times as many not working.  But of course this is made up figures by a deranged black shirt.

the truck driving friend is a scorcher. 

there's at least 4 million foreigners working here

many have taken jobs that our youngsters could be involved in

there may be anything between 1.1 and 1.6 million illegals

no one knows - many taking up jobs

17 illegals turned out of a chinese near heathrow last year!!
imagine that country wide!!??

But don't even mention it - it's only a 'few bad eggs'

Again, link please?

You seem keen on picking one friend of mine and 17 Chinese and extrapolating that into hundreds of thousands.

I don't extrapolate. I gave up years ago. I am too old

and you are right it is in fact millions

hope I have clarified the matter

and the link please?

You seem very judgemental and intolerant Porky Pie.

Typical response from a "far left" virtue signalling crybaby that spends FAR to much time on the internet with nothing productive to offer but delusions of superiority bullshit.

Seriously, your entire "far Left" agenda is obsessed with who can **** on the other the better. What a quality aspiration for an entire movement...

I've noticed your comments are mostly based on delusions of truth in a failed attempt to be funny at someone else' expense. You're mince at that as well....just saying.
Your words are clearly that of an insecure, arrogant & deeply unhappy person. Though it's blatantly clear....you're not as funny or important as you think you are...just the facts...

I'm off to beat up a couple of unemployed refugees....i'll leave you to play on the internet.

half of homeless sleeping on the streets in london are foreigners

porky where did I say anything about the 'far left'??

brockville trying to get a goliath up of far right buzzwords there. You'd have got a 25% bonus and a "I get all my opinions force-fed by Breitbart" sticker if you'd had either Snowflake or Corbynista in your post. Unlucky sunbeam.

I'll send you a link mois

brockville trying to get a goliath up of far right buzzwords there. You'd have got a 25% bonus and a "I get all my opinions force-fed by Breitbart" sticker if you'd had either Snowflake or Corbynista in your post. Unlucky sunbeam.

Lol amateur.

Can someone call the patter police

1000 people caught renting out illegally in London

of course it isn't happening

only a few bad eggs

Paranoid crybaby racists abandon opinions as scientists prove their penises shrink 5mm each day they think about "dem der immygrunts"

Man Utd top of the league after all their draws deemed "dead unlucky so are worth 2 points"

Sprouts are not only foul but will give you face cancer

Horses have an extra sense and can read our minds but don't know how to tell us

Daddy Day Care set for a Scorcese directed sequel



It's good this making stuff up lark.

Your turn.

gottalink?

Just thought i would put a few local ones up/yes it is spread over a few years but seems a very common problem
in this area.

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/9506293.Braintree__Five_held_after_Indian_restaurant_immigration_raid/

http://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/south_essex_news/14795655.Four_men_arrested_on_suspicion_of_being_illegal_immigrants_as_Indian_restaurant_is_raided/?ref=mr&lp=17

http://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/north_essex_news/15133133.Four_arrested_in_immigration_raid_on_Indian_restaurant/?ref=mr&lp=6

http://www.essexlive.news/billericay-indian-restaurant-facing-60-000-fine-after-three-illegal-workers-arrested-in-raid/story-30088532-detail/story.html

http://www.halsteadgazette.co.uk/news/9337408.Braintree__Immigration_raid_on_town_centre_restaurant/

http://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/countywide/14319491.Three_arrested_in_immigration_raid_on_Frinton_curry_house/

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/illegal-workers-seized-at-restaurants-1-165169

https://www.desiblitz.com/content/uk-restaurants-investigated-over-illegal-workers

1000 'landlords' caught by councils in london
60000 illegally housed in west london

nah its only a few bad eggs

GOTTALINK?

A recent report about refugees immigrants in Germany suggested that only 39,000 from more than a million were in employment.Clearly,there will be some scope for excuses within there and the UK may be less extreme but most right wing posters just want the governemnts to be looking more closely at this situation instead of supporting unlimited freedom of movement. Complete denial by politicians annoys  the majority and rubbishing our own people is just denial.

Would be interesting to know how many of them live on benefits(and hence dont need to work) and how many of them do not have the permission yet to start a job(and hence either work pay in hand jobs or prefer benefits or both)(And yes they do need to get the permission first which in itself in a tough task)

Consider my example for a moment. I am a student and hence can only take up a job that gives me around 500 Euros for 60 hours of work(which takes a lot of time away from my studies). I pay about 400 Euros for Accommodation in a student dorm and health insurance, which are my main expenses.

Now consider a refugee. 400 Euro for free and not having to pay for accommodation and health insurance. I have to work about 100 hours in a month to get to that level.

Why would you not come to Germany as a refugee and live on benefits? I dont know why the 39000 work. But the 961000 who dont work certainly are intelligent. That's why everyone wants to come to Europe. Free money.

In fact if you were living in a developing country and had the opportunity to come over and live here as a refugee, you'd be really stupid to turn it down.

As we can clearly see, they are not Refugees, they are Economic Migrants.

They are actually happier if you just keep blaming it on Islam and how they are here to breed and spread their religion and takeover Europe.

Many European countries no longer exist, Germany no longer exists.