Remainers Obliterated

clive lewis resiging must be like a captain getting sent off at wembley in the 90th min for dissent whilst winning 10 nil,wtf,s that all about,me,me,me

Facts, Breeding idiot etc...all in tears!

Not even headline news on the BBC...had the vote gone the other way no doubt.. the footy would have been interrupted to break the story..more seething in Salford tonight

I'm pro-Brexit for personal / political reasons (not that I think its a good thing overall, but not bothered either way)- but I'm very afraid this battle has even started - wouldn't get too confident about "hard" Brexit if I was you

*hasn't*

A fair few numpties will Soon be laughing on the other side of their faces

Feb 9, 2017 -- 1:33AM, crags wrote:

A fair few numpties will Soon be laughing on the other side of their faces

The whole country in fact.

More divided as a nation than any time in our history. Democracy and capitalism not working for vast swathes. Entrnchment....extremism....instant clamour on every news item and now, fake news item.

We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way

rtb ...

We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way

count me out on that one.

Don't want any fookin remoaning libtards living near me!!  Fook off to France.

A lot is to do with this Globalisation and computers
skynet on the way,but we will wake up to late

Feb 9, 2017 -- 8:52AM, mememe wrote:

rtb ...We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way count me out on that one.Don't want any fookin remoaning libtards living near me!!  Fook off to France.

I ended up getting into some really heated and nasty arguments with life-long friends over the Referendum

Took a step back eventually and realised these people had seen me at my best and worst, some since I was at Primary School. They picked me up when I was down but, crucially, were never the ones to put me there in the first place.

.....and I was going to throw all that away for the outcome of a Referendum?

Well fk me then!

rtb,
stayed up until 4:30 am on the night of the referendum to see it through.

Golf next morning at 9am.  Golf chum of some years was complaining (he was a Remainer, and knew I was Brexit) that people who voted Brexit were thick and racist.

He knows I'm neither but he still ranted.

If it had gone the other way I would just have been disappointed but accepted the democratic vote.

Remainers (it seems) have behaved deplorably.

Agree - I've even had some Remain-friends say, with an absolute straight face that I should 'Allow them to grieve the loss of an ideal', which really betrayed depths of utter wimpiness I'd never detected.

I'd have probably done the same as you too had the result gone the other way, but there is culpability on both sides. Like it or not (and I loathe it), the result has given racist carte-blanche they feel to air their poisonous views in newsgroups and in the wider world. A Brexit, when it comes, must never pander to these people or their ideas - this is Britain, proud of our traditions and culture, but always facing outward to the rest of the world.

Soapbox moment over!

besides sitting in a bar in magaluf supping san miguel [ which will carry on ] ive yet to hear anyone explain what been a european means,just another luvie soundbite imo

....does mean any more than being British means - a citizen of a political union that has shared cultural values and ideals. You can accept or reject either or both of the above

*doesn't mean*

Scots, English, Welsh - can't really choose not to be one of the above - just are. They can choose to be one or both British or European if they feel they identify with the political and cultural values

Northern Irish - have 3 choices   -  Irish, British, European or any combination!

Irish (republic) - chose not to be British, but most identify as being European

As far as the divide between Remainers / Brexiteers - it is quite serious and nasty at times - basically a 17 people to 16 people split, chances are 50% of your friends / family and colleagues are on the opposite side.

When we finish negotiating with ourselves (not much of a negotiation mind you) and we have to negotiate with the EU who in some aspects will be telling us how it will be - compromises will be made. This could in fact be a good thing and make the whole process more palatable to 48% of the population - so tough EU negotiations may assist in healing the divide in the UK.

As far as the divide between Remainers / Brexiteers - it is quite serious and nasty at times - basically a 17 people to 16 people split, chances are 50% of your friends / family and colleagues are on the opposite side

“If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.”
- E.M. Forster

It was near enough a 50/50 split. But many who voted to leave are now beginning to realize the implications of their ill though out actions. I'd say it's more 70/30 now.

In favour of remaining of course.

This poll says otherwise:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/cnn-brexit-poll/

Brexit poll: Six months on, Brits stand by EU referendum decision
By Richard Allen Greene, CNN
Updated 2035 GMT (0435 HKT) December 19, 2016

London (CNN)British voters would repeat their decision to leave the European Union if the "Brexit" referendum were held today, according to a new CNN/ComRes poll released Monday.

Six months after the UK delivered a result that shocked much of the world, 47% of British adults say they would vote Leave, with 45% saying they would choose to Remain, even though nearly half of them expect the decision to hurt them financially.
The remaining 8% of respondents said they didn't know how they would vote.
On June 23, the public voted to leave the European Union by a margin of 52% to 48%, with the Leave side getting more than a million more votes than Remain.
The CNN/ComRes poll suggests that, despite a slide in the value of the pound and accusations that the British government has failed to set out a clear plan for Brexit, Britons have not changed their mind since they delivered arguably the first sign of the populist wave that Donald Trump rode to victory in the US presidential election in November.

"The British public have spoken and it was to leave the EU," said ComRes chairman Andrew Hawkins.
"This poll should serve as a warning to Remain campaigners who want to force a second referendum that the clock cannot be turned back without risking a huge public backlash. Most of the public think the June result should stand and even some 17% of those who believe their personal finances will worsen post-Brexit would still vote to Leave," he said.
The poll results suggest that the British voted with their hearts, not their wallets: Only a quarter of them (24%) said they thought they would be personally better off financially as a result of Brexit.
Nearly half (44%), by contrast, said they personally expected to be worse off financially because of Brexit. The other third (32%) of respondents said they didn't know.

But perhaps surprisingly, nearly half (47%) of the public said they expected the country's long-term economic prospects to be better outside the European bloc.
Just over one in three (36%) said they expected the country to be worse off, while the remaining 16% didn't know.
Populism: What next after Trump and Brexit?

Populism: What next after Trump and Brexit? 02:30
More than half (55%) of people who responded to the CNN/ComRes poll said they expected immigration to decrease when the country leaves the EU -- a perennial political issue in the United Kingdom.
One in three people (32%) said they did not expect Brexit to affect immigration, and 13% said they did not know.

Excellent response Gin

do not trust the remainers, it better to torment them, its good for them.
but don`t trust them, because they don`t deserve to be trusted.

it is no more a question of having to live together than it was before brexit
so they should pipe down.

they are the ones who are going to have to adjust to the new reality.

if they are not capable of change, too bad.
life is a hard taskmaster.

Gin, there will always be a lot of pretendy people who don't want to lose face.

the remainers are hanging on by their fingertips, very undignified.
what must the rest of the world think of them ?

If you want to listen to two remainers spitting bile and acting generally like spoilt children tune into James o'Brien @ 9AM(mon-fri) and Nick Abbot@ 10PM(weekends)on LBC...the pair of them just simply CANNOT accept the referendum result

no one admires that, there is nothing so repulsive as needyness

crags...is that all you've got

the rest of the world must look on in amazement at the remainers, they never suspected the
British could be so servile.

would be a much wider margin in favour of leave in a 2nd vote. loads of reluctant remainers who would switch sides now that sky hasn't fallen in since last june

had the brexiteers lost there would have been a shrug of the shoulders and that would have been the end of it.

Feb 9, 2017 -- 3:30PM, lfc1971 wrote:

had the brexiteers lost there would have been a shrug of the shoulders and that would have been the end of it.

That's because they are a bunch of losers, so are well used to it, maybe?

o'Brien this morning was bleating on about how right wing our press are forgetting to mention the entire broadcasting organisations are totally left wing.I tried to get on his show but the only callers being allowed on were remainers...not one disagreed with his lefty views.

I think you will find that we won and you lost crags so DO try and accept the result

everyone`s a loser, that`s a very curious thing to say.
it tells us something about the remainers, don`t worry no one respects people
with that sort of attitude

Utter bulsh1t, lfc  -  Farage vowed to "fight on" when he practically conceded the referendum result. Leave campaign started petition to have second referendum if less than 70% voted or result was with 10% or something like that.

I don't have an issue with this, they are perfectly entitled to do so.

I just have an issue with your incorrect post

I'm not sure which of the 7 stages the leavers are at. They seem stuck between denial and anger at present. They'll hit acceptance at some point down the line.

Remainers ffs

of course Farage would be entitled to fight on
and those who favour joining the EU  are entitled to put forward a political campaign in the following years
once we have left alsO

Try and keep up wallflower

... thank you lfc, I'll take that as a correction.

you`re welcome

Remainers sound like a little brats who say I'm going to take my ball and go home ...i wish they ****in would!

Leavers are generally considered to be the "left behind" half of the electorate; a little slower, a little more gullible than Remainers.
The split has certainly polarised the country, like many others I now simply define people by where they stand on the issue. It is a shame really, if the whole country is heading for the sort of divide that hobbles Northern Ireland.

UB
Leavers are generally considered to be the "left behind" half of the electorate; a little slower, a little more gullible than Remainers.

Patronising tw@t.

I'm not slow or gullible and don't feel left behind.  Where do you get such drivel from?  Did you just make it up?  I've not seen any stats to support your point.

BTW I never believed that we'd be having to have an emergency budget etc etc.  Did you?  And you call Brexiteers gullible

Here we go again..the idiots like UB taking the moral high ground...UB and his like  suffering from an inferiority complex.. bit pitifull really...sad little people with sad little lives

Theresa May has interpreted the vote as an inarticulate protest by the "left behind" half of the electorate.
You may not have had an emergency budget, mememe, but you have certainly taken a "haircut" by way of the devalued currency. Like I say, Leavers are slow on the uptake, but they are poorer because of Brexit.

Funny most of the insults traded on here seem to be by brexiteers.

They are naturally the angrier half of the country, fife, and
when they come to find that Brexit has not improved their fortunes, they will be angrier still.

All the anger is coming from the remainers ub, who also seem to number a lot of naturally patronising types. They simply believe they are better than other people, it's like the 30s all over.

Not on here saddo most of the abuse and insults are certainly not from the remainers.

We must agree to disagree on that point, fife.

A lot of Brexiteers can't articulate themselves very well, so they resort to insults.

saddo - Something you need to take up with the May Government, who have mandated the vote to the - how did she put it? - people not sharing the wealth, those just managing etc etc. If you're worried about being patronised, take it up with her.

I think it is fair to say that Brexit is a vote for intolerance. Who would deny that?

Those who preach tolerance have appeared to be the most intolerant of people when something goes against them, ub.

we had 40 years of seething from the brexiteers, just 2 more to go.

get in !

oh hang on a minute , migrants not going home

we could be on for another 40 years, and the rest

ffs

biscuitbrain 09 Feb 17 18:44 

I think it is fair to say that Brexit is a vote for intolerance.

he means independence. that is what the mighty, noble, confident and forward thinging brexiteers voted for.

as for intolerant - well we have a seething group of people who lost a vote and then demanded another. their seethe continued when they were told that won't be happening. then we have the same people hurling insults all over social media - we just laughed at them. then a chief remainer who in the past has been accused of racism tells the brexit minister to fook off as he offers her a friendly kiss. shes a professional seether. the brexit minister walks away laughing. the remain type in the USA are on the streets because they also lost an election. the rest just look at their seething with bemusement knowing it will change nothing.

over there and over here we have tried to explain how democracy works but they don't understand and/or accept and carry on seething. we try again to explain the concept of democracy in the simplest possible terms - as if we were speaking to a child, but still they just want to seethe and protest. so we must humour them and let them continue with their seething and their marches as we shape the future destiny of our newly independent great nation.

they will thank us in time but for now we must just put up with them stamping their feet, crying and yelling fook off to people. as these types have now for the most part been removed from power and replaced by people who will follow the instructions of the people we will be boom as a nation once the dust has settled.

LEAVING THE BUILDING

Thread title "Remainders obliterated." The case rests, saddo.

You see in Burt's post, thinly veiled, a hankering for an authoritarian closing down of dissent. "Taking back control."

and if we are talking about people who are so seething that they advocate violence then what about the remainer monisha rajesh and madonna? seething remainers.

and can anyone guess which seething forumite said the following?


The shame of this country


Its Prime Minister staying for three months as a waiting tactic, so the UK can stay in the EU like cancer.

You see in Burt's post, thinly veiled, a hankering for an authoritarian closing down of dissent.

that's pretty rich coming from you.
for years anyone that dared to express any concern whatsoever about immigration was shouted down as a racist. the PC brigade was a huge authoritarian monster used to silence any dissenting voices. no more.

the same monster used to silence voices who called out the biggest theft and fraud in the history of mankind. no more.

your day has gone. normal, decent people are taking back control and we will move forward accordingly.get used to it.

To me there is no doubt that the strategic aim of the alt-Right is the destruction of the EU. Otherwise Brexit makes no sense. May is perceived to be lying when she says that she wants a strong Europe.

Normal decent people ffs  Farage , Nutall , May  and Murdoch

do you have anything to say about what the guardian remainer monisha rajesh said re Trump?

anything at all?

Time will tell. The half of thgthge country who voted Leave have blamed immigration on their circumstances. Once the scapegoats have gone, and the "left behind" people are still struggling, who are they going to blame?

I'm more of a Marina Hyde fan, Burt. What did Monisha say?

and btw, murdoch is just a businessman, nutall is irrelevant as he isn't even an MP yet and might not be.

may is PM and we wait and see if she delivers. we are of course watching her closely.

nigel is different, a man that has changed this country forever and for the better. a man who has made it his lifes work to free us from the galactico corruptos of the EUSSR. history will remember him as a british legend.

you know very well what she said.

"Gallictico corroptos" - you are a wordsmith Burt.
I think Trump will screw the UK over trade but have no idea who Monishi is even..

Murdoch is a businessman yes he his he's been running this country for 30 years

That's correct anxious.
And who can forget the early editions of The Sun last June 24th, when they thought they had lost? Farage, the seven time loser, who had bottled a TV appearance with Alastair Campbell the previous evening, found time for half a front-page whine about the "****" election (postal vote extension); the rest of it was devoted to the fractured state of the country following (they thought) a narrow remain victory.
I wish I had kept my copy because, funnily enough, that is one front page of The Sun that you can't readily find on the internet.

Feb 9, 2017 -- 7:48PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:

That's correct anxious. And who can forget the early editions of The Sun last June 24th, when they thought they had lost? Farage, the seven time loser, who had bottled a TV appearance with Alastair Campbell the previous evening, found time for half a front-page whine about the "****" election (postal vote extension); the rest of it was devoted to the fractured state of the country following (they thought) a narrow remain victory. I wish I had kept my copy because, funnily enough, that is one front page of The Sun that you can't readily find on the internet.

YES BUT YOU LOST OK TA

It has just been revealed that Rupert Murdoch was in the room the entire time that his lap-dog Michael Gove was interviewing Donald Trump.

It has also been revealed...and this is the FINAL SCORE...and i DO mean final score...ready hobknob

BREXIT 1-WHINGERS 0.

OK...WEIGHED IN

Weighed in would suggest first and second rather than 1-0

billy bragg once again showed the absolute ridiculous argument of the luvies last night on qt saying we,d all be indoctrinated with the trump speil if he spoke in the commons but had a face like a slapped arse when it was pointed out we wernt all indoctrinated by the kuwaities,china,pinochet etc,etc,i once fought the leftyie fight but their clambering around like drunken sailors on a ship at present,no logic in their thoughts been offended for the sake of it

I once fought the leftie fight also, then I woke up.

Dear me are you one the travellers that has now become enlightened

Paid up Guardian reader for years

At least it wasn't the Murdoch garbage , oh hang on

*nearer twenty years than ten