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That long post of yours is actually quite reasonable, Breedingmad. I don't agree with all of it, but at least respect it as a point of view because you wrote it fairly as an opinion. Perhaps the tide is turning.
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153 dead in Paris shootings, Stade De France Stadium Explosions all seem to be a distant memory, If the same had happened at say Wembley and The Royal Albert Hall would everybody be so carefree and laissez-faire about the situation. I think not.
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we have had plenty of terrorism in this country over the past 40 years or so
i dont think brits are laissez-faire about it |
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7/7 Etc hardly Forgotten Never Mind Paris ,The Problem is that these Incidents are now Expected and Accepted ,One Just hopes not to be Involved in Them .
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The threat europe faces is a vastly different proposition now. The military wing of the organisation has ACTUAL support here in the UK and europe wide. Polls have shown this. Of course we know a europhile like bleeding is going to pitch the 'WELL THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH DANGER AT ALL' propaganda. But then he has an agenda to follow from his eu masters and his connections.
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Kahn says get used to it.
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That was despicable from Khan. Odious individual. There should be a mechanism to sack elected officials like him when they come out with stuff like that - or at the very least force another election.
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thought you boys didnt do revotes ?
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In other news...
Are the Turks stirring it up in Rotterdam over the weekend ? Just the final push Geert Wilders campaign needed going into the Election this week. |
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his poll rating is falling, very surprising given events of the last week or so
maybe he will get the late undetected ( by polls) surge of votes in real event ? |
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The old saying 'a week in politics is a long time' comes to mind, this should be an interesting week in Holland.
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should get even more interesting after the vote too
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guinny losing the plot, taken his ban badly
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It has just clicked with me why erdthegoon has gone berserk!! They don't like dogs so much do they. Guess what they did to rioting muslims. Yep, turned the dogs on them!!!
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Is this a right wing group/publisher - I was not aware of them before.
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3807/no-new-police-station-in-rinkeby-no-one-dares-build-it.html |
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Saudi Historian Al-Saadoon: Women Share Responsibility If Raped by Foreign Taxi Drivers
In a follow up to a previous show, in which he said that for Western women, getting raped is not a cultural problem, Saudi historian Saleh Al-Saadoon claimed that his comments were falsely translated. Later on in the show he said that women who ride taxis driven by foreign drivers share the responsibility if they get raped. Following are excerpts: Reporter: On January 11, we held a discussion on our program with Saudi historian Dr. Saleh Al-Saddoon, who believes that the West conspires against Saudi women. Saleh Al-Saadoon: Women used to ride camels, so one might ask what prevents them from driving cars. In Saudi Arabia, we have special circumstances. The city of Arar is 150 km away from Al-Jawf. From Al-Awf to Al-Ha’il it is 400 km. If a woman drives from one city to another and her car breaks down, what will become of her? Reporter: Well, women drive in America, in Europe, and in the Arab world… Saleh Al-Saadoon: They don’t care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do… Reporter: Hold on, who told you that they don’t care about getting raped by the roadside? Saleh Al-Saadoon: It’s no big deal for them beyond the damage to their morale. Reporter: A few days ago, about a month after the interview, excerpts from the interview appeared in Western and European media and other outlets. The international press published detailed excerpts in various languages. Why did the interview raise such a great uproar, and how does Dr. Al-Saadoon respond to the international media coverage of his views on women’s driving? […] Saleh Al-Saadoon: [The media’s response to what I said] was a surprise by any standard. I was especially surprised by the false translation. This was not an objective translation or a simple mistake. This was a deliberate and methodical falsification. I don’t know if… Reporter: How can you talk about falsification? They presented a video excerpt, not just something written. What was written was a detailed translation of the interview. Saleh Al-Saadoon: They translated what I said. As you recall, sister Nadeen, we talked, but I did not say: “Women who drive cars do not care about being raped.” The Daily Mail, for example, wrote: “A Saudi historian says that American women drive cars because rape is no big deal for them.” This is not what I said. […] I explained that they have no problem [with rape] from the religious and social aspects. Their problem is limited to their morale and to psychological aspects. I continue to maintain this. Western women are liberal. They are not governed by Christianity. They do not believe in Christianity. […] Unless they are old, Western women are usually not religious – except for a handful of women who go proselytizing in Africa. […] According to Islamic scholars, women are forbidden to ride in a taxi driven by a foreigner. If she does so, and the driver kidnaps and rapes her, she will be partially responsible, because she exposed herself to danger. […] This is not my view. I’m just telling you the view of society. Don’t blame me for conveying the views of 80% of Arab and Islamic society. […] Reporter: Some people turn the victim into the criminal, but these views do not represent 80% of us. Saleh Al-Saadoon: Many Saudis, Arabs, and Muslims hold this view – regardless of whether it is 70% or 90%. [ This image is no longer available. ] |
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This is just right wing (whoops I mean) alt right propaganda.(sorry I slipped off the agenda newspeak agenda). We have to understand they have different cultural views and expectations. The poor things. Ah bless.
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This is the 'Historian' who doesn't like taxis..
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It's a shame us humans are so extremely different to each other we can't get on together. us Brits would never fall for this religious baloney
and divide people over their religious beliefs, now would we!. |
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it's "railway station" not "train station"
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How typical. Make something of a totally irrelevant aspect of the thread title instead of its real issues. Anyone else notice a pattern here?
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The eu open door supporters simply don't want to discuss or even know about it
Their 'free speech' newspaper, the guardian does exactly that and they follow the eu agenda and the newpaper's line. If you only read the guardian you would think the only problem around was trump and wee Nickie (plus a little bit of corbyn) |
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I've heard virtually nothing about this attack since the day it happened. Anybody know of any new info?
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Is it deliberately being kept out of the news because of the Dutch election tomorrow?
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That's a very creepy picture btw Guinness. He looks like something out of a horror film.
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don't read the evening standard or the stuff about preston elsewhere - I would be accused of being a bigot if I told you to look
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@ needs to learn about caps starting sentences before he preaches (when my backs turned)
But he will keep for another day.. |
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Any news?
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Any news on the attacker?
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Being kept remarkably quiet, hmm?
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France today eh; getting closer..
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some stations I have seen need more than attacking - they need demolition!!! some awful examples around!!!
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Have they named the Duesseldorf attacker yet?
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Bill - to go with Ben.... Flobalobble..
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Virtual silence from media on this despicable attack. Sickening how these sort of terrorist incidents are deliberately hushed up so as not to offend a certain religion!
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Torquemada 19 Mar 17 00:30
Have they named the Duesseldorf attacker yet? He has been named on this thread at least twice. |
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Page 5 by me and page 7 by trilby, if that helps, and my settings are 40 posts per page.
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Fatmir H you mean? I meant his full name not an abbreviation, which on past form might bear little relation to the truth.
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Damn, my money was on Dave again.
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I've still heard nothing more on the news about these two attackers, it's deliberately being kept quiet.
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