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we know they are hard working, that is why they have made such a success of Poland, and are only over here to pass the time
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anyone just watched fake britan on bbc,albanian,eastern europeans caught selling 1000,s of cscs,safety passports the tkts needed to get on construction,chemical,civil sites in the uk,tkts the uk worker has to pay to get on a course to get
they should do a programme on the fake boss,s,agents who think these easter europeans who no zilch about safety ,cant speak,write,or read english pass these courses legitamately,of course they no they dont but for £9 an hr who,s asking or cares |
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Agreed Slippy. Over here to work hard and earn. simple.
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Ovalman.
26 Feb 17 08:13 I can say the same Paddy. All are hard working and only here to try and better themselves. Their kids are a new generation of Brits that bring a lot to our culture and integrate very well. My only concern (coming from NI) is the most of these countries are Catholic nations and may sway an all Ireland vote. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Would that be such a bad thing?? Ok, as an outsider it would seem to me that the Republic is one of the more progressive and liberal economies / cultures in Europe. No offence, but certainly less tied to any doctrines than N.Ireland seems to be? How things have changed - as a relatively frequent (and impressed) visitor its one of the most "irreligious" countries I know. Economically - in the long term it would seem to me an all Ireland economic "unit" makes sense (its practically there anyway). Emotionally perhaps not an option for you, but on every other level would seem to make sense? |
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British Government won't give up N. Ireland, just like Gibraltar or Falkland Islands. Northern Ireland too strategic for security reasons to the western side of the British mainland.
Gibraltar is a stragetic enclave at the entrance into the Mediterranean Sea. Falklands are a strategic base to access expoloration in Antartica and give claim to waters in south Atlantic and well placed to monitor movement around Cape Horn. All irrelevant now with long range intercontinental ballistic missiles I hear you say. Maybe so but still won't be given up. |
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It's simple Ireland can't exist economically without England. The Irish Free State would have collapsed within ten years if it hadn't had the luxury of free access to live and work in England over the last 100years.
Now Scotland will try the same approach but they cannot expect to vote for independence and rely on keeping the rights and benefits of British citizens to live and work in the UK. |
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Wallflower and his fellow republicans and SNP voters will not be honest on this very issue .
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...... and the western hemisphere threats NI is buffering us against are exactly who? Besides 50-100 miles isn't going to make much difference to a real threat.
....its a spurious point. imo we effectively gave up long term control of NI when we agreed its up to them and if a majority there wished to be in the Republic then that's fine with us. |
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lfc, be quiet - answer to your upcoming question is YES, YES , YES. Go away
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It's only fine if they vote for independence, realising that that means if you are from N Ireland you will no longer have the automatic rights of British citizens to live and work in England .
There can be no vote unless that is made clear . |
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we effectively gave up long term control of NI when we agreed its up to them and if a majority there wished to be in the Republic then that's fine with us
Wouldn't the republic have a say on the matter? ![]() |
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No access to work and the national health service or universities or to live in any part of the UK, as they now do.
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NI is buffering us against are exactly who?
Pesky Russian nuclear missile carrying submarines going up and down the Irish Sea maybe ? ![]() NI also has large territorial water claims too. |
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And that should be on the ballet paper, we don't want them claiming they didn't understand what independence means.
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lfc - for the 55th time (at least), yes understood - put it on the ballot.
You are arguing with yourself on a point nobody gives a flying f*ck about . That's was at me for even engaging with your withering irrelevancies |
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Have you seen the recent polls on a united Ireland WF?
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So you agree wallflower that there can be no Scottish referendum unless this is made clear on the ballot , very good that is all I ask, honesty something republicans have not been able to manage on this issue..
Let's see, I don't know. |
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lfc,
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES and when you ask the same question every week between now and whenever YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ....I'm really struggling to be any clearer ![]() |
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If won't happen, you know that and I know that.
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akabula,
nope - don't confess to be an expert in NI politics but it would seem to me it will inevitably slide to pro-United Ireland. Could be wrong but as a student of history its always easy to be wise after the event - then point to momentum. It isn't going any other way as far as I can see - a poll in Feb 2017 isn't going to change long term trends and demographics |
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lfc, second referendum will happen (certainty) - don't think it will be successful
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no I didn't mean there won't be a second ref, I meant they will not put anything of that nature on the ballot, the SNP won't allow it because they want to keep that as muddled as possible. It will not be in the ballot and it will not be mentioned in any part of Scotland and England
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Do we know how difficult it is to build a country ? I don't know how it's possible.
take a look around the world . |
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WF you know that won't be part of any ballot paper.
Wee nicki and her cohorts will want the best of both worlds. Independence but with a hand held firmly by the UK. Without the same conditions as the ROI were given Scotland won't survive 3 years. |
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Indyref2 possess a conflict of interest if the same type of people are allowed to vote in it again.
Poles, East Europeans etc. were NOT allowed to vote to 'remain' in the last EU referendum back in 2016. So what makes you think that the same people would be allowed to vote for 'rejoin to e.u. or STOP Brexit' under the mandate of wee nicky's indyref2? Also, I reckon 16/17 won't get the chance to vote again either....making a 'YES' vote a near on impossability |