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By:
Breedingmad
When: 25 Apr 17 10:15
It's so easy to criticize but when your outside you can't change much within it so you just point the finger and tut.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Apr 17 10:16
We re-located the grand total of 5 unaccompanied children last year.


Utterly, utterly shameful.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Apr 17 10:29
so bleeding mad doesn't give a toss - thanks for that - how very caring and concerned you must be

neither of you care at all

I couldn't have caught a nastier pair in a net

the sort of people you support have helped to create this

yet all you can do is try to disparage the story and the plight of these people
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Apr 17 10:33
Confused
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Apr 17 10:53
Children often travel alone to the camps from war zones in Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq,

Eh, children have that capability?

And where are the war zones in Afghanistan and Iraq?

These are large countries why not simply move to another part of the country if there is trouble?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Apr 17 10:55
I see from PP's tone that he must surely be about to take in a couple of these poor kids himself.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Apr 17 10:56
two of the most uncaring contributors on this forum as long as the facts can be hidden
and not mentioned they are happy


but then we all know why they don't like issues like this being raised don't we?

we know where many of the refugees come from and their customs and culture
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Apr 17 12:27
ahh, the logic of the far right.

If you show sympathy for the refugees and think your government could do more then you must also be willing to house them personally. Cos that's how it works obviouslyCrazy
By:
saddo
When: 25 Apr 17 13:17
Aye, wouldn't want our virtue signalling to actually cost us owt personally, would we.
By:
terry mccann
When: 25 Apr 17 13:21
the government should do more for families from war-torn countries,we can imagine the horrors the yanks and isis do,
my problem is young single men from northern Africa,they should be let nowhere the UK
By:
moisok
When: 25 Apr 17 13:36
some don't want the issue raised or debated because it concerns the culture we must not offend
By:
saddo
When: 25 Apr 17 13:36
Nearly all those entering Italy are single young men from Africa. Are the yanks doing much bombing ove there?
By:
TheBaron
When: 25 Apr 17 14:47
I remember hearing a radio programme about 25 years ago about how the world would change in the next 100 years and one of the contributors saying that a major problem on the horizon would be the mass movement of people out of Africa into Southern Europe. The solution suggested was a wallShocked
By:
Gin
When: 25 Apr 17 15:00
https://twitter.com/VisualCap/status/850078472995295232

This is the problem that the world is facing.
By:
wit-ham
When: 25 Apr 17 18:12
Yes we also had the article written by an Irish Journalist about how
saving the African children from hunger 25/30 years ago has caused
the problem today due to massive overpopulation now in these countries
  Birth control i think is what is needed.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 Apr 17 18:20
1,810 billionaires - average wealth 3 billion each.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 Apr 17 18:24
a 7 year old child in Africa digging all day for 20p - filling sacks with clay that contains cobalt. Needed for the new iphone.
Buy it now... the new one... it's reasonably priced. Come on.. the NEW one is out - don't fall behind... get it. Or suffer the laughs of those that have one, while you go without?
By:
wit-ham
When: 25 Apr 17 18:28
My old Nokia still going strong
Work gave me a new Samsung S something or another
it still in the box,yet us idiots still work for peanuts
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Apr 17 18:36
Religious leaders should give up their insane race to produce the most followers and start advocating birth control and women's rights instead for the good of us all.

(Just remembered the old forumite Willy Heckaslike)Cool
By:
moisok
When: 25 Apr 17 18:45
They should be paid less so I can have even cheaper whotsmacallits to talk into.  and listen to.

funny old world isn't it

I have a pile of vinyl in two houses just left in the bottom of cupboards - heaps of it
(an original double album from the Springfields and Frank Ifield single to name but seven!!)
Now I wander into HMV to buy my latest ned sherrin or what ever his name is and I see all these large round things

It's all back in !!!!   I could have saved a fortune instead of buying all these cds!!!
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 Apr 17 22:41
what's with the religious slant on everything Foinavon.

are we going for the zero population BS that the Georgia guide stones are hinting at?

bringing the population of the world below 1 billion.

the ZPG theory started when the population was 3.7 billion. in 1972.
there was no crisis - new strains of wheat covered the gap.
there are huge swaiths of unpopulated land out there.
with the new graphene water filter all the deserts can be clawed back by pumping sea water inland. solving rising water levels?

All this is moot - 4 billion die in revelation. famine, war, pestilence. good luck.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 26 Apr 17 00:32
They've pulled out of Facebook. The gruniad that is..
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Apr 17 19:33
what's with the religious slant on everything Foinavon.

It's quite simple, Zorro.
Religions tell people how to live their lives.
The vast majority of people adhere to some religion or other, the two biggest religions control the attitudes of a large proportion the world's population.
Their leaders call for large families and no contraception.
We are leaving ourselves with little margin for error due to burgeoning populations
especially in poorer countries. Droughts, soil erosion and crop failures happen and are usually beyond human control. Famine, wars and mass migrations are the result with untold human misery in their wake.
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Apr 17 19:34
PS, you forgot the question mark, matey. Wink
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Apr 17 19:41
Famine, wars and mass migrations are the result with untold human misery in their wake.

Oh, I nearly forgot, you doom mongers want that don't you?
It prophesies that in your little black book. Bring it on.
By:
brockville
When: 27 Apr 17 14:05
ahh, the logic of the far right.

If you show sympathy for the refugees and think your government could do more then you must also be willing to house them personally. Cos that's how it works obviouslyCrazy

I agree to an extent Porky.

It's kind of like the far lefts crazy attitude to personal responsibility.

The belief that unemployment benefit and other various government handouts should be seen as a legitimate lifestyle choice for anyone who lives or wants to live here and anyone who disagrees with them is a cold heartless basteward.

Unfortunately for the Lefties most reasonable people, the real working/middle class,  the silent majority,  the ones that actually work, know that benefits are supposed to be a bridge from a tough short term situation designed to help them achieve, for themselves more prosperity and a better life.

It's a shame really but personal responsibility doesn't seem to exist much in far Left (commie) dogma. This is why they are and will continue to lose.

As Foinavon says "bring it on"
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 14:30
The fallacy that "the far left" believing we should be openly welcoming foreigners to come here and do nothing but take benefits and not contribute in any way.

Not at all true obviously but comforting for "those on the far right" who choose to look solely after themselves and so not feel any guilt about not caring a jot for anyone else.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 17 14:45
nearly half a million eu citizens now 'inactive' in this country

clearly xylophoners telling lies - just right wing propaganda

this puts it clearly in its box and not to be repeated as it has no standing what so ever

hope I have cleared this up
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 14:53
Again, you're confusing what is happening with what you think "the far left" want to happen.

I'm certain there are people here abusing the benefits system, of course there are. There are plenty of Brits who do it too so it's bound to happen. I'm sure plenty of ours are abusing the system abroad. C'est la vie. Doesn't make it right. Not at all. But if you were to ban every social policy as soon as a few bad eggs started abusing it then there'd be no social policy at all.

However, a failure of policing doesn't mean a failure of policy. My friend is a truck driver and moans about EU drivers taking his work. What is clear though is that EU rules are clearly in place to protect him and prevent drivers coming here on a job and spending time working their way round the country. The failure is in our law enforcement in tracking and cracking down on it.

As for the half a million, could you send me a link? Wondering how that works. For example, when we lived abroad my wife was a stay at home mum as we strictly didn't need the extra income. We didn't claim any benefits though and wondering if the likes of her would also be called 'inactive'.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 17 15:56
As a confused liar I was just contemplating the latest immigrant fraud committed - currently in court.

Just one or two at it of course. I really must stop being naughty and raising these silly little insignificant figures.

Mind you, at a couple of hundred thousand a time it wouldn't take long to build up a considerable amount.

Dewsbury is a peach.  About 3 times as many not working.  But of course this is made up figures by a deranged black shirt.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 17 15:59
the truck driving friend is a scorcher. 

there's at least 4 million foreigners working here

many have taken jobs that our youngsters could be involved in

there may be anything between 1.1 and 1.6 million illegals

no one knows - many taking up jobs

17 illegals turned out of a chinese near heathrow last year!!
imagine that country wide!!??

But don't even mention it - it's only a 'few bad eggs'
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 16:29
Again, link please?

You seem keen on picking one friend of mine and 17 Chinese and extrapolating that into hundreds of thousands.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 17 16:36
I don't extrapolate. I gave up years ago. I am too old

and you are right it is in fact millions

hope I have clarified the matter
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 17:11
and the link please?
By:
brockville
When: 27 Apr 17 17:31
You seem very judgemental and intolerant Porky Pie.

Typical response from a "far left" virtue signalling crybaby that spends FAR to much time on the internet with nothing productive to offer but delusions of superiority bullshit.

Seriously, your entire "far Left" agenda is obsessed with who can **** on the other the better. What a quality aspiration for an entire movement...LaughLaughLaugh

I've noticed your comments are mostly based on delusions of truth in a failed attempt to be funny at someone else' expense. You're mince at that as well....just saying.
Your words are clearly that of an insecure, arrogant & deeply unhappy person. Though it's blatantly clear....you're not as funny or important as you think you are...just the facts...

I'm off to beat up a couple of unemployed refugees....i'll leave you to play on the internet.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 17 17:37
half of homeless sleeping on the streets in london are foreigners
By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 17 17:40
porky where did I say anything about the 'far left'??
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 17:45
brockville trying to get a goliath up of far right buzzwords there. You'd have got a 25% bonus and a "I get all my opinions force-fed by Breitbart" sticker if you'd had either Snowflake or Corbynista in your post. Unlucky sunbeam.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 17:46
I'll send you a link mois
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