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twizzle22
08 Feb 17 20:40
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By:
1st time poster
When: 08 Feb 17 20:44
clive lewis resiging must be like a captain getting sent off at wembley in the 90th min for dissent whilst winning 10 nil,wtf,s that all about,me,me,me
By:
doridoru
When: 08 Feb 17 21:49
LaughLaughLaugh

Facts, Breeding idiot etc...all in tears!
By:
twizzle22
When: 08 Feb 17 22:27
Not even headline news on the BBC...had the vote gone the other way no doubt.. the footy would have been interrupted to break the story..more seething in Salford tonightLaugh
By:
Wallflower
When: 08 Feb 17 22:36
I'm pro-Brexit for personal / political reasons (not that I think its a good thing overall, but not bothered either way)- but I'm very afraid this battle has even started - wouldn't get too confident about "hard" Brexit if I was you
By:
Wallflower
When: 08 Feb 17 22:37
*hasn't*
By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 17 01:33
A fair few numpties will Soon be laughing on the other side of their faces Wink
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 09 Feb 17 08:46

Feb 8, 2017 -- 7:33PM, crags wrote:


A fair few numpties will Soon be laughing on the other side of their faces


The whole country in fact.

More divided as a nation than any time in our history. Democracy and capitalism not working for vast swathes. Entrnchment....extremism....instant clamour on every news item and now, fake news item.

We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way

By:
mememe
When: 09 Feb 17 08:52
rtb ...

We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way

count me out on that one.

Don't want any fookin remoaning libtards living near me!!  Fook off to France.
By:
wit-ham
When: 09 Feb 17 09:04
A lot is to do with this Globalisation and computers
skynet on the way,but we will wake up to late
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 09 Feb 17 09:41

Feb 9, 2017 -- 2:52AM, mememe wrote:


rtb ...We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way count me out on that one.Don't want any fookin remoaning libtards living near me!!  Fook off to France.


I ended up getting into some really heated and nasty arguments with life-long friends over the Referendum

Took a step back eventually and realised these people had seen me at my best and worst, some since I was at Primary School. They picked me up when I was down but, crucially, were never the ones to put me there in the first place.

.....and I was going to throw all that away for the outcome of a Referendum?

Well fk me then!

By:
mememe
When: 09 Feb 17 10:48
rtb,
stayed up until 4:30 am on the night of the referendum to see it through.

Golf next morning at 9am.  Golf chum of some years was complaining (he was a Remainer, and knew I was Brexit) that people who voted Brexit were thick and racist.

He knows I'm neither but he still ranted.

If it had gone the other way I would just have been disappointed but accepted the democratic vote.

Remainers (it seems) have behaved deplorably.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 09 Feb 17 11:23
Agree - I've even had some Remain-friends say, with an absolute straight face that I should 'Allow them to grieve the loss of an ideal', which really betrayed depths of utter wimpiness I'd never detected.

I'd have probably done the same as you too had the result gone the other way, but there is culpability on both sides. Like it or not (and I loathe it), the result has given racist carte-blanche they feel to air their poisonous views in newsgroups and in the wider world. A Brexit, when it comes, must never pander to these people or their ideas - this is Britain, proud of our traditions and culture, but always facing outward to the rest of the world.

Soapbox moment over!
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Feb 17 13:47
besides sitting in a bar in magaluf supping san miguel [ which will carry on ] ive yet to hear anyone explain what been a european means,just another luvie soundbite imo
By:
Wallflower
When: 09 Feb 17 13:57
....does mean any more than being British means - a citizen of a political union that has shared cultural values and ideals. You can accept or reject either or both of the above
By:
Wallflower
When: 09 Feb 17 13:58
*doesn't mean*
By:
Wallflower
When: 09 Feb 17 14:02
Scots, English, Welsh - can't really choose not to be one of the above - just are. They can choose to be one or both British or European if they feel they identify with the political and cultural values

Northern Irish - have 3 choices   -  Irish, British, European or any combination!

Irish (republic) - chose not to be British, but most identify as being European
By:
Wallflower
When: 09 Feb 17 14:11
As far as the divide between Remainers / Brexiteers - it is quite serious and nasty at times - basically a 17 people to 16 people split, chances are 50% of your friends / family and colleagues are on the opposite side.

When we finish negotiating with ourselves (not much of a negotiation mind you) and we have to negotiate with the EU who in some aspects will be telling us how it will be - compromises will be made. This could in fact be a good thing and make the whole process more palatable to 48% of the population - so tough EU negotiations may assist in healing the divide in the UK.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 09 Feb 17 14:51
As far as the divide between Remainers / Brexiteers - it is quite serious and nasty at times - basically a 17 people to 16 people split, chances are 50% of your friends / family and colleagues are on the opposite side

“If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.”
- E.M. Forster
By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 17 14:58
It was near enough a 50/50 split. But many who voted to leave are now beginning to realize the implications of their ill though out actions. I'd say it's more 70/30 now.

In favour of remaining of course.
By:
Gin
When: 09 Feb 17 15:10
This poll says otherwise:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/cnn-brexit-poll/

Brexit poll: Six months on, Brits stand by EU referendum decision
By Richard Allen Greene, CNN
Updated 2035 GMT (0435 HKT) December 19, 2016

London (CNN)British voters would repeat their decision to leave the European Union if the "Brexit" referendum were held today, according to a new CNN/ComRes poll released Monday.

Six months after the UK delivered a result that shocked much of the world, 47% of British adults say they would vote Leave, with 45% saying they would choose to Remain, even though nearly half of them expect the decision to hurt them financially.
The remaining 8% of respondents said they didn't know how they would vote.
On June 23, the public voted to leave the European Union by a margin of 52% to 48%, with the Leave side getting more than a million more votes than Remain.
The CNN/ComRes poll suggests that, despite a slide in the value of the pound and accusations that the British government has failed to set out a clear plan for Brexit, Britons have not changed their mind since they delivered arguably the first sign of the populist wave that Donald Trump rode to victory in the US presidential election in November.
By:
Gin
When: 09 Feb 17 15:11
"The British public have spoken and it was to leave the EU," said ComRes chairman Andrew Hawkins.
"This poll should serve as a warning to Remain campaigners who want to force a second referendum that the clock cannot be turned back without risking a huge public backlash. Most of the public think the June result should stand and even some 17% of those who believe their personal finances will worsen post-Brexit would still vote to Leave," he said.
The poll results suggest that the British voted with their hearts, not their wallets: Only a quarter of them (24%) said they thought they would be personally better off financially as a result of Brexit.
Nearly half (44%), by contrast, said they personally expected to be worse off financially because of Brexit. The other third (32%) of respondents said they didn't know.

But perhaps surprisingly, nearly half (47%) of the public said they expected the country's long-term economic prospects to be better outside the European bloc.
Just over one in three (36%) said they expected the country to be worse off, while the remaining 16% didn't know.
Populism: What next after Trump and Brexit?

Populism: What next after Trump and Brexit? 02:30
More than half (55%) of people who responded to the CNN/ComRes poll said they expected immigration to decrease when the country leaves the EU -- a perennial political issue in the United Kingdom.
One in three people (32%) said they did not expect Brexit to affect immigration, and 13% said they did not know.
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Feb 17 15:13
Excellent response Gin
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:15
do not trust the remainers, it better to torment them, its good for them.
but don`t trust them, because they don`t deserve to be trusted.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:17
it is no more a question of having to live together than it was before brexit
so they should pipe down.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:18
they are the ones who are going to have to adjust to the new reality.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:19
if they are not capable of change, too bad.
life is a hard taskmaster.
By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 17 15:19
Gin, there will always be a lot of pretendy people who don't want to lose face.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:24
the remainers are hanging on by their fingertips, very undignified.
what must the rest of the world think of them ?
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Feb 17 15:25
If you want to listen to two remainers spitting bile and acting generally like spoilt children tune into James o'Brien @ 9AM(mon-fri) and Nick Abbot@ 10PM(weekends)on LBC...the pair of them just simply CANNOT accept the referendum result
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:25
no one admires that, there is nothing so repulsive as needyness
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Feb 17 15:26
crags...is that all you've gotLaugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:28
the rest of the world must look on in amazement at the remainers, they never suspected the
British could be so servile.
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Feb 17 15:30
would be a much wider margin in favour of leave in a 2nd vote. loads of reluctant remainers who would switch sides now that sky hasn't fallen in since last june
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:30
had the brexiteers lost there would have been a shrug of the shoulders and that would have been the end of it.
By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 17 15:32

Feb 9, 2017 -- 9:30AM, lfc1971 wrote:


had the brexiteers lost there would have been a shrug of the shoulders and that would have been the end of it.


That's because they are a bunch of losers, so are well used to it, maybe?

By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Feb 17 15:34
o'Brien this morning was bleating on about how right wing our press are forgetting to mention the entire broadcasting organisations are totally left wing.I tried to get on his show but the only callers being allowed on were remainers...not one disagreed with his lefty views.
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Feb 17 15:35
I think you will find that we won and you lost crags so DO try and accept the result
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Feb 17 15:37
everyone`s a loser, that`s a very curious thing to say.
it tells us something about the remainers, don`t worry no one respects people
with that sort of attitude
By:
Wallflower
When: 09 Feb 17 15:37
Utter bulsh1t, lfc  -  Farage vowed to "fight on" when he practically conceded the referendum result. Leave campaign started petition to have second referendum if less than 70% voted or result was with 10% or something like that.

I don't have an issue with this, they are perfectly entitled to do so.

I just have an issue with your incorrect postHappy
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