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labour have won copeland and stoke and its all corbyns fault
labour have won copeland and stoke and its all corbyns fault
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workers in Japan get a half day off today as part of a government initiative to reduce stress, what a beautuful country Japan is.
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Fascinating read that exchange between anxious and torquemeda, just goes to show why the Labour party is doomed.Snide,spite and malice all in the name of saving the working classes who probably have more to fear from the well intentioned Momentum group.
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Probably the wrongest thing I've read on any forum, ever.
Shows the media is doing its job. I lived in Liverpool for 5 years, there weren't many like you, Torquemada. (and I don't mean working). He often posts out and out rubbish, and declares he's speaking for the majority, lol. |
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LABOUR THE TRAITOR PARTY TO THE BRITISH PEOPLE IS FINNISH!
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Traitors more likely as Jeremy said that if you really love your country you wouldn't try to divide it like the Tories have done since the year dot.
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Anx, I can often sympathise with your values,who wouldn't want the poor to get more,who wouldn't want the rich to get their comeuppance now and again and who wouldn't want the workingclass to aspire for more ? I felt the same way when I was 21 years old but experience tells me it doesn't work out that way and I am probably right wing now as I believe a healthy economy offers the poorest and the working class more opportunity to improve their lot. When I, and those similar to me, get tarred with words like traitor to the working class it irritates me immensely and does more damage than the accusers realise,when I hear tories being accusd of being lowlife for holding a different opinion about how to improve our lives I fear those people far more than any tory government.
I benfited from a grammar school and nearly 33% of my class were from what might be called sink estates now,whatever the sentiments are I am adamant that grammars offer the working class more social mobility and opportunity than comprehensives which so many Labour ministers strangely avoid.We can disagree but once we hurl personal insults at each other it gets out of hand and the arguments are lost,the groups around Corbyn are killing Labour despite their supposed caring values. |
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Tree I have read on another thread on politics where you have a go at Tristham Hunt for being a greedy hypocrite and now your saying that Jeremy is killing the Labour Party, come on now what do you want would you prefer the Blairites back or would you prefer a Socialist to be the leader of a left wing party, as regards your coments about education I failed my 11 plus and I ended up at a comprehensive school which was far below the standards of the grammar schools , does a child of 11 deserve that kind of unjust system, yes I don't blame people buying education for their children because in this elitist win at all costs system money talks and is number one.
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The working class simply don't even get equality of opportunity that's where the system is wrong , in health , education and many other areas the low paid and the poor are simply forgotten and its getting worse no weasel words from Theresa May can change that.
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Traitors more likely as Jeremy said that if you really love your country you wouldn't try to divide it like the Tories have done since the year dot. Is this the same Jeremy who openly supports a terrorist group who tried to destroy the UK with a bombing campaign? |
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Aka tell me do you deny that successive British governments were speaking to the IRA since the 70s , I don't think Jeremy in any way supported terrorism he may have supported a United Ireland which is different
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Big difference between having talks and supporting which Jeremy certainly does.
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You believe what you want Aka but I don't think Jeremy supported the IRA I think like many others he tried to bring peace , Sinn Fein are a Socialist party so I think that was probably what attracted some Labour mps
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Jeremy and McDonnell both openly supported the ira.
#McDonnell lied about it on QT saying they made comments to help the peace process. If so why were they opposed to the GF agreement. Should never be near the Labour party yet alone in the positions they have. |
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I think it was the anglo- Irish agreement of 1985 that Jeremy disagreed with
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With regards Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell it's not merely a case of condemning a politician because one doesn't happen to like their social, economic or fiscal policies.
In McDonnell we're talking about a man who advocated the murder of British citizens, honouring those who actually committed such heinous acts of brutality, and somebody who counts IRA killers amongst his circle of friends. It is important to note that he does not deny these despicable truths about his past. A few grovelling apologies on television, however, are simply not good enough in this instance; the man is running for high office in a country whose people he once opined "only heeded to bullets and bombs." The very fact that this dangerous individual is permitted to be shadow chancellor brings shame to all of us, not just the Labour Party. Corbyn's historical alliances, although not quite as abhorrent as his chosen deputy, are also worthy of contempt; his links with Hezbollah, Hamas and the IRA all being widely known. If we had any sense neither man should be permitted within ten miles of the Houses of Parliament, much less prominent members of Her Majesty's opposition. Torquemada and Akabula's earlier appraisals on this thread were correct: Labour are evidently shambolic and no longer the party best representing British workers. I, unlike many right wingers, take no delight in this fact whatsoever. Our country desperately needs a trustworthy, credible and competent alternative to the incumbent government, an impossible scenario with the likes of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott at the helm. |
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Yes you want a party just like the tories .
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On the contrary, Anxious. Read my post again, sir, I desire "a trustworthy, credible and competent alternative to the incumbent government" not simply a copy. A Labour Party not led by terrorist sympathisers would be a good start.
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Tremendous post Poker..one of the best i have read on here for a long time.
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Corbyn's the only Labour guy left - the rest are career people. Pod people.
eventually their brainwaves will sync up and Corbyn will be one of them. one of them. one of them. one of them. |
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Excellent post PM. And typical response from Anxious in trying to spin your words into the exact opposite of what you wrote. Is it any wonder the likes of him and SH are so often ridiculed on here for spouting their delusional nonsense!
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The loony lefties like Anxious, Facts, SH and Studyform are literally blind to the truth and incapable of seeing past their own blinkered delusions. Pitiable really.
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Funny moment on that Gary Barlow thing tonight to find a new band, wife watched and asked her what she was laughing at.
peter Kay a guest judge told a band to look behind them if they wanted to be successful. They did and it was scaffolding as part of the scenery. Scaffolding is where the money's at he told them  Hope anxious watched |
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He would have accused Kay of being a Murdoch spiv by peddling the lie that scaffolders are well paid! According to Anxious we work for s pittance!
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His nurses, Studyform and Scandinavian Haven, would then come along to insult me before leading Anxious back to bed.
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Nurse! Nurse! Anxious is out of bed again.
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Excellent post PM. And typical response from Anxious in trying to spin your words into the exact opposite of what you wrote. Is it any wonder the likes of him and SH are so often ridiculed on here for spouting their delusional nonsense! Plain
Where and when did this riducule take take place please, I must of missed that You and your huge intimidating of chit chat pensioners, twizzledee and King akabula, keep it coming please, it's amusing to see you throwing so many wobblers, you'd almost think a chord hadn't been struck |
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army of chit chat pensioners
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Anxious, Studyform and Scandinavian Haven are the three geese in a flock. Anxious has flown east, Studyform has flown west, and you can guess where Scandinavian Haven has gone.
What a numpty. He even makes Breedingmad and Porcupine look relatively sane! |
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Anx,for the record I concur with your opinion about Tristram Hunt,quite disgraceful running away like that. That doesn't imply I wish the rest of the Labour party to be right wingers either,though. It would be nice for people who stand on a moral platform for public office to stop shooting themselves in the foot.
As regards education,i do not see any easy solution but I am sure that comprehensives have been a step backwards for social mobility and meritocracy for the working class,again the sentiment is good but in practice it seems to fail,just my opinion. |
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Scandi is clueless, although to be fair to him he does excel at reporting peep so be careful.
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akabula reports people all the time.
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It is wonderful how you are all being played by the media and the establishment. It is all about reinstalling the old steady two party system and to reintroduce the right wing of the labour party.
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Not really natb.
I want a Labour party that appeals to the voter and takes back the votes it lost to the SNP. Loads of peep won't vote for them whilst Corbyn is leader and O'Donnell and Abbott hold senior posts. As it stands in the UK are you happy with only the one party being electable? |