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Anxious,I'm against mass immigration.
I'm against it because it suppresses wages and affects the working class. I'm against immigrants that won't work. The political elites and the wealthy and business class have joined forces with the Islington set in swamping your country with hostile immigrants. The wealthy want the cheap labour,the nannies,the maids. The Labour and Lib/Dems want the votes. The Islington set want to virtue signal. The people paying the price are the working class. Its their houses that are getting taken Its their jobs getting snaffled. Its their hospital beds getting occupied. Its their kids school places getting taken. There is also the danger of terrorism in these waves of migration and the rewarding of traffickers. |
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^ Agree with most of that.
We need a stop to immigration......why should we take even high skilled people from other countries when they are surely needed in those countries to build their own ecomomies. |
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One of the most beneficial examples of mass immigration (apart from obvious examples like the Jewish diaspora and the Huguenots) was the influx of young Irish people, a generation ago. It would be hard to put a number on that wave of immigration, it coincided with the Poll Tax, but London was suffused with new Irish blood. Most were better educated and qualified than the resident population and it is no surprise that they have flourished and now form an important part of the so-called "metropolitan elite."
It is unclear whether wildman would like to prevent Irish immigration. Perhaps just Catholics. I think we should be told. |
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I agree partly with what you say Wild West but you its an easy exscuse to say that immigration is the the major problem the main problem is a Government obsessed with the free market and still trying to implement s failed trickle down approach , after all the Thatcherite dream of a property owning democracy is now dead .
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Why should we take all their best people.
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We take nurses because the the gov wanted to save 30k per head in training our own. Short term saving, long term problem.
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The Leopard - I hadn't considered Protectionism as a help to countries that people want to leave. Hearts of gold, eh.
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You should consider it.
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They only wanted to lead to get away from their parents
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*Leave
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The Leopard - there were a fair few escaping a hasty marriage. Not sure how it is in Ireland re divorce now, but it was verboten there then.
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Yes, escaping the totalitarianism of the Catholic Church.
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They saw how they operated when they were beaten regularly by the (so-called) Christian Brothers
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Irish immigration is different.
Its a recent development as we were in a political union for years. Internal migration is not immigration. Having said that any one who is a guest of your country should obey its laws,the penalties should be severer for immigrants and deportation should be in play for any offence. I was an immigrant,I was thankful of the opportunity presented to me,I broke no laws and collected no welfare and finally I went home. The problem immigrants break laws,collect welfare and never go home. |
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we were a political union with india for many years too, as like with
ireland we invaded |
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Dear oh dear.
You weren't in a political union with India,you ruled India. The Acts of Union of 1800 formed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland,it was passed in both parliaments. |
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What about Irish immigration to America in the Nineteenth century, Wildman?
I can see the upside for the emigrants, escaping famine; and for the welcoming country, America benefitted and continues to benefit enormously from Irish roots. Why would you try stop it, Wildman? |
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America was becoming a country, no established country wants or needs immigration
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Uh huh,
What year did the USA become a country, LFC? |
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I don't know
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well it's always been there.
Bit like the question ... "what was the world's biggest island before Australia was discovered?" |
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thanks for clearing that up mememe : )
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council tax going up 5% and social care cant keep pace,eveb in leavy surrey,but bring,m all in ,WTF
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WE,LL discuss lack of housing,lack of school places,nhs going under next week,WTF,BRING,M ALL IN
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They refuse to see the madness of it 1TP
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There was no welfare in America,if you made it fair enough if you didnt you went home.
You can't have open borders and a welfare state. |
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what has irish immigration years ago got to do with an invasion of your country by an alien culture?
typical misleading and directing attention away from the main issue |
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EU migrants cannot claim benefits for four years anyway. Of The overall benefits caseload, only 2.5% is paid to EU migrants.Once they are gone, and replaced by our own unemployable class (good luck with that) and the working class are worse off with no scapegoats to blame, there is bound to be a lot of disappointment and anger.
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Not to mention the strain on services when our expats are returned from the Costa Braga. We're swapping good workers for geriatric cases.
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Wild West that's why the after the war Socialism built the NHS and the Social Security System which prevented my country from ever becoming like America , there was a post war consensus on this until Thatcher destroyed it.
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I agree partly with what you say Wild West but you its an easy exscuse to say that immigration is the the major problem the main problem is a Government obsessed with the free market and still trying to implement s failed trickle down approach , after all the Thatcherite dream of a property owning democracy is now dead .
And the Governments opposition being the Labour Party sees no problem with current UK immigration figures. If the Labour Party was not so tribal then it would admit that over supply of labour is a negative to native workers. Yes capitalisms bust has caused the injury, but an oversupply of labour from the EU has ben the insult to that injury. |
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Im not denying that Zen Jeremy is wrong in his approach to this issue but like I said its not the only thing to be concerned with, the tories are guilty of other crimes which have made things worse do you agree ?
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Tory positives for the working class - The Tories have increased tax allowance, the national living wage, increased free childcare to 30 hours for 3 and 4 year olds.
Tory negatives for the working - Councils have received less funding which hits the poorer in society and other subsidies have been scrapped including the spare bedroom subsidy etc. The Tories are not all bad anxious. |
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The National living wage ? whilst their friends pocket millions they have increased the minimum for the workers
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They have stood by whilst the rip off energy private cowboys have robbed the people blind with massive increases in their carved up cartel
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They have moved closer to the destruction of the NHS by making it easier for the private cowboys to plunge into the NHS
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Wake up Zen and realise these people are the true enemy
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And are we forgetting the Labour Party signing all those PFI contracts anxious?
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They were wrong that's for sure
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