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Burt06
01 Mar 17 19:15
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Right, these enemies of the people have spoken. It is time for the people to speak now.

Let's have a referendum on the very exsistence of this stain on democracy.
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Report Burt06 • March 1, 2017 7:23 PM GMT
get this signed

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/170686

time for them to go
Report Mick Sturbs • March 1, 2017 7:28 PM GMT
Done
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 7:31 PM GMT
More concerned about foreigners than their fellow British citizens.
Report Wallflower • March 1, 2017 7:33 PM GMT
.."enemies of the people". FFSLaughLaugh.

Lords is right on this part of it anyway. The conditions EU citizens came here should be honoured. End of.
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 7:41 PM GMT
What about the 1m+ UK citizens in Europe that the EU have refused to guarantee the right to remain?
Report donny osmond • March 1, 2017 7:43 PM GMT
the will of the people is surely that these folk are allowed to stay

if there was a referendum i'd have thought overwhelming majority
would support them staying

i understand some want to use then as bargaining chips but shirley
we are better than that, and eu wont send brits home anyway
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 7:47 PM GMT
Tis not a case of being better than that Donny but a case of not hanging out the UK people in the rest of the EU.
Why wouldn't the EU guarantee that? TM has already stated what the UKs position is so why aint you waving yer stick at the EU.
Report Wallflower • March 1, 2017 7:51 PM GMT
.....not sure what (if any) statement was made about that - though EU is basically saying nothing until article 50 is triggered.

However....this "whatabout..this" and "whatabout that..." type of argument prevalent on here means most of the debates end up in circles or cul-de-sacs.

On the issue itself they are right, irrespective of any other factors........whether this is the time to make a stand (however brief) on it is debatable.
Report Wallflower • March 1, 2017 7:53 PM GMT
"Should EU citizens living here by allowed to stay"...Yes or No. To me the answer is "yes".

What EU do or don't do, what economic impact it has etc - is just fluff.
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 7:55 PM GMT
Virtue signalling at it's worst.
Report donny osmond • March 1, 2017 8:00 PM GMT
most of them are working, we need em
Report Wallflower • March 1, 2017 8:04 PM GMT
pseudo-psycho claptrap.

Do you believe EU citizens living here should be allowed to stay?

Possible Answers

(a) Yes
(b) No
(c) Conditionally -  e.g if EU reciprocates

My position is clear, and can give reasons - can you?
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 8:08 PM GMT
Fortunately it isn't up to you WF.
I agree with TM on the matter, EU citizens in the UK should be allowed to stay and that will be the UK stance when negotiations start.
Why won't the EU make a similar statement?
Report Wallflower • March 1, 2017 8:09 PM GMT
thx you agree with me and TM.

good. end of.

(because they are not negotiating yet)
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 8:16 PM GMT
But the EU are making them negotiating chips not the UK.
Would be silly to agree to let them stay without a counter guarantee.
Report Wallflower • March 1, 2017 8:23 PM GMT
Oh Aka, give it a rest. EU are not negotiating - there is nothing to negotiate yet - they've made that clear. They are obviously preparing - but they are the responders not the initiators. Initiation hasn't happened yet so pointless talking about non existent "negotiating chips"
Report xmoneyx • March 1, 2017 8:25 PM GMT
PM May call a election

put reduce House of Lords  too 200 in manifesto
Report akabula • March 1, 2017 8:51 PM GMT
Wallflower you raised the subject. Bit of a buttercup aint you. Laugh
Report treetop • March 1, 2017 9:18 PM GMT
Agree with xmoney, redeuce the Lords to 200 but make them accountable and removeable. As regards EU nationals,it is perfectly reasonable to confirm their status to remove any uncertainty,I really couldn't imagine the EU behaving like spoilt brats without showing themselves up.
Report GoOnThen • March 1, 2017 9:37 PM GMT
Duly signed.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • March 1, 2017 10:01 PM GMT
I would not have a problem with working EU citizens staying after brexit, but saying they can all stay seems a strange thing to want or be promised.
Report twizzle22 • March 1, 2017 10:15 PM GMT
Grandstanding by a load of old dinosaurs..Britain becoming the dumping ground for all Eastern European freeloaders..come one come all..everything is free and if its not just thieve it
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