American Airlines customer getting dragged off the plane

Its a while since I was involved in this sort of thing, but used to, as a matter of course, overbook.  At the check-in they used to offer say a $100 voucher to anyone willing to give up their seat and rebook on a later plane.

They would raise the amount if no-one took them up on the offer.  A perfectly satisfactory situation.

But this was on the plane - and the bloke didn't want to go!

Dreadful own goal by the airline.

going to get sued millions - settle out of court on that one?

They let them board - that was the big mistake.
they should have started a dutch auction.
it would have been cheaper.

start at a thousand to get off the plane first guy to settle gets the sum. Some would have settled around $1500. stopping at $800 was just stupid.

now they have lawyers circling them.

If i see that feckin clip once more................

it was even on Squawk Box this morning...

Just reading up on it...apparently before someone came up with the voucher idea, they regularly used to boot people off at random!

Aye apparently when you board a flight your rights go out the window..

Should have dragged all those people saying 'Oh my God' off instead imo

Zorro
Don't Dutch auctions go down?

The airline deserve all the bad publicity they get.
If the company overbooked then that's their lookout not the individual customer's, and if they are too tight to offer a decent incentive then bad publicity is the result.
Couldn't they have done without a stewardess for a flight?
Maybe people could have opened their own cans of pop.

Didn't they want the seats for four of their employees?  The uproar I read was they could have hired a car and drove it in five hours but instead asked customers on the plane to give up their seats for money, but then had to resort to a lottery but this guy didn't want to leave.

United Airlines.

Yes I stand corrected it was United Airlines, not American Airlines.

Anyone know what the law is on this situation?

The Victim was already on the plane. Does he have any rights?

The security staff are not the Police or are they? Do they have authority to assault CUSTOMERS?

If anybody stood up and blocked the aisle's presumably they could have been prosecuted for Terrorist Offences?

Do the other passengers have any legal rights to stop a common law assault?

Somehow I think not but if anyone does know I would like to hear.

Its America.

There will be a load of lawyers somewhere rubbing their hands.

Passenger is an idiot.  The Captain is the law on a plane and if he says get off you get off.  They did handle it very badly though.

I would imagine that bookings with that airline will be sharply down in the next few weeks.

should gassed em all - taken four out and used them as slaves in a turnip mine.

The passenger involved said he is a doctor.

The quip going the rounds says - board as a doctor leave as a patient.

How was this person 'chosen'  to be asked to deboard ?

If you've booked a flight, payed a lot of money, have to be somewhere of importance tomorrow (he was a doctor) why  should you get off? it's the company's fault for over booking, how do you even over book a flight in this day and age anyway. I would have refused to, but I'm white and the guy they picked out was Asian so they probably would have left me alone. Could the flight not have gone ahead with just one less staff member? or could they not have offered the next available fight with substantial compensation, sure they would exchange that now for the untold bad publicity they've now got. Massive PR own goal with everyone on board having a camera in their hands, it's not the 70's or 80's anymore where I'd imagine maybe one or two people had a chuncky video camera with them. (were they allowed on board back then ?)

I hope he sues the airline for all their worth though apparently airlines are within their rights to correct their own mistake by seriously inconveniencing someone else. Maybe sue them for being man handled the way he was - one of the officers has already been suspended...

TheBaron • April 11, 2017 12:01 PM BST
Passenger is an idiot.  The Captain is the law on a plane and if he says get off you get off.  They did handle it very badly though.

Yes but his authority is based on passenger safety etc.  It's a gross abuse of that authority to throw someone off the plane just so that airline employees can get on.

Apr 11, 2017 -- 6:24AM, Vubiant wrote:

How was this person 'chosen'

An algo that selects people t kick out based on who booked last. Though i dont believe that crap.

He'll definitely be a richer man(probably already quite well off), unless he is really really stupid.

As for the rest, people will probably leave United alone once the next big thing come around. Probably a school shooting or something like that. People have very very very short memories.

Zorro that is a very silly post. Everyone knows there are no turnip mines. The last one closed in 1967.
However we still have a treacle mine in Rusper.  At least my father told me there was when I was a youngster.

You do have to wonder though what goes on in people's heads to make them act the way they do.
Ok it's the nature of 'security' to be a bit hands on and light of head, but a doctor screaming and having to be manhandled ffs?
Sure he really didn't want to get off, but would you be screaming like that?
I'd have spoken to the grunts and explained they would have had to forceably remove me, but I wouldn't have screamed like a bitch as they did it.

Was thinking of best way to maximise compo.

Apr 11, 2017 -- 7:01AM, detraveller wrote:

An algo that selects people t kick out based on who booked last. Though i dont believe that crap. He'll definitely be a richer man(probably already quite well off), unless he is really really stupid.As for the rest, people will probably leave United alone once the next big thing come around. Probably a school shooting or something like that. People have very very very short memories.

There's apparently a bit more to it than "last in, first out", apparently.  Things like whether you're part of their loyalty programme, a frequent flyer, connecting or terminating (priority is given to those on connecting flights) and then how much you've paid for your ticket, allegedly!

They wouldn't had got Rambo off. He would've just clung to the under bit of the wing then dropped into the sea half a mile before landing not a mark on him

Probably would have been impossible to unwedge 50% of the lard-arses on board.

Shares down 3%


Dont understand why youd let too many passengers onto the plane. Any incentives to go on a later plane plummet in value once you are sat in your actually seat rather than just waiting at the gate.

Think the passenger behaves like a  gayyer though so Id happily still fly with any airline who did this

Jack Hacksaw • April 11, 2017 1:53 PM BST
Was thinking of best way to maximise compo.

Probs correct there Jack
Though the shame of putting on such a pathetic act would have been too much for me personally.
Don't think much of his personal constitution to be honest.

Yer a hard man, dusty

Well it'd take more than an 'indian burn' (can you still say that?) to get me crying

Thought it was a 'Chinese' burn?

I had to look it up to see if I was open to legal complaints.
It seems either refer to the same thing....whether they are PC or not is another matter....we called em Indian like the red indian, but you cant say that now, so I just didnt.

hehe, me neither. Although some sad twot on ere will prob report me. I've just farted so ye can tell em that as well...


Twas my old man who used to call it 'East Asian' burn; don't think he liked em. Mind you he didn't like many people tbph...

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Jack Hacksaw • April 11, 2017 1:53 PM BST
Was thinking of best way to maximise compo.

Probs correct there Jack
Though the shame of putting on such a pathetic act would have been too much for me personally.
Don't think much of his personal constitution to be honest.


And that woman shouting 'Oh, my god' all the time no doubt already appointed a top lawyer and under counselling for post-traumatic stress disorder.

There will be a counter claim for not naming her god or offending another god..

The Asian doctor looked quite slim, surely common sense should dictate a really fat person should be asked to leave? Safety first and all that.

United are now trying to defame the passenger by saying he has a criminal past after selling drugs illegally. So now he can sue for libel as well as assault!

I was on a Delta flight once. If I'd known prior to take off how bad the food was going to be, I wish someone would have dragged me off.

A mate flew Thai Airlines and got pulled off.

Ladyboy?

Never flies with anyone else now.

I wonder if the other passengers will sue for all the mental stress suffered in witnessing a grown man scream like a little girl? Awful scenes.

belligerent ladyboy quacks the scourge of airlines ,should have  been tasered at the phurst sign of non compliance

"step away from the plane sir"    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAP 

HAVE A NICE DAY

I'm getting stressed now just reading about it - should I sue united Airlines or BF

Boarded as a doctor; leaves as a patient..

They should've offered unlimited free booze pre-flight...

Then you usually end up with some yobbish drunkard who can't handle his ale.... So you have an instant excuse to
kick him OFF

really hope these c*nts get to pay thru the nose for this
and bookings plummet exponentially
f*cking handjobs

I still would like to know what would have happened if a passenger stepped in to stop the assault on a 69 year old man. I am not sure I could sit by while a thug battered an old man, call me old fashioned if you will.

Was he 69? He looked very good on it I must say! He looked mid fifties to me.

....do american airlines have us armed marshals on board?

I wouldn't like join in with the chaos if thats the case.

they need to install ejector seats in the future. Only functional in a static plane of course. Not while it's flying.

blow darts? then use a net to drag them out.

Reminded me of this, although the President was less severe...

https://youtu.be/sOUoNy7EmPA

Trained bees are the way forward. Nobody takes liberties with trained bees, set them loose on a troublemaker and they'd be off that plane within seconds no problem.

Apparently UA use this clip as a training video for their staff
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkpIDBtC2c

man..the fashion!

Disgusting behaviour by the Airline. Haven't they heard of a polite offer of an upgrade, or compensation? Hopefully they'll have to cough up a much bigger sum. now.

ceo position is untenable

Is there any other line of business where you can "oversell" a product?

The CEO making a berk of himself today and shoving his size 9s down his fat gob.

Boarding staff probably too busy varnishing their nails to realize they let too many on board....
CEO talking through his hole when stating staff followed procedures.....surely its not procedure to allow people on a plane, then ask them to get off when realizing its full?!

Hope the guy absolutely rinses them

" May we offer you an upgrade, Sir? If you can wait another day to travel! We are so sorry for the obvious inconvenience and possible financial distress this may cause you, for which we will make sure that you are adequately recompensed". Nah! Let's just beat him up and throw him off instead! If he complains we'll tell everybody that he is mentally Ill.!

first we seat
then
we beat

Dr Crippen    11 Apr 17 12:10 
The passenger involved said he is a doctor.

The quip going the rounds says - board as a doctor leave as a patient.


guinness2dear    11 Apr 17 17:52 
Boarded as a doctor; leaves as a patient..

bored bettor

Wonder if felons are seated together so they can keep an eye on them  ,story does not mention the others who were removed .

sexual offenders first off imo

I have no sympathy for the guy Why didn't he just get off.Now claiming he can't sleep suffering mental anguish etc.etc.  The guards were too rough but claimed he was belligerent and i believe them

Why should he just get off? he paid for a flight, the flight could have gone ahead without 1 staff member who they ejected him for.

he`s very selfish, people like him ruin everything for everyone else.

Shame the doc didnt heed his only advice....

If he saw a patient kicking n Screaming and in total distress...his probably say 'calm down' and tell the fella to adopt some breathing exercises.

First Class, Club Class and Fight Club instead of Cattle or Economy Class.

I still don't understand how it was lawful to beat the man up. it's not as if he was bl***!

the masochists will run for service like that. re-market for the guy that wants to be hit across the chops.

I have just taken out a 'De-Plane' policy with Churchill, al legal costs covered, private Jet, within 2 hours, all this for £24.99.

Whole fing is a fake to manipulate AA share price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONIRMI0uGM

Whisperingdeaath

If I had booked and payed for a flight, sat down in a seat allocated to me and told to get off as someone else is going to sit there I don't think I would be to happy.

Why overbook flights anyway? if you miss your flight you don't get a refund!

Hope he sues them for all they are worth.

Maybe airlines may treat those flying with them as valued customers instead of cattle.

Yer man is still recovering in hospital.

But his lawyers are on the case.

CEO seems to have done an about turn and says the passenger was not at all to blame.

A broken nose, two front teeth and a concussion thus far.

This could be big

could have been much worse.
His trousers could have come down being dragged down the aisle and everyone seen his nob

Boom Unders!

dustybin
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could have been much worse.
His trousers could have come down being dragged down the aisle and everyone seen his nob

If what has been written about him in the papers is true, most people have already seen it.

His lawyer holding a press conference shown live on the BBC. WTF is that all about.
Was rabbiting on about stopping the airlines over-booking etc, what's that got to do with him.

It's a Crusade for them,  make themselves into celebrities like Johhny Cochrane and the other fellow ( John Travolta ) oh yes Robert Shaipiro, F Lee Bailey, Alan Dershowitz, Barry Scheck and one Robert Cardashian.

They will become household names. They are already known as big hitters within the criminal oops I mean legal community.