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Callisto-moon
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Report stewarty b March 22, 2017 12:58 PM GMT
I had a pal who used to holiday in Jersey and he used to take back two or three krugerrands in his pocket to avoid VAT. Gold can go up and down like anything else but sovereigns are classed as legal tender so no VAT has to be payed for them.

That was back in the ninties so I'm not up to speed with the latest scenario but if it was the same I would have thought sovereigns would be a better investment.

Some looking in will be up to date on the matter and advise you better.
Report Jack Hacksaw March 22, 2017 1:05 PM GMT
Not if you leave them in the bottom of a piano - and don't tell anyone.
Report 1st time poster March 22, 2017 1:09 PM GMT
if you buy them retail your obviously paying a premium before you start,instead of putting money in the bank for the grandson we started buying 1 or 2 a year got 4 upto now ,maybe hit will give him an interest later on if not a profit,but looking back thin king we should have bought them at auction,online,etc
Report saddo March 22, 2017 1:11 PM GMT
If you watch RT there are only two investments on this planet. Gold coins, and funeral plans.
Report zorrostrikes March 22, 2017 2:03 PM GMT
the Kaiser report has been banging the drum for 8 years? gold or bitcoin.

but if fiat money does get flushed, the government would just impound all private gold.
they've done it in the past.
buy toilet paper or some other commodity that will be needed?

i noticed that the dvd folder in the pound shop is now £2? it was a pound a year ago.

so just go to the cash and carry - buy some stock and sit on it for a year and then sell it on ebay?
Report hologon March 22, 2017 2:43 PM GMT
A better investment gold ones than plastic ones
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 22, 2017 3:27 PM GMT
Seems to be ever so easy to buy them, but bloody difficult to sell them, which tells me something about the price.

Yes, I know how you're supposed to be able to find a buyer for gold or use it as currency anywhere in the world. But in reality it seems the only business which actually will buy your sov off you is the one which sold it to you in the first place. And for a hell of a lot less than you paid for it too.
Report Jack Hacksaw March 22, 2017 6:29 PM GMT
eBay
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 22, 2017 6:40 PM GMT
Wouldn't HMRC take an interest in people offering gold coins on ebay?
Report Jack Hacksaw March 23, 2017 9:21 AM GMT
I don't know.

I sold 2 x half-sovereigns a few years ago on eBay and haven't had a knock on the door from a tax inspector yet.
Report Jack Hacksaw March 23, 2017 9:23 AM GMT
At least with eBay you have a source of information as to what is actually paid, rather than what dealers would like.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 23, 2017 10:05 AM GMT
Fair enough. I'm self-employed, but happily don't get any grief from the Revenue. I'd like to keep it that way, which is why I've never touched eBay with a bargepole.
Report zorrostrikes March 23, 2017 10:36 PM GMT
buy vegetable oil.
Report Callisto-moon March 23, 2017 11:55 PM GMT
Why?
Report zorrostrikes March 24, 2017 12:00 AM GMT
you can eat it - or fuel a diesel car.
Report SlippyBlue March 24, 2017 12:13 AM GMT
"I've killed women and children. I've killed everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you done to Ned."
Report Callisto-moon March 24, 2017 12:39 AM GMT
Pretty hard to store the quantities you would require zorro.
Report running on the spot March 24, 2017 4:53 AM GMT
Certain whiskey is a good investment if you can get it at good price and you are willing to hold on to it
Report Captain Christy March 24, 2017 6:59 AM GMT
I used to be in gold bullion, the coins have no intrinsic value, they are melted down and you are paid the daily gold rate.
Report Jack Hacksaw March 24, 2017 9:26 AM GMT
I have a case of whisky in the loft!
Report running on the spot March 24, 2017 10:51 AM GMT
What kind  hacksaw ?
Got some nice ones stored here got 4 bottles managed to pick them up for around £150!
Could probably sell now for £380
Report Jack Hacksaw March 24, 2017 11:23 AM GMT
Nothing valuable.  I can't even remember which brand.
Report Just Checking March 24, 2017 6:18 PM GMT
I've considered this myself. Just for the novelty of a sovereign or having a tiny gold bar that I could stroke and say "my precious".

Interestingly the Sovereign isn't the most valuable, it's the rarer upgraded Britannia, you should read this article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/11114204/Cheapest-way-to-buy-Royal-Mint-gold-Not-from-the-Royal-Mint.html

There was a news story recently about someone finding a load of them in a piano.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-39282466
You'd think they'd own them outright but apparently that's not the way the rules work.
Report Callisto-moon March 25, 2017 6:41 PM GMT
Cheers just checking that's a good read.
The reason I asked is that the 2017 sovs are a bit different.
They have a small shield to mark the 200 years of them being made.
Report stickyvicky March 27, 2017 11:48 PM BST
Gold coin in the Guinness Book of Records is stolen, it is worth as much as $4.5M

[AP]. A massive gold coin worth millions of dollars vanished from the Bode Museum, Berlin in the middle of the night, police in Germany announced Monday, saying a team of thieves managed to steal the 221-pound weight currency before cops could arrive.
It's listed in the Guinness Book of Records for its purity of 999.99/1000 gold, according to the Bode Museum in Berlin, which housed the coin.

It has a portrait of Queen Elizabeth II on one side and maple leaves on the other. The coin is 1.18-inch-thick with a diameter of 20.9 inches,
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