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Company over books apparently and don't have enough seats for staff so randomly pick some guy to have to get off, who refuses and is the unceremoniously dragged down the aisle kicking and screaming.
Ham fisted yanks.
Ham fisted yanks.
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Its a while since I was involved in this sort of thing, but used to, as a matter of course, overbook. At the check-in they used to offer say a $100 voucher to anyone willing to give up their seat and rebook on a later plane.
They would raise the amount if no-one took them up on the offer. A perfectly satisfactory situation. But this was on the plane - and the bloke didn't want to go! Dreadful own goal by the airline. |
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going to get sued millions - settle out of court on that one?
They let them board - that was the big mistake. they should have started a dutch auction. it would have been cheaper. start at a thousand to get off the plane first guy to settle gets the sum. Some would have settled around $1500. stopping at $800 was just stupid. now they have lawyers circling them. |
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If i see that feckin clip once more................
it was even on Squawk Box this morning... |
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Just reading up on it...apparently before someone came up with the voucher idea, they regularly used to boot people off at random!
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Aye apparently when you board a flight your rights go out the window..
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Should have dragged all those people saying 'Oh my God' off instead imo
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Zorro
Don't Dutch auctions go down? The airline deserve all the bad publicity they get. If the company overbooked then that's their lookout not the individual customer's, and if they are too tight to offer a decent incentive then bad publicity is the result. Couldn't they have done without a stewardess for a flight? Maybe people could have opened their own cans of pop. |
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Didn't they want the seats for four of their employees? The uproar I read was they could have hired a car and drove it in five hours but instead asked customers on the plane to give up their seats for money, but then had to resort to a lottery but this guy didn't want to leave.
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United Airlines.
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Yes I stand corrected it was United Airlines, not American Airlines.
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Anyone know what the law is on this situation?
The Victim was already on the plane. Does he have any rights? The security staff are not the Police or are they? Do they have authority to assault CUSTOMERS? If anybody stood up and blocked the aisle's presumably they could have been prosecuted for Terrorist Offences? Do the other passengers have any legal rights to stop a common law assault? Somehow I think not but if anyone does know I would like to hear. |
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Its America.
There will be a load of lawyers somewhere rubbing their hands. |
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Passenger is an idiot. The Captain is the law on a plane and if he says get off you get off. They did handle it very badly though.
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I would imagine that bookings with that airline will be sharply down in the next few weeks.
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should gassed em all - taken four out and used them as slaves in a turnip mine.
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The passenger involved said he is a doctor.
The quip going the rounds says - board as a doctor leave as a patient. |
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How was this person 'chosen' to be asked to deboard ?
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If you've booked a flight, payed a lot of money, have to be somewhere of importance tomorrow (he was a doctor) why should you get off? it's the company's fault for over booking, how do you even over book a flight in this day and age anyway. I would have refused to, but I'm white and the guy they picked out was Asian so they probably would have left me alone. Could the flight not have gone ahead with just one less staff member? or could they not have offered the next available fight with substantial compensation, sure they would exchange that now for the untold bad publicity they've now got. Massive PR own goal with everyone on board having a camera in their hands, it's not the 70's or 80's anymore where I'd imagine maybe one or two people had a chuncky video camera with them. (were they allowed on board back then ?)
I hope he sues the airline for all their worth though apparently airlines are within their rights to correct their own mistake by seriously inconveniencing someone else. Maybe sue them for being man handled the way he was - one of the officers has already been suspended... |
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TheBaron • April 11, 2017 12:01 PM BST
Passenger is an idiot. The Captain is the law on a plane and if he says get off you get off. They did handle it very badly though. Yes but his authority is based on passenger safety etc. It's a gross abuse of that authority to throw someone off the plane just so that airline employees can get on. |
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An algo that selects people t kick out based on who booked last. Though i dont believe that crap.
He'll definitely be a richer man(probably already quite well off), unless he is really really stupid. As for the rest, people will probably leave United alone once the next big thing come around. Probably a school shooting or something like that. People have very very very short memories. |
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Zorro that is a very silly post. Everyone knows there are no turnip mines. The last one closed in 1967.
However we still have a treacle mine in Rusper. At least my father told me there was when I was a youngster. |
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You do have to wonder though what goes on in people's heads to make them act the way they do.
Ok it's the nature of 'security' to be a bit hands on and light of head, but a doctor screaming and having to be manhandled ffs? Sure he really didn't want to get off, but would you be screaming like that? I'd have spoken to the grunts and explained they would have had to forceably remove me, but I wouldn't have screamed like a bitch as they did it. |
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Was thinking of best way to maximise compo.
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They wouldn't had got Rambo off. He would've just clung to the under bit of the wing then dropped into the sea half a mile before landing not a mark on him
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Probably would have been impossible to unwedge 50% of the lard-arses on board.
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Shares down 3%
Dont understand why youd let too many passengers onto the plane. Any incentives to go on a later plane plummet in value once you are sat in your actually seat rather than just waiting at the gate. Think the passenger behaves like a gayyer though so Id happily still fly with any airline who did this |
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Jack Hacksaw • April 11, 2017 1:53 PM BST
Was thinking of best way to maximise compo. Probs correct there Jack Though the shame of putting on such a pathetic act would have been too much for me personally. Don't think much of his personal constitution to be honest. |
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Yer a hard man, dusty
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Well it'd take more than an 'indian burn' (can you still say that?) to get me crying
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Thought it was a 'Chinese' burn?
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I had to look it up to see if I was open to legal complaints.
It seems either refer to the same thing....whether they are PC or not is another matter....we called em Indian like the red indian, but you cant say that now, so I just didnt.  |
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hehe, me neither. Although some sad twot on ere will prob report me. I've just farted so ye can tell em that as well...
Twas my old man who used to call it 'East Asian' burn; don't think he liked em. Mind you he didn't like many people tbph... |
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dustybin 11 Apr 17 15:51 Joined: 29 Dec 08 | Topic/replies: 12,931 | Blogger: dustybin's blog Jack Hacksaw • April 11, 2017 1:53 PM BST Was thinking of best way to maximise compo. Probs correct there Jack Though the shame of putting on such a pathetic act would have been too much for me personally. Don't think much of his personal constitution to be honest. And that woman shouting 'Oh, my god' all the time no doubt already appointed a top lawyer and under counselling for post-traumatic stress disorder. |
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There will be a counter claim for not naming her god or offending another god..
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The Asian doctor looked quite slim, surely common sense should dictate a really fat person should be asked to leave? Safety first and all that.
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United are now trying to defame the passenger by saying he has a criminal past after selling drugs illegally. So now he can sue for libel as well as assault!
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I was on a Delta flight once. If I'd known prior to take off how bad the food was going to be, I wish someone would have dragged me off.
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