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It's a big thing to lie about if thats what he's done !
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/10/ukip-leader-paul-nuttall-denies-lying-about-being-at-hillsborough-disaster
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/10/ukip-leader-paul-nuttall-denies-lying-about-being-at-hillsborough-disaster
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In response to the questions, Ukip issued a statement that said Nuttall was the victim of a smear campaign sanctioned by senior members of the Labour party.
Any claim that he was not at Hillsborough was “totally false and highly defamatory”, the statement said, adding: “Paul was indeed at Hillsborough. He attended the match with his father and other family members. For political opponents to suggest otherwise and for left-wing media organisations to promote such claims constitutes a new low for the Labour party and its associates.”
Ukip produced two statements. The statement from Nuttall’s father begins: “I am and always have been the father of Paul Nuttall, leader of the UK Independence party.” It goes on to state that Nuttall had been 13 years old at the time of the disaster. He was in fact 12.
The second statement is said to be from a Ukip official at the European parliament. This said that the two men had been friends for 35 years and were both at Hillsborough.
Any claim that he was not at Hillsborough was “totally false and highly defamatory”, the statement said, adding: “Paul was indeed at Hillsborough. He attended the match with his father and other family members. For political opponents to suggest otherwise and for left-wing media organisations to promote such claims constitutes a new low for the Labour party and its associates.”
Ukip produced two statements. The statement from Nuttall’s father begins: “I am and always have been the father of Paul Nuttall, leader of the UK Independence party.” It goes on to state that Nuttall had been 13 years old at the time of the disaster. He was in fact 12.
The second statement is said to be from a Ukip official at the European parliament. This said that the two men had been friends for 35 years and were both at Hillsborough.
“I am and always have been the father of Paul Nuttall,
It is fake news put out by the Guardian to link subconsciously that Nuttall is a liar.
There is no way to know the truth so it is not a story - just a he said / she said argument.
Reporting it as a story is really poor 'journalism' - especially from a newspaper that is so big about fake news.
There is no way to know the truth so it is not a story - just a he said / she said argument.
Reporting it as a story is really poor 'journalism' - especially from a newspaper that is so big about fake news.
Farage sucking up to Trump has put me right off the Nutter Party !
does he have a phd as he claimed
did he play for tranmere as he claimed
where was he living when he filled in his stoke election papers
strange guy
what has he done for hillsboro campaigners ?
did he play for tranmere as he claimed
where was he living when he filled in his stoke election papers
strange guy
what has he done for hillsboro campaigners ?
Nuttall lied about his address pre-by-election.......that's a NO !!!!!!.....then
Feb 12, 2017 -- 8:05PM, donny osmond wrote:
does he have a phd as he claimeddid he play for tranmere as he claimedwhere was he living when he filled in his stoke election papersstrange guywhat has he done for hillsboro campaigners ?
But you need to look past the headlines.
The PHD claim was on a Linkin page that he claims no knowledge of. So did he set it up? If so, why mention something there, and ONLY there? Maybe somebody else set it up? Who knows.
The Tranmere issue was an honest mistake, so he says, by a Press Officer on 2 documents in 2010. He did spend 5 years at Tranmere as a junior/youth player.
The Hillsborough issue: my best friend was at Hillsborough. The ONLY thing he has told me in 25 years was in the week after, and it was that he was standing on top of somebody and knew the guy was dying but he knew if he were to bend down, he was gone too. He has never told me anything since, ever.
you missed one ! his address at time of filling in papers
walter mitty springs to mind, why would somebody creat a linkin
page for him ?
walter mitty springs to mind, why would somebody creat a linkin
page for him ?
So they coould use it to 'show' what a liar he is. Come on, man, wise up.
And the address in the papers was the address he had lined up to move in to. Hardly a hanging offence (although many are trying to make it so).
so not his current address as required
come on man, wise up
come on man, wise up
The Stoke Central by election is the most important for years.
Created in 1950', it has always been Labour, often with a 10-20k majority.
As the opposition , especially during such a volatile political time , it would be a disaster for Labour if they lost.
Even a close run thing would be embarrassing .
Expect plenty of dirty tricks from all sides.
Created in 1950', it has always been Labour, often with a 10-20k majority.
As the opposition , especially during such a volatile political time , it would be a disaster for Labour if they lost.
Even a close run thing would be embarrassing .
Expect plenty of dirty tricks from all sides.
so not his current address as required
The contract was signed on the address he put down. A transitional period has to be taken into consideration.
The luvvies clutching at straws again.
The contract was signed on the address he put down. A transitional period has to be taken into consideration.
The luvvies clutching at straws again.
Paul Nuttall is working class.
Paul Nuttall didnt use his attendance at Hillsborough to his own advantage.
Neither did he or his family sue.
A lot to like about this working class hero.
Paul Nuttall didnt use his attendance at Hillsborough to his own advantage.
Neither did he or his family sue.
A lot to like about this working class hero.
I knew very little about this story, but what struck me as odd on reading this thread and other media stuff, it that there seems to be no record of this chap coming forward with direct participant evidence in response to any of the requests for this.
Being mercenary, one would have thought that he would have been early in the "evidence" queue at the point at which it was obvious that 1. the fans were not at fault, and 2. He may have a career in politics that might "profit" from his experience. Call me old fashioned but this seems an opportunity missed or perhaps unavailable
This one will run and run imo.
Being mercenary, one would have thought that he would have been early in the "evidence" queue at the point at which it was obvious that 1. the fans were not at fault, and 2. He may have a career in politics that might "profit" from his experience. Call me old fashioned but this seems an opportunity missed or perhaps unavailable
This one will run and run imo.
Its to his eternal credit that he didnt try to make capital,out of it.
He was only 12 at the time and may have been affected by the whole thing.
If Facts was there he would be suing for trauma.
Nuttall is a patriot,Facts hates his own country.
Nuttall will be an advocate for the working class in a Bob Crow way,Facts is an advocate for the globalists,the Islington set.
He was only 12 at the time and may have been affected by the whole thing.
If Facts was there he would be suing for trauma.
Nuttall is a patriot,Facts hates his own country.
Nuttall will be an advocate for the working class in a Bob Crow way,Facts is an advocate for the globalists,the Islington set.
Maybe he wants to deal with it in his own way...
But then again some people want him strapped up to a Jeremy Kyle style lie detector in front of a live studio audience.
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You can't please all of the people all of the time.
But then again some people want him strapped up to a Jeremy Kyle style lie detector in front of a live studio audience.
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You can't please all of the people all of the time.
he was there the year before too, and recognised the obvious danger as
an 11 year old. strange therefore he would return the following year.
an 11 year old. strange therefore he would return the following year.
..... and wait 25 years before giving his wisdom on the issue
Other Nuttall dodginess :
Staffordshire police have said they are investigating an allegation of election fraud after Nuttall’s nomination papers for the Stoke Central byelection gave an address in the city at which he subsequently admitted he was not living. Knowingly providing false information on a nomination paper is an offence punishable by up to 51 weeks’ imprisonment. Ukip said all rules had been complied with.
Nuttall’s personal website has carried the claim that he had once been a professional footballer with Tranmere Rovers. After Rovers stated that he had been a member of its youth side, but never a professional, Nuttall blamed his website’s statement on a Ukip press officer.
Until late last year, Nuttall’s profile page on the LinkedIn social networking site implied that he had a PhD. He did not complete his doctoral studies, however. Challenged about this, Nuttall insisted that the LinkedIn page “wasn’t put up by us, and we don’t know where it’s come from”. The page was subsequently edited to remove any reference to a PhD.
In 2015, while Ukip’s education spokesperson, Nuttall appeared in a photograph that was found to have been digitally altered to give the impression that he was standing in a library. Nuttall responded by joking that he had two copies of each of his books.
He is currently among six Ukip members of the European parliament who are under investigation for alleged misuse of funds. If they are found to have broken the rules, they will be expected to pay the money, which totals about £500,000.
Ukip rejects the allegations, saying it has “scrupulously applied” the rules of the European parliament.
Staffordshire police have said they are investigating an allegation of election fraud after Nuttall’s nomination papers for the Stoke Central byelection gave an address in the city at which he subsequently admitted he was not living. Knowingly providing false information on a nomination paper is an offence punishable by up to 51 weeks’ imprisonment. Ukip said all rules had been complied with.
Nuttall’s personal website has carried the claim that he had once been a professional footballer with Tranmere Rovers. After Rovers stated that he had been a member of its youth side, but never a professional, Nuttall blamed his website’s statement on a Ukip press officer.
Until late last year, Nuttall’s profile page on the LinkedIn social networking site implied that he had a PhD. He did not complete his doctoral studies, however. Challenged about this, Nuttall insisted that the LinkedIn page “wasn’t put up by us, and we don’t know where it’s come from”. The page was subsequently edited to remove any reference to a PhD.
In 2015, while Ukip’s education spokesperson, Nuttall appeared in a photograph that was found to have been digitally altered to give the impression that he was standing in a library. Nuttall responded by joking that he had two copies of each of his books.
He is currently among six Ukip members of the European parliament who are under investigation for alleged misuse of funds. If they are found to have broken the rules, they will be expected to pay the money, which totals about £500,000.
Ukip rejects the allegations, saying it has “scrupulously applied” the rules of the European parliament.
Guardian article :
Nuttall was 12 at the time of the disaster, and was a pupil at Savio high school in Bootle, Liverpool. One of his former teachers, a Roman Catholic priest, has told the Guardian that the school believed it had been aware of the identities of every boy who had been at Hillsborough in order to help them through a difficult period, and that Nuttall was not among them.
A fellow pupil at the school who says he has been a friend of Nuttall for decades said the Ukip leader had never mentioned being there. “I have been very good friends with Paul for over 25 years,” he said, adding that during that time they had “never spoken” about Hillsborough.
While the teacher and friend expressed surprise that Nuttall has said he was at Hillsborough, their comments do not prove that he was not present.
Joe Benton, who was Labour MP for Bootle for 25 years, said that to the best of his knowledge Nuttall had not mentioned Hillsborough when he stood against him as Ukip’s candidate in the 2005 and 2010 general elections.
Nuttall had not mentioned being present at Hillsborough during any public meeting they had both attended, nor in his campaign literature, Benton said, despite the strength of feeling within the constituency about the police negligence that led to the deaths and the subsequent official cover-up that led to Liverpool fans being blamed for the disaster.
The current Labour MP for Bootle, Peter Dowd, said that as far as he was aware, Nuttall had not mentioned Hillsborough when he contested Bootle for Ukip in the 2015 general election.
The mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, said: “If Nuttall was [at Hillsborough] then it is extremely disappointing that during many years of pain and anguish for the families, he never once used his position nationally and internationally to stand up for people from his own community and join the fight for justice.”
Margaret Aspinall, chair of the Hillsborough Families Support Group, said she was surprised that Nuttall had never offered to assist with their decades-long campaign to overturn the cover-up that led to Liverpool football fans being blamed for the 96 deaths.
“I haven’t heard anything about him being at the match,” she said. “Has he given a statement to the police, who have said they want to hear from everyone who was there? He can’t say he hasn’t heard that the police want to take statements from everyone who was in the Leppings Lane, as it’s been all over local and national media.”
Nuttall declined to explain why he had not offered his support to the group. He also declined to say whether he had given a statement to the police who are currently investigating events on the day of the disaster.
He further declined to offer any comment about the way in which a former teacher and old school friend said he had never mentioned being at Hillsborough, nor about the way in which he appears not to have mentioned being present at the disaster while fighting three general elections in a Liverpool constituency.
Nuttall was 12 at the time of the disaster, and was a pupil at Savio high school in Bootle, Liverpool. One of his former teachers, a Roman Catholic priest, has told the Guardian that the school believed it had been aware of the identities of every boy who had been at Hillsborough in order to help them through a difficult period, and that Nuttall was not among them.
A fellow pupil at the school who says he has been a friend of Nuttall for decades said the Ukip leader had never mentioned being there. “I have been very good friends with Paul for over 25 years,” he said, adding that during that time they had “never spoken” about Hillsborough.
While the teacher and friend expressed surprise that Nuttall has said he was at Hillsborough, their comments do not prove that he was not present.
Joe Benton, who was Labour MP for Bootle for 25 years, said that to the best of his knowledge Nuttall had not mentioned Hillsborough when he stood against him as Ukip’s candidate in the 2005 and 2010 general elections.
Nuttall had not mentioned being present at Hillsborough during any public meeting they had both attended, nor in his campaign literature, Benton said, despite the strength of feeling within the constituency about the police negligence that led to the deaths and the subsequent official cover-up that led to Liverpool fans being blamed for the disaster.
The current Labour MP for Bootle, Peter Dowd, said that as far as he was aware, Nuttall had not mentioned Hillsborough when he contested Bootle for Ukip in the 2015 general election.
The mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, said: “If Nuttall was [at Hillsborough] then it is extremely disappointing that during many years of pain and anguish for the families, he never once used his position nationally and internationally to stand up for people from his own community and join the fight for justice.”
Margaret Aspinall, chair of the Hillsborough Families Support Group, said she was surprised that Nuttall had never offered to assist with their decades-long campaign to overturn the cover-up that led to Liverpool football fans being blamed for the 96 deaths.
“I haven’t heard anything about him being at the match,” she said. “Has he given a statement to the police, who have said they want to hear from everyone who was there? He can’t say he hasn’t heard that the police want to take statements from everyone who was in the Leppings Lane, as it’s been all over local and national media.”
Nuttall declined to explain why he had not offered his support to the group. He also declined to say whether he had given a statement to the police who are currently investigating events on the day of the disaster.
He further declined to offer any comment about the way in which a former teacher and old school friend said he had never mentioned being at Hillsborough, nor about the way in which he appears not to have mentioned being present at the disaster while fighting three general elections in a Liverpool constituency.
Its called dignity.
This man didnt want to benefit from others suffering,didnt want to exploit things for his own ends.
Its refreshing to see someone behave unselfishly.
Its refreshing to see someone act in an old fashioned English way.
This man didnt want to benefit from others suffering,didnt want to exploit things for his own ends.
Its refreshing to see someone behave unselfishly.
Its refreshing to see someone act in an old fashioned English way.
Its a real shame about the name "Nuttall" and the fact he's a dead ringer for Ade Edmondson because in this shallow land in which we live these two factors will contribute in him NOT winning the Stoke by election however much i wish it ain't so.
I don't know but I would bet on him being the next Stoke MP.
Any takers, Leppie?
Those Stoke Labour boys are going to take one hell of a beating on 23 Feb, one hell of a beating
Shame
Any takers, Leppie?
Those Stoke Labour boys are going to take one hell of a beating on 23 Feb, one hell of a beating
Shame
Just checked ......(the market thinks differently)
Labour 1.91
UkIP 2.12
They should have gone for Stephen Wolf as the leader, he actually seemed same.
Labour 1.91
UkIP 2.12
They should have gone for Stephen Wolf as the leader, he actually seemed same.
Yeah i agree...shame Diane James slugged him in Strasbourg
Leppie ...
It's sane FFS, not same.
Check before you post (unless you think the correct word is same).
PS I think Lab will get hammered. Who's gonna vote for them? I suppose that Jezzer now being a big Brexit fan will help, but counting against him is sh@gging big Diane... The good folk of Stoke don't like that sort of thing, not in the Potteries.
It's sane FFS, not same.
Check before you post (unless you think the correct word is same).
PS I think Lab will get hammered. Who's gonna vote for them? I suppose that Jezzer now being a big Brexit fan will help, but counting against him is sh@gging big Diane... The good folk of Stoke don't like that sort of thing, not in the Potteries.
I blame any errors on my dictation software, I said sane and it comes up with same, I may not be bothered to change the errors, as it is too tedious
If you go down to the woods today you're being in for a big surprise the teddy bears are having a picnic: janetscales yummy that should've read the jam and scones, There I enunciated more carefully, I will have to enunciate more precisely colour collar, three attempts at eight, at three, at a word, put yourself together dictation software!
Leppie,
you can't score an own goal and then award it to yourself.
Old leftie trick, to pretend to give something away and then furtively take it back.
Labour govts were always at it. Not any more though No more Lab govts
you can't score an own goal and then award it to yourself.
Old leftie trick, to pretend to give something away and then furtively take it back.
Labour govts were always at it. Not any more though
No more Lab govts
BTW Leppie,
do you sit there talking to your computer?
do you sit there talking to your computer?
his press officer has offered to resign over info given on website, she can only add what been told to add cant she ? or did she make content up ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38976044
also mentions he didnt check press releases !!!!
not very thorough for a party leader.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38976044
also mentions he didnt check press releases !!!!
not very thorough for a party leader.
he was on a few hills at some borough
not tech a lie
not tech a lie
Feb 13, 2017 -- 12:40PM, mememe wrote:
BTW Leppie,do you sit there talking to your computer?
Yes and it prints it out like this...... I can say anything, and it can understand me
Mary had a little lamb its fleece was white as snow everywhere that Mary went the little lamb was sure to go…… Lala Lala
I think if he doesn't win this he'll go back to earning millions from his hazelnut and chocolate spread business he set up as an Italian schoolboy.
No....... that was his brighter younger brother...... Mussolini Nuttall
his grandfather mr nuttall-minto had a thriving buisness he could explore
....... Antarctica .........that seems far enough away 
paul was at the south pole to greet amundsen's arrival in 1911
it is not recorded if he was close friends with any of scotts expedition
I'm assuming he was at Hillsborough.
I'm also assuming his reticence to speak about it is akin to Andy Murray and Dunblane.
If it turns out he wasn't at Hillsborough he should resign from politics in disgrace,that would be the ultimate betrayal.
I'm also assuming his reticence to speak about it is akin to Andy Murray and Dunblane.
If it turns out he wasn't at Hillsborough he should resign from politics in disgrace,that would be the ultimate betrayal.
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