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I hate the bloke but this is nuts.
Was clearly a joke and the reporter herself laughed it off. Now all sorts of daft women's right groups piping up and Gary Linekar, whats his beef ffs?!
Was clearly a joke and the reporter herself laughed it off. Now all sorts of daft women's right groups piping up and Gary Linekar, whats his beef ffs?!
Any man saying that to a woman is going to be shouted down , lets be honest in many areas it could go further than that.
He deserves lots of flak.
To presume the mic is off , yet again beggars belief.
The other point is .
It appears the interviewer was only expected to ask banal ,friendly questions , and it was bang out of order to ask one that was not deemed nice and easy and non critical or challenging.
He deserves lots of flak.
To presume the mic is off , yet again beggars belief.
The other point is .
It appears the interviewer was only expected to ask banal ,friendly questions , and it was bang out of order to ask one that was not deemed nice and easy and non critical or challenging.
Sorry, GoOnThen, I did not see your thread when I posted. I started my thread after looking to see if someone had started and none had but unfortunately by the time I had posted you had posted
Again as per my thread, I couldn't agree more. The world's gone mad.
Again as per my thread, I couldn't agree more. The world's gone mad.
But he was joking, sixtwosix!
Maybe it because of where people come from and their age, but I have had said to me the exact words and I took it as it was meant, jokingly.
I am no lover of david moyes so that is not the reason I am sticking up for him. Although he should not have apologised, he had nothing to apologise for. As if he would have hit her, the idea is preposterous.
Maybe it because of where people come from and their age, but I have had said to me the exact words and I took it as it was meant, jokingly.
I am no lover of david moyes so that is not the reason I am sticking up for him. Although he should not have apologised, he had nothing to apologise for. As if he would have hit her, the idea is preposterous.
I wonder whether the same 'offended' screamers will be taking to task the Peace Loving chaps in certain parts of the world who oppress, assault and occasionally stone women?
He is of a similar age to myself , I have never heard any bloke jokingly say anything similar to a woman.
An interviewer is entitled to ask what questions they like , it is not controlled by the interviewee. If he doesn't want to answer he can decline , but to wait until he believes the mic is off to say what is did is very poor.
An interviewer is entitled to ask what questions they like , it is not controlled by the interviewee. If he doesn't want to answer he can decline , but to wait until he believes the mic is off to say what is did is very poor.
His only crimes are being Scottish and born in the 50's.
I'm more offended by red nose day going ahead two days after a sickening attack where people died in terrible circumstances. No one gives a damn anymore.
I would love to see the reporter concerned do women a favour and say she took it as a joke and stand up for him.
All this bull**** about women being hard done by, they do not live in the real world. When I was young I got loads of jobs because I was attractive and the bosses fancied me. I could have married rich men if I was mercenary, but money never interested me where men were concerned. Women have it far easier than men in most areas of life.
All this bull**** about women being hard done by, they do not live in the real world. When I was young I got loads of jobs because I was attractive and the bosses fancied me. I could have married rich men if I was mercenary, but money never interested me where men were concerned. Women have it far easier than men in most areas of life.
the orginal hushwing 03 Apr 17 18:58
...and Gary Linekar, whats his beef ffs?!
*beef & onion imo
...and Gary Linekar, whats his beef ffs?!
*beef & onion imo
old school football manager slaps feminist reporter with twice as much brain
the irony is the f a are the biggest bunch of racist and sexist bigots in the game
unfortunately for moyes it comes as a time when these characteristics have been put in the spotlight
the irony is the f a are the biggest bunch of racist and sexist bigots in the game
unfortunately for moyes it comes as a time when these characteristics have been put in the spotlight
sixtwosix
He is of a similar age to myself , I have never heard any bloke jokingly say anything similar to a woman.
An interviewer is entitled to ask what questions they like , it is not controlled by the interviewee. If he doesn't want to answer he can decline , but to wait until he believes the mic is off to say what is did is very poor.
You can clearly hear him laughing when he spoke to her. It was obviously a joke so why post that?
He is of a similar age to myself , I have never heard any bloke jokingly say anything similar to a woman.
An interviewer is entitled to ask what questions they like , it is not controlled by the interviewee. If he doesn't want to answer he can decline , but to wait until he believes the mic is off to say what is did is very poor.
You can clearly hear him laughing when he spoke to her. It was obviously a joke so why post that?
It was a bloody joke, this is just absolutely absurd.
Hey slippy what about that resuuuuullltttt against Chelski!!!
wasn't a joke, he may have been trying to pass it off as a joke but he clearly was trying to intimidate her
have to rememeber the question she asks about he's job being under pressure...that's what provoked it, if that wasn't the question and was a light hearted quip then it would be different
and at the end he said "watch yourself" after they finished laughing (she was only laughing nervously, as in not knowing if he was being serious or playing), but soon stopped.
have to rememeber the question she asks about he's job being under pressure...that's what provoked it, if that wasn't the question and was a light hearted quip then it would be different
and at the end he said "watch yourself" after they finished laughing (she was only laughing nervously, as in not knowing if he was being serious or playing), but soon stopped.
Amazing result btf, that's us safe I would have thought
It was obviously said in jest but he's not a natural comic so it doesn't come across that well.
Women queuing up to register offence now. It's daft.
Women queuing up to register offence now. It's daft.
Every caller agreeing with Brasil and Quinn. Julia Hartley-Brewer endorsing Moyes now. TS nothing if not biased towards blokes over 50 in football!
Anyone remember Bill McGarry's reply to the same question put by a BBC reporter?
Jim White just put balloon head in his place at the changeover.
No li. Please enlighten me.
No li. Please enlighten me.
Interviewer: Are you worried about your own position (as manager) at Newcastle, Bill?
McGarry: You ever been told to f*** off? Eh? What a f***ing diabolical question, you c***arse. F*** off. F*** off! You can put that on the f***ing radio as well. What a f***ing disgraceful question. Eh? You c***.
McGarry: You ever been told to f*** off? Eh? What a f***ing diabolical question, you c***arse. F*** off. F*** off! You can put that on the f***ing radio as well. What a f***ing disgraceful question. Eh? You c***.
still waiting for the femminist ,libtard uproar because the tory scotch rug munching leader called the labour mp lisa tandy love on QT ON THURS,obviously ok for a rug muncher to address her as love but not a male mp
Something in the air in the North East?
Full transcript of Joe Kinnear’s foul-mouthed press conference rant
Friday 3 Oct 2008 12:35 pm
This is an edited transcript of Joe Kinnear’s first official press conference
JK: Which one is Simon Bird [Daily Mirror football writer]?
SB: Me.
JK: You’re a C***.
SB: Thank you.
JK: Which one is Hickman [Niall, football writer for the Express]? You are out of order. Absolutely f****** out of order. If you do it again, I am telling you you can f*** off and go to another ground. I will not come and stand for that f****** crap. No f***ing way, lies. F***, you’re saying I turned up and they [Newcastle’s players] f***** off.
SB: No Joe, have you read it, it doesn’t actually say that. Have you read it?
JK: I’ve f****** read it, I’ve read it.
SB: It doesn’t say that. Have you read it?
JK: You are trying to f****** undermine my position already.
SB: Have you read it, it doesn’t say that. I knew you knew they were having a day off.
JK: F*** off. F*** off. It’s your last f****** chance.
SB: You read the copy? It doesn’t say that you didn’t know.
JK: What about the headline, you think that’s a good headline?
SB: I didn’t write the headline, you read the copy.
JK: You are negative b*******, the pair of you.
SB: So if I get a new job next week would I take the first day off? No I wouldn’t. If I get a new job should I call my boss and tell him I am taking the first day off?
JK: It is none of your f****** business. What the f*** are you going to do? You ain’t got the balls to be a f****** manager. f******* day off. Do I want your opinion. Do I have to listen to you?
SB: No, you can listen to who you want.
JK: I had a 24-hour meeting with the entire staff.
SB: Joe, you are only here six weeks, you could have done that on Sunday, or Saturday night.
JK: No, no, no. I didn’t want to do it. I had some other things to do.
SB: What? More important things?
JK: What are you? My personal secretary? F*** off.
SB: You could have done the meeting Saturday night or Sunday. You could have had them watching videos, you could have organised them.
JK: I was meeting the f****** chairman the owner, everyone else. Talking about things.
SB: It is a valid point that was made in there. A valid point.
JK: I can’t trust any of you.
Niall Hickman: Joe, no one could believe that on your first day at your new club, the first-team players were not in. No one could believe it in town. Your first day in the office.
JK: My first day was with the coaches. I made the decision that I wanted to get as much information out of them.
NH: But why Monday, no one could believe it?
JK: I’m not going to tell you anything. I don’t understand where you are coming from. You are delighted that Newcastle are getting beat and are in the state they are? Delighted, are you?
NH: Certainly not. No one wants to see them get beaten, why would we?
JK: I have done it before. It is going to my f****** lawyers. So are about three others. If they can find something in it that is a court case it is going to court. I am not f****** about. I don’t talk to f****** anybody. It is raking up stories. You are f*** so f*** slimy you are raking up players that I got rid of. Players that I had fallen out with. You are not asking Robbie Earle, because he is sensible. You are not asking Warren Barton? No. Because he is f*** sensible. Anyone who had played for me for ten years at any level … [but] you will find some c*** that …
Other journalist: How long is your contract for Joe?
JK None of your business.
SB: Well it is actually, because we cover the club. The club say you are here to the end of October, then you say six to eight games which would take it to the end of November. We are trying to clarify these issues. We are getting no straight answers from anyone. How long are you here for. It is a dead simple question. And you don’t know …
JK: I was told the length of contract. Then I was told that possibly the club could be sold in that time. That is as far as I know. That’s it finished. I don’t know anything else. But I have been ridiculed. He’s trying to f*** hide, he’s trying to do this or that.
Steve Brenner (football writer for the Sun): We are all grown men and can come in here and sit around and talk about football, but coming in here and calling people c****?
JK: Why? Because I am annoyed. I am not accepting that. If it is libellous, it is going to where I want it to go.
Newcastle press officer: What has been said in here is off the record and doesn’t go outside.
Journalist: Well, is that what Joe thinks?
JK: Write what you like. Makes no difference to me. Don’t affect me I assure you. It’ll be the last time I see you anyway. Won’t affect me. See how we go at Everton and Chrissy [Chris Hughton] can do it, someone else can do it. Don’t trust any of yous. I will pick two local papers and speak to them and the rest can f*** off. I ain’t coming up here to have the piss taken out of me. I have a million pages of crap that has been written about me. I’m ridiculed for no reason. I’m defenceless. I can’t get a point in, I can’t say nothing, I can’t do nothing, but I ain’t going to be negative. Then, half of you, most of you are trying to get into the players. I’m not going to tell you what the players think of you, so then you try and get into them in some way or another, so I’ve got a split camp or something like that, something like that. It’s ongoing. It just doesn’t stop.
Journalist: It’s only been a week.
JK: Exactly. It feels more like a year.
Journalist: It’s early days for you to be like this.
JK: No, I’m clearing the air. And this is the last time I’m going to speak to you. You want to know why, I’m telling you. This is the last time. You can do what you like.
Journalist: But this isn’t going to do you or us any good.
JK: I’ll speak to the supporters. I’m going to tell them what the story is. I’m going to tell them. I don’t think they’ll interpret it any different, I don’t think they’ll mix it up, I don’t think they’ll miss out things. I mean, one of them last week said to me … I was talking about in that press conference where you were there, I said something like ‘Well, that’s a load of b*******…’
Journalist: ‘B******* to that’ is what you said.
JK: B******* to that. And what goes after that?
Journalist: That was it.
JK: No it wasn’t, no it wasn’t. What was after it? I don’t know if it was your paper, but what went after it?Journalist: I don’t know.
JK: It even had the cheek to say ‘b******* to Newcastle’.
Journalist: I didn’t write that.
JK: That was my first f****** day. What does that tell you? What does that tell you?
Journalist: Where was that? Which paper said that?
JK: I’ve got it. I can’t remember. It was one of the Sundays, not a Saturday. It was a Sunday.
Journalist: But you didn’t say that to the Sundays, you said that to us. That was during the Monday press conference.
JK: I’ll bring it in and show it to you. Why would I want to say that?
Journalist: Are you saying that someone has reported you saying ‘b******* to Newcastle?’
JK: Yes. Lovely.
Journalist: I don’t know who’s reported that.
JK: I’ll tell you what, I’ll bring it in.
Journalist: That’s obviously going to damage you. That’s not a good thing. But I don’t think someone’s done that. We have to have some sort of relationship with you.
JK: So have I. But I haven’t come in here for you lot to take the piss out of me. And if I’m not flavour of the month for you, it don’t f****** bother me. I’ve got a job to do. And I’m going to do it to the best of my ability. I’m not going to spend any more time listening to any crap or reading any crap. Stick to the truth and the facts. And don’t twist anything.
Journalist: You know, you know the game …
JK: Of course I know, but I don’t have to like it.
Journalist: Today we’ll print the absolute truth, that you think we’re c****, we can all f*** off and we’re slimy. Is that fair enough?
JK: Do it. Fine. F****** print it. Am I going to worry about it? Put in also that it’ll be the last time I see you. Put that in as well. Good. Do it.
After long discussions over whether Kinnear had promised Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan would be returning to the club
Press officer: Let’s get on to football. Let’s have an agreement that everything said so far, if anyone has got their tapes on, it’s wiped off and we’re not discussing it.
Journalist: But that’s what Joe has said he thinks of us.
Press officer: I’m saying don’t push it. Let’s accept what’s been said and try and move on.
Journalist: Move on to not doing any more press conferences?
PO: No, to doing something now.
Journalist: What, one press conference only?
(Silence)
Journalist: Any knocks?
PO: Come on, let’s go football.
Journalist: What are your plans for training in the next three days? How’s the training going?
JK: It’s going very well. No problems at all.
Journalist: Enjoyed getting back in the swing of things?
JK Absolutely. I’ve loved every moment of it.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2008/10/03/full-transcript-of-joe-kinnears-foul-mouthed-p...
Full transcript of Joe Kinnear’s foul-mouthed press conference rant
Friday 3 Oct 2008 12:35 pm
This is an edited transcript of Joe Kinnear’s first official press conference
JK: Which one is Simon Bird [Daily Mirror football writer]?
SB: Me.
JK: You’re a C***.
SB: Thank you.
JK: Which one is Hickman [Niall, football writer for the Express]? You are out of order. Absolutely f****** out of order. If you do it again, I am telling you you can f*** off and go to another ground. I will not come and stand for that f****** crap. No f***ing way, lies. F***, you’re saying I turned up and they [Newcastle’s players] f***** off.
SB: No Joe, have you read it, it doesn’t actually say that. Have you read it?
JK: I’ve f****** read it, I’ve read it.
SB: It doesn’t say that. Have you read it?
JK: You are trying to f****** undermine my position already.
SB: Have you read it, it doesn’t say that. I knew you knew they were having a day off.
JK: F*** off. F*** off. It’s your last f****** chance.
SB: You read the copy? It doesn’t say that you didn’t know.
JK: What about the headline, you think that’s a good headline?
SB: I didn’t write the headline, you read the copy.
JK: You are negative b*******, the pair of you.
SB: So if I get a new job next week would I take the first day off? No I wouldn’t. If I get a new job should I call my boss and tell him I am taking the first day off?
JK: It is none of your f****** business. What the f*** are you going to do? You ain’t got the balls to be a f****** manager. f******* day off. Do I want your opinion. Do I have to listen to you?
SB: No, you can listen to who you want.
JK: I had a 24-hour meeting with the entire staff.
SB: Joe, you are only here six weeks, you could have done that on Sunday, or Saturday night.
JK: No, no, no. I didn’t want to do it. I had some other things to do.
SB: What? More important things?
JK: What are you? My personal secretary? F*** off.
SB: You could have done the meeting Saturday night or Sunday. You could have had them watching videos, you could have organised them.
JK: I was meeting the f****** chairman the owner, everyone else. Talking about things.
SB: It is a valid point that was made in there. A valid point.
JK: I can’t trust any of you.
Niall Hickman: Joe, no one could believe that on your first day at your new club, the first-team players were not in. No one could believe it in town. Your first day in the office.
JK: My first day was with the coaches. I made the decision that I wanted to get as much information out of them.
NH: But why Monday, no one could believe it?
JK: I’m not going to tell you anything. I don’t understand where you are coming from. You are delighted that Newcastle are getting beat and are in the state they are? Delighted, are you?
NH: Certainly not. No one wants to see them get beaten, why would we?
JK: I have done it before. It is going to my f****** lawyers. So are about three others. If they can find something in it that is a court case it is going to court. I am not f****** about. I don’t talk to f****** anybody. It is raking up stories. You are f*** so f*** slimy you are raking up players that I got rid of. Players that I had fallen out with. You are not asking Robbie Earle, because he is sensible. You are not asking Warren Barton? No. Because he is f*** sensible. Anyone who had played for me for ten years at any level … [but] you will find some c*** that …
Other journalist: How long is your contract for Joe?
JK None of your business.
SB: Well it is actually, because we cover the club. The club say you are here to the end of October, then you say six to eight games which would take it to the end of November. We are trying to clarify these issues. We are getting no straight answers from anyone. How long are you here for. It is a dead simple question. And you don’t know …
JK: I was told the length of contract. Then I was told that possibly the club could be sold in that time. That is as far as I know. That’s it finished. I don’t know anything else. But I have been ridiculed. He’s trying to f*** hide, he’s trying to do this or that.
Steve Brenner (football writer for the Sun): We are all grown men and can come in here and sit around and talk about football, but coming in here and calling people c****?
JK: Why? Because I am annoyed. I am not accepting that. If it is libellous, it is going to where I want it to go.
Newcastle press officer: What has been said in here is off the record and doesn’t go outside.
Journalist: Well, is that what Joe thinks?
JK: Write what you like. Makes no difference to me. Don’t affect me I assure you. It’ll be the last time I see you anyway. Won’t affect me. See how we go at Everton and Chrissy [Chris Hughton] can do it, someone else can do it. Don’t trust any of yous. I will pick two local papers and speak to them and the rest can f*** off. I ain’t coming up here to have the piss taken out of me. I have a million pages of crap that has been written about me. I’m ridiculed for no reason. I’m defenceless. I can’t get a point in, I can’t say nothing, I can’t do nothing, but I ain’t going to be negative. Then, half of you, most of you are trying to get into the players. I’m not going to tell you what the players think of you, so then you try and get into them in some way or another, so I’ve got a split camp or something like that, something like that. It’s ongoing. It just doesn’t stop.
Journalist: It’s only been a week.
JK: Exactly. It feels more like a year.
Journalist: It’s early days for you to be like this.
JK: No, I’m clearing the air. And this is the last time I’m going to speak to you. You want to know why, I’m telling you. This is the last time. You can do what you like.
Journalist: But this isn’t going to do you or us any good.
JK: I’ll speak to the supporters. I’m going to tell them what the story is. I’m going to tell them. I don’t think they’ll interpret it any different, I don’t think they’ll mix it up, I don’t think they’ll miss out things. I mean, one of them last week said to me … I was talking about in that press conference where you were there, I said something like ‘Well, that’s a load of b*******…’
Journalist: ‘B******* to that’ is what you said.
JK: B******* to that. And what goes after that?
Journalist: That was it.
JK: No it wasn’t, no it wasn’t. What was after it? I don’t know if it was your paper, but what went after it?Journalist: I don’t know.
JK: It even had the cheek to say ‘b******* to Newcastle’.
Journalist: I didn’t write that.
JK: That was my first f****** day. What does that tell you? What does that tell you?
Journalist: Where was that? Which paper said that?
JK: I’ve got it. I can’t remember. It was one of the Sundays, not a Saturday. It was a Sunday.
Journalist: But you didn’t say that to the Sundays, you said that to us. That was during the Monday press conference.
JK: I’ll bring it in and show it to you. Why would I want to say that?
Journalist: Are you saying that someone has reported you saying ‘b******* to Newcastle?’
JK: Yes. Lovely.
Journalist: I don’t know who’s reported that.
JK: I’ll tell you what, I’ll bring it in.
Journalist: That’s obviously going to damage you. That’s not a good thing. But I don’t think someone’s done that. We have to have some sort of relationship with you.
JK: So have I. But I haven’t come in here for you lot to take the piss out of me. And if I’m not flavour of the month for you, it don’t f****** bother me. I’ve got a job to do. And I’m going to do it to the best of my ability. I’m not going to spend any more time listening to any crap or reading any crap. Stick to the truth and the facts. And don’t twist anything.
Journalist: You know, you know the game …
JK: Of course I know, but I don’t have to like it.
Journalist: Today we’ll print the absolute truth, that you think we’re c****, we can all f*** off and we’re slimy. Is that fair enough?
JK: Do it. Fine. F****** print it. Am I going to worry about it? Put in also that it’ll be the last time I see you. Put that in as well. Good. Do it.
After long discussions over whether Kinnear had promised Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan would be returning to the club
Press officer: Let’s get on to football. Let’s have an agreement that everything said so far, if anyone has got their tapes on, it’s wiped off and we’re not discussing it.
Journalist: But that’s what Joe has said he thinks of us.
Press officer: I’m saying don’t push it. Let’s accept what’s been said and try and move on.
Journalist: Move on to not doing any more press conferences?
PO: No, to doing something now.
Journalist: What, one press conference only?
(Silence)
Journalist: Any knocks?
PO: Come on, let’s go football.
Journalist: What are your plans for training in the next three days? How’s the training going?
JK: It’s going very well. No problems at all.
Journalist: Enjoyed getting back in the swing of things?
JK Absolutely. I’ve loved every moment of it.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2008/10/03/full-transcript-of-joe-kinnears-foul-mouthed-p...
sixtwosix
I would almost guarantee that will be said in my pub this afternoon!
I would almost guarantee that will be said in my pub this afternoon!
https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=aa7_1490982861
This is how you take offence!
This is how you take offence!
I disagree with anyone who agrees with Gary Vinegar.
Surely,it would have been perfectly acceptable under sharia law for Moyes to carry out his comment ? The BBC wouldn't have covered it in case it concerned diversity and cultural relations so it would have stayed under the media radar.
Maybe I should have called the police and reported all my ex boyfriends for threatening behaviour when they said they were going to put me over their knee and spank me for being naughty
Do you mind annie.. I'm trying to watch the football. Not easy to concentrate with a semi!
this guy is gonna end up in the middle of the town square with his trousers down and in stocks.
one slip of the tongue ends with a pitchfork up yer arris.
one slip of the tongue ends with a pitchfork up yer arris.
Wasn't this just a case of a manager trying to-however gently- intimidate a troublesome reporter from asking troublesome questions, and nothing to do with gender? I'm sure Ferguson used to do the same thing, and there was never this much fuss. Are women supposed to be treated differently to men in these situations?
Intimidate ???????????????? Come on saddo, a throwaway comment from a man who is decency personified. If he can endure mrs T and her mates joking at him in a restaurant the guy is never the intimidation style football manager. Every twopenny journalist and quango woman has lined up to spout the rubbish just to fill in media columns. Todays paper includes details about a 30 year old who has beaten up 7 girlfriends,given them 5 kids and has to notify the police whenever he gets a more permanent girlfriend of 14 days in case he gets violent and that merits a quarter of a page !!!! Where are they on that ?
what all you nazi xylophones don't realise this is a wonderful opportunity to de-sex the male
it is wonderful chance for guardianistas
meanwhile in the middle east millions of women are controlled and exploited by men
beaten, stoned and executed but............it's cultural innit
it is wonderful chance for guardianistas
meanwhile in the middle east millions of women are controlled and exploited by men
beaten, stoned and executed but............it's cultural innit
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