Just popped back for a mo, then you cowards will have the rest of the day to insult me.

What part of BENIGN dictatorship, do you fools not understand,

"So many of you brownshirts (on this thread let alone the forum as a whole)...Oh dear Un-study resorting to Nazzzi insults, Look up Godwin's law you classless fool. Byyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeee

Surely it's eminently sensible to worry about Turkey given its position as the gateway between Europe and the Middle East.


I understand Erdogan has been quite canny in how he's been a very populist leader: there's been a huge influx from the poor in the east into Istanbul and the promise of making a better life and he's also won a lot of Syrian refugee hearts in how the Turks have been very generous in helping out their neighbours. Sadly, he's also wasted billions on white elephants in the process and run down local services and now seems to be turning his back on democracy and handing over power to anyone else.

think someone said on tv last week we,re short of 2 to 3 millions housing stock,where do all the luvies,libtards thinks these people are currently living,garages,sheds, bridges,subways, are all places for the homeless to lay their heads,1000,s of properties run by gangmasters,nightshift in the bed in dayshift out of the bed,you really ought to get out more

That was my fault for engaging 1tp further in his ramblings [

aaronh

if the luvies and libtards could only believe in democracy there,s nothing to discuss regarding turkeys refferendum,its only because once again they dont like the result of a reff ,election,thats its brought up, there like sunderland desperate for a win somewhere ,anywhere

erdogan represents a dilemma for Euro rednecks. How do they balance their support for populism with his islamic fundamentalist tendencies?

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You only have to realise that the I word and the M word is involved to know there is going to be trouble.

They have no place in the EU

I don't think we have to worry now, Erdogan has always had his eye on total rule and dangled the EU carrot to keep some of the metropolitan Stambouli off his back. Now he's got what he really want's just watch him give the EU the digit..

But the timeline from joining europe and going dictatorship, one minute all |Brussels the next minute all North Korea. Just shows what a joke the eu are.

apologies for my narrow view
I have not read the guardian for 4 days

Good man!.

For the terminally hard of thinking, a simple Google will bring up countless examples of the Benevolent Dictator. This from the 'luvvies favourite newsheet. The Guardian! just a sample.................

Lee Kuan Yew leaves a legacy of authoritarian pragmatism.

For some, Lee Kuan Yew’s death marks the passing of a ruthless tyrant. For others, it is the tireless leader’s final reward.

Of all the benevolent dictators in history, none deserve the title more than Mr Lee. For 31 years, he ruled as prime minister of Singapore, and for two more decades, he held a key position in the cabinet. Firmly entrenched, and with a free hand, Lee moulded Singapore in his own image and made it what it is today – a prosperous city-state with an intensely pragmatic people under the spell of a peculiar brand of “soft” authoritarianism.

And so he arbitrarily detained hundreds of alleged communists, chauvinists and extremists over the years using the Internal Security Act, a holdover from Singapore’s colonial past. It was detention without trial so concrete evidence wasn’t necessary. All you needed was a firm conviction that the country was under siege and the strategic brilliance to outmanoeuvre the enemy.

It was no coincidence that many of these alleged communists were Lee’s political opponents. In 1963, more than 100 opposition politicians and union leaders were deemed a threat to national security and arbitrarily detained, crippling the Barisan Sosialis, the biggest political threat to Lee’s People’s Action Party (PAP). By 1968, the PAP had won 58 out of 58 seats in parliament. The opposition never recovered and the PAP has never lost an election since.

Just a few of the Hundreds of thousands of words written about the place and the man, from all over the world.

I suppose 'YOUR' newssheet is lying just like me.

Monaco ? Aspatria ?

how to spot a dictator... he's wearing an army uniform at some stage.

Got to accept election results or you are in trouble. What's out of order is loaded questions on the ballot papers.

ze child molesting opposition called labduro want yer vote - yes/no
ze dutiful government love you and freedom vote here amigos - yes/no.

BTW those couple of searches took all of 3 minutes

You don't half post some carp.
and as I said earlier, are (consistently) very selective about what you actually reply to and tend to ignore most of what's written.

Sort of makes you pointless to engage with really, so it's just as well you won't post any more.

The whole world is wrong about Singapore, but not you. This is my final post on this fred, Can't educate PORK.

mrs may breaking her own partys fixed term parliament bill to call an unwanted election to give her more powers,will any of the luvies in the media call her a dictator