Has this forum become a loony left echo chamber?

Oh, and we can add Pandora to the list. I forgot about him.

You would seem to think that anyone not extreme right wing is a loony left poster

Everyone else on here is extreme right wing are they?

Just following your lead.

Torquemada is a sandwich short of a picnic, best ignored.

Take Tobermory for example, the person who started the latest thread. I don't think he holds extreme right wing views nor loony left luvvie nonsense. He seems quite measured to me. So your accusation is clearly rubbish, Fife.

If only you had the willpower to ignore me SH. But you just can't do it mate, it would eat you up to block me, you just couldn't handle it.
Facts tried it and failed miserably.

shouldn't you be in bed, resting for the hard week's scaffolding ahead?

Farage and Trump

http://www.captiongenerator.com/320062/FARAGE-AND-TRUMP-#.WIKxJkJFqsE.email

You are not wrong Torq.

I suspect very few on here hold far right views. It seems to be a typical accusation from the loony left towards anyone who stands up against their delusional nonsense. The truth is those who get labelled as far right tend to be just right of centre. Loony lefties call their extreme left politicians "moderates!"

What is meant by holding far right views?

Not pretending that unlimited immigration is good for the nation, apparently.

Who knows anymore Dr Crippen? The loonies accuse so many ordinary people of being far right it has become difficult to know what it means.

Stupid lib dem on the election coverage on thursday said the TORIES were "far right".

That's how bad it's got with these idiots.

The BNP are supposed to far right, but if you look at their list of policies they're the same as Labour apart from immigration.

Same with the by-election at Stoke.

A very high proportion voting to leave the EU and obviously fed up with immigration, yet Labour easily wins the by-election.

Are these Stoke voters far right?

Corbyn..fck him..the scruffy cnt..that clip is hilarious kenny

Good list that torquemada..reckon you've got all of the idiots there

Stoke probably has a good mix of all sorts of political views, very few of them extreme I should imagine. The difference with right wingers is that they will accept the loss to Labour as fair democracy in action, and not take to the streets to whinge about the unfairness of it all, stamping their feet in a hissy fit.

Torquemada is a scaffolder?

Should visit hong kong : Bamboo scaffolding right up the side of huge skyscrapers :)

Fancy working on this?

http://i.imgur.com/GTDJoA6.jpg

Stoke would have won that by-election if Nuttall had not been involved..the scouser is pure toxic..its no wonder Banks is threatening to cut UKIP adrift

^^It's easy to see how he lost his teeth.

Torquemada, you (and a few others) have transformed this forum from being the fun - chit-chat - place it was into the awful excuse of a forum with about 10% of its former traffic by using it to perpetuate the non-stop pseudo-fascist, daily mail love-in, rubbish.
There are no words available to ever stop the nonsense that you never cease putting on here.

The Trump/Brexit/Immigrant/anti leftie (anyone who doesn't agree with every word)/Farage/BBC drivel never stops.
It's boring and in the main wrong, but populist in a 'let's all be mates on a forum' and agree with what we can glean from each other here.

You don't seem to allow accurate information get in the way either!

The flies round the poop that is this thread have appeared in support of the vitriol.

The list of your friends on here is longer than the list of the enemies you'd like to have on here.
(I suspect it's the reverse at work).

There are FAR more posts started by you and your "buddies" than by the list you started this thread with.

Why not just use the politics forum?
You can all rub each other up the right way on there and not be interrupted by anyone much, or maybe it flies in the face of the "spreading the word on as many forums as possible" which was a tenet of the existence of the BNP.

The majority of foot stamping is definitely yours, btw.

This is an example of an right wing extremist hth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Tom%C3%A1s_de_Torquemada

^The video.

I know bamboo is very strong, I wouldn't want to test it though thanks very much!

Dave 1357...four runner race £10 ew on a 5/1 winner..what yer make the return?

The usual delusional nonsense from Studyform. Who is on this long list of far righters then? Let's have it.

On this thread alone we have the ever present loony lefties

Fife
Scandinavian Haven
Dave1357
Studyform

And it's barely a page deep. Your lot are forever telling others to ignore or block me, but are absolutely incapable if following your own advice. You have to read my threads, it would eat you up not to know.

Come on now Dave..its not that difficult

The forum's not as good as it was blah blah blah
People like you are ruining it blah blah blah
I'm leaving forever blah blah blah

You've been spouting that nonsense ad nauseum for years Studyform. The truth is that the forum would be a much better place without your constant whinging and whining.

And in the Blue corner,
Torquemada
Crippen
JC
twizzle
Saddo
Go on then

So I make that about the same as usual.
See? you can't count.

I never mentioned far-righters, I just mentioned immovable objects on forums.

STUDYFORM
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Torquemada, you (and a few others) have transformed this forum from being the fun - chit-chat - place it was into the awful excuse of a forum with about 10% of its former traffic by using it to perpetuate the non-stop pseudo-fascist, daily mail love-in, rubbish.
There are no words available to ever stop the nonsense that you never cease putting on here.

The Trump/Brexit/Immigrant/anti leftie (anyone who doesn't agree with every word)/Farage/BBC drivel never stops.
It's boring and in the main wrong, but populist in a 'let's all be mates on a forum' and agree with what we can glean from each other here.

You don't seem to allow accurate information get in the way either!

The flies round the poop that is this thread have appeared in support of the vitriol.

The list of your friends on here is longer than the list of the enemies you'd like to have on here.
(I suspect it's the reverse at work).

There are FAR more posts started by you and your "buddies" than by the list you started this thread with.

Why not just use the politics forum?
You can all rub each other up the right way on there and not be interrupted by anyone much, or maybe it flies in the face of the "spreading the word on as many forums as possible" which was a tenet of the existence of the BNP.

The majority of foot stamping is definitely yours, btw.


Good post, Study, politics talk really should be kept to the politics forum, I think politics here brings out the worst in the right leaning people who are still so on a high after the last years events they can't quite contain themselves or maintain their dignity. Like children at the end of race jumping and screaming "we won"

Gullible stooges like twizzle22 who doesn't have a tenth of the intelligence or wit of all the posters he insults, yet insists on foisting his juvenile, sixth forum politics on to them and endorsing posts of people who unbeknown to him, have him on a string.

Feb 26, 2017 -- 7:50PM, twizzle22 wrote:

Dave 1357...four runner race £10 ew on a 5/1 winner..what yer make the return?

twizzle I had no difficulty at all with that aspect of the issue, you, on the other hand, had difficulty constructing a complex sentence.

dave1357    23 Feb 17 19:34 
Betfair's rules:

If any race is reduced to four runners or less, all each-way bets will be taken as ‘all-to-win’ given that there are no places

The problem is that a double is just a double, the order of the events should be irrelevant.  If you go with the 4 horse race first, it becomes a win double and loses.  Go in the actual order of events, you have a place bet in a race which doesn't have place betting.

Def one for IBAS more to see what logic they use to refuse to pay out...

dave1357    23 Feb 17 20:03 
@penzance in this case they are order dependent, as I said, if the 4 horse race went off first, the first leg of the each way double becomes a win double because it is now 4 runners, but in the actual order of events you can argue that the place bet becomes a win bet.

Imagine if 5 horses had gone to post, he would have been settled place place it wouldn't matter which race went first.

@mmmalushka that's just the same question.  Because if you settle the bets in reverse the 4 horse race becomes win only, so it's a win double.

My only point here is that settling a double in a different order gives a different result, which really shouldn't happen with a double.

Oh dear David

Oh, and if you want a list of regular posters who are not 'loony left echo chamberites' the 7 you mentioned.

You can add my little list above to:

Akabula
Dotchinite
Ibrahima sonko
treetop
burt06
casemoney
stickyvicky
wildmanfromborneo

and others I can't think of right now
So that's 13 at least, who already agree with you, Torquemada.

I'd say the people you whinge about are in the minority.
So it's hardly an echo chamber, but I will grant you, the lunatics have indeed taken over the asylum.

Thanks Study. For someone on the right I'm guessing I can still claim two more miners strikes on my CV than you my old plastic leftie.

Twizzle I see you have a problem with sentences again

You said in this thread

Dave 1357...four runner race £10 ew on a 5/1 winner..what yer make the return?

You then kindly quoted my post which stated

dave1357    23 Feb 17 19:34
Betfair's rules:

If any race is reduced to four runners or less, all each-way bets will be taken as ‘all-to-win’ given that there are no places

Why would I have any difficulty with the issue when I posted the relevant rule.

If you actually meant to ridicule me for not knowing that if the first leg of an ew double is a 4 horse race and the horse wins, the returns of that bet are split into an each-way single on the second leg, then hurrah!  Well done!  But personally I'd be far more worried about getting confused with the relationships between words in a sentence, that you exhibited in that thread, rather than my simple case of ignorance.

Any minute now another Libtard Pandora will independently post some illiterate nonsense that has no relevance to whats being discussed and then run away..its what he does.Must kill him to read these posts and not have the intellect to interject and voice an opinion.

seriously twizzle get checked for dementia, you are very confused again

Kudos to you, goonthen.

Incidentally, I have NEVER claimed to be a leftie (although I probably am left of centre in my views - compared to you lot, I'm round the corner and as far away as it gets, and have only once voted Labour.
I just hate the crap I keep seeing on here and my I think fairly sound knowledge of history and my personal experiences (I've never been down the mines though) makes me loathe the Conservatives and even more, new right-wingers.

Dave1357.. iv'e spent enough time showing up your ignorance now please be a good lad and go to bed

Fair play SF.One of the wisest phrases I ever heard as a young socialist was.. "You'll never understand the mind of a Conservative until you've got something to conserve".Thatcher bless her, pulled the political stroke of the last century by selling council houses, thus presenting legions of now ex Labour voters with something to conserve.

STUDYFORM
Torquemada, you (and a few others) have transformed this forum from being the fun

Followed by reams and reams that would bore you to death.

Akabula, never missing a chance.

GoOnThen, what I understand less, is people voting Conservative who have NOTHING to conserve.

That's probably more of a woeful endightment of the current Labour leadership.Victory by omission of opposition.

Has this forum become a leftie echo chamber? No, it hasn`t become one, it always was one. Along with virtually every other public forum, and every form of mass media. What has happened, though, is that for the first time in most of our lifetimes, someone (Nigel and Donald) has had the audacity to point out the utter woefulness of all this pc bollox, how unnatural it all is, and how we`d all be better off finally ridding ourselves of what is nothing more than an `Emperor`s New Clothes` brainwashing, foist upon the Western world for generations.

So, all that`s changed is that the delicate little lefties are finally (and most unexpectedly, poor blossoms!), discovering how it is to have to live under the yoke of political oppression. Suck it up, lefties, we`ve suffered a lifetime waiting for sanity to be restored, most of it spent shaking our heads in disbelieving despair.

The sweetest bit? The knowledge that this beautiful turn of geo-political events isn`t just a blip, something that will be reversed after Donald`s done his eight years. Oh no, the tide has turned irrevocably, decades of decency-loving freedoms trodden underfoot is over, we are now in a New World, one that has no time for wastrels of the left, trying to ruin the world and make us conform with their tosh.

Given the old edict `If you`re not a socialist at 18, you have no heart; if you`re still a socialist at 30, you have no brain`, it would seem somewhat remiss of me not to take this opportunity to remind all the lower-IQ types that every squeal of indignant moral outrage that anyone would stop believing their pc claptrap provides more fun and glee than any Comedy Club could ever do. And not only is it free, but it`s on 24 hours a day, for the rest of our lifetimes. YOU, dear lefties, have become no more than the gift that keeps on providing  us decent folk with the best show we`ve ever seen! Utterly priceless! So, be aware that with every utterance of tosh, with every post on here, with every BBC/CNN/Sky seethe, you add immeasurably and exponentially to the happiness of nations.

These are, indeed, sweet days.

YEE PHUCKING HAH!!!

That was more entertaining than any Oscar fck up..cheered me RIGHT UP timbuctooth,
(Dont bother coming on to patronise me Scanadahaven$hitface because i just laugh at you and you're luvvie mates)

We ALL laugh at them, twizzle, that is their new, and highly justified, role in our world. Nothing more than Court jesters, whose thoughts and self-importance have been scientifically and medically proven to cure the darkest depths of depression, so risible are they.

What is it about them, that they can`t even read a dictionary? If they could, they would know it`s no coincidence that the Romance Languages which so influenced English equates `left` with `sinister`.

Taken from; 
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/39092/how-did-sinister-the-latin-word-for-left-handed-get-its-current-meaning



`...Historically, the left side, and subsequently left-handedness, was considered negative in many cultures. The Latin word sinistra originally meant "left" but took on meanings of "evil" or "unlucky" by the Classical Latin era, and this double meaning survives in European derivatives of Latin, and in the English word "sinister".

    Meanings gradually developed from use of these terms in the ancient languages. In many modern European languages, including English, the word for the direction "right" also means "correct" or "proper", and also stands for authority and justice.

So, if you were left-handed or sinister, you were associated with evil. In time, sinister itself meant evil and threatening. EtymOnline said that sinister attained this meaning in the early 15th century. The OED supports this, writing that the first uses of sinister to mean malicious were:

    1474 Rolls of Parl. VI. 110/1 Contynuyn in habundaunce of goodes and havour, to their sinister pleasure.

    1477 Earl Rivers tr. Dictes or Sayengis Philosophhres (Caxton) (1877) lf. 7, Leste ye be let or withdrawen ther fro by eny sinistre or euil temptacion....`





So, by very definition; left equals evil, right equals good and proper. Fairly simple, you`d think...

I can see thorough research has been carried out here timbuc

Well, a few facts of life regarding the world and decent humanity itself, always help protect against the lifelong onslaught of their bullying bluster. Don`t want to be confounding the imbeciles, so we`ll put it in baser English; they don`t like it up`em!

One I forgot to include in the 'minority' list.
timbuctooth, with a first paragraph containing the most absolute, proven fallacious, made-up piffle it's possible to write in 2 lines, you are yet again confusing being PC with agreeing with left-wing political views. The 2 things are not connected, but don't let some fact get in the way of simple media indoctrination.
In amongst the self-righteous drivel is the typical "chip on the shoulder" crap, seemingly about how the dictators and fascists of the world have always been put down by those bullying workers!!!!
You do seem to feel bullied, poor thing.

As for lower IQ - I'm pretty sure I know which of us I'd choose in an intelligence test!

I've rarely, if ever, seen any moral outrage from any left-leaning posters here. Just the begging for some from people like you, desperate for the "seethe" you never actually see yet crave like some sort of fuel.

So this lifetime of oppression you waffle on about..... Under the leadership of Thatcher, Reagan, Bush, Cameron, Blair was it? Those heads of communist ideologies who have wrested your freedoms and liberty?

Among the complete nonsense and quite early in it is the fawning over "Nigel and Donald".
The 2 political geniuses who seem to give so much hope and joy to the 'rightist' minority and the reason for so much nastiness on here.

Just FYI, they being the egos they are, cream their jockeys just as much from the adulation of fools like you, as you do in your adulation of them.

Lap it up, it won't last, because - as you say, they don't like it up 'em, as it is now.

Studyform the British people do not trust the leftists and liberals any more, they do not trust them because they do not deserve to be trusted.

Now politicians such as Trump and Farage are trying to address some of the very real problems and dangers that we face.
Trump cannot do everything by himself, he will need the help of the American people and those like yourself are not helping.

now you claim you never see any moral outrage from left leaning posters...now I am sorry but it is such idiotic statements that might be the reason why leftists cannot be trusted.

I tell lies elsewhere, but  not like that, not here in front of myself

The tory/Donny fanboys on here seem to start all the threads on here and are incapable of any rational debate apart from calling people snowflakes or loonies or some other demented drivel, the amount of posts with fawning love for the likes of Trump and Farage is embarrassing to, then we have the childish outrage for the likes of the Scouse Scaffolder Torquemada and his sidekicks twizzle and Akabula or Bonnie Prince Charlie , the most laughable claim of these lunatics is their claim to patriots

would that be an example of "moral outrage" from anxious right there.
I don`t know, perhaps studyform does.

(Dont bother coming on to patronise me Scanadahaven$hitface because i just laugh at you and you're luvvie mates)Laugh


The forum stooge and class clown laughs at me, how will I ever recover from this

I have to disagree, lfc (btw, another name for the minority list)

The British people, like people all over the world, trust, like and do what they are guided towards by the press, TV and Media.
Which is why fashion exists, why awful records get to number 1, why coffee is now £3 a cup and why Labour is now "unelectable".
Most people just do and believe what they're told and they (we) are perpetually being told that Corbyn is useless.
Again, it's proven that he gets almost entirely negative press. Just stating facts not starting a Corbyn rally (before the indignant attempted ripostes begin).

No lfc, it isn't moral outrage imo, it's a response to earlier posts. I see no morality, nor outrage. Just the same standard irritation as always.

I have to disagree studyform

the British people do not do what they are told by the press
at some point they do what they think to be right for themselves and their country..that is why they are British

fashion exist yes, it exists because the British people are endelessly inventive and creative
and have even been able to create some of the most beautiful pop songs

I like Corbyn in many ways, so do many other British people but would not vote for him because ultimatedly I feel he and people like him would be prepared to destroy everything that we are lucky to have in this country, our very freedom

Fashion isn't all British. If people didn't do what they're told there would be no marketing or advertising success.
Thatcher and the Saatchis made that what it is today, btw.
Of course there are beautiful pop songs, but there are loads which gain huge undeserved success because people are told they're hip, like their friends, or in some other way righteous if they buy the rubbish ones too.

What makes you think British people are any different to any other people?

I know fashion isn`t all British, some of it is American.
They write the songs, and we write the songs.
that is how it is.
What makes British people different?, I don`t know maybe it`s a miracle.

I'm afraid most of OUR fashion is only copied from the states..I give you the teenage fad such as the Proms,Trick or treat and the proliferation of Coffee shops to name just three.Hardly any originality amongst our lot sadly...we used to have a Great Britain team..now we have TEAM GB

Studyform delivering a masterclass on this thread.

silly people worrying about the proms and truck or treat and the price of coffee.
They gave us the Beatles and the stones , punk rock and Pink Floyd Springsteen and the Velvet Underground
The Godfather 2  and Willie Nelsn singing you were always on my mind
And Roy Orbison...silly ungrateful people

Got it back.

Ahh, how refreshing a bit of balance on Chit Chat now