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Burt06
01 Mar 17 19:15
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Right, these enemies of the people have spoken. It is time for the people to speak now.

Let's have a referendum on the very exsistence of this stain on democracy.

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By:
Burt06
When: 01 Mar 17 19:23
get this signed

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/170686

time for them to go
By:
Mick Sturbs
When: 01 Mar 17 19:28
Done
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 19:31
More concerned about foreigners than their fellow British citizens.
By:
Wallflower
When: 01 Mar 17 19:33
.."enemies of the people". FFSLaughLaugh.

Lords is right on this part of it anyway. The conditions EU citizens came here should be honoured. End of.
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 19:41
What about the 1m+ UK citizens in Europe that the EU have refused to guarantee the right to remain?
By:
donny osmond
When: 01 Mar 17 19:43
the will of the people is surely that these folk are allowed to stay

if there was a referendum i'd have thought overwhelming majority
would support them staying

i understand some want to use then as bargaining chips but shirley
we are better than that, and eu wont send brits home anyway
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 19:47
Tis not a case of being better than that Donny but a case of not hanging out the UK people in the rest of the EU.
Why wouldn't the EU guarantee that? TM has already stated what the UKs position is so why aint you waving yer stick at the EU.
By:
Wallflower
When: 01 Mar 17 19:51
.....not sure what (if any) statement was made about that - though EU is basically saying nothing until article 50 is triggered.

However....this "whatabout..this" and "whatabout that..." type of argument prevalent on here means most of the debates end up in circles or cul-de-sacs.

On the issue itself they are right, irrespective of any other factors........whether this is the time to make a stand (however brief) on it is debatable.
By:
Wallflower
When: 01 Mar 17 19:53
"Should EU citizens living here by allowed to stay"...Yes or No. To me the answer is "yes".

What EU do or don't do, what economic impact it has etc - is just fluff.
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 19:55
Virtue signalling at it's worst.
By:
donny osmond
When: 01 Mar 17 20:00
most of them are working, we need em
By:
Wallflower
When: 01 Mar 17 20:04
pseudo-psycho claptrap.

Do you believe EU citizens living here should be allowed to stay?

Possible Answers

(a) Yes
(b) No
(c) Conditionally -  e.g if EU reciprocates

My position is clear, and can give reasons - can you?
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 20:08
Fortunately it isn't up to you WF.
I agree with TM on the matter, EU citizens in the UK should be allowed to stay and that will be the UK stance when negotiations start.
Why won't the EU make a similar statement?
By:
Wallflower
When: 01 Mar 17 20:09
thx you agree with me and TM.

good. end of.

(because they are not negotiating yet)
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 20:16
But the EU are making them negotiating chips not the UK.
Would be silly to agree to let them stay without a counter guarantee.
By:
Wallflower
When: 01 Mar 17 20:23
Oh Aka, give it a rest. EU are not negotiating - there is nothing to negotiate yet - they've made that clear. They are obviously preparing - but they are the responders not the initiators. Initiation hasn't happened yet so pointless talking about non existent "negotiating chips"
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 17 20:25
PM May call a election

put reduce House of Lords  too 200 in manifesto
By:
akabula
When: 01 Mar 17 20:51
Wallflower you raised the subject. Bit of a buttercup aint you. Laugh
By:
treetop
When: 01 Mar 17 21:18
Agree with xmoney, redeuce the Lords to 200 but make them accountable and removeable. As regards EU nationals,it is perfectly reasonable to confirm their status to remove any uncertainty,I really couldn't imagine the EU behaving like spoilt brats without showing themselves up.
By:
GoOnThen
When: 01 Mar 17 21:37
Duly signed.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 01 Mar 17 22:01
I would not have a problem with working EU citizens staying after brexit, but saying they can all stay seems a strange thing to want or be promised.
By:
twizzle22
When: 01 Mar 17 22:15
Grandstanding by a load of old dinosaurs..Britain becoming the dumping ground for all Eastern European freeloaders..come one come all..everything is free and if its not just thieve it
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