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clive lewis resiging must be like a captain getting sent off at wembley in the 90th min for dissent whilst winning 10 nil,wtf,s that all about,me,me,me
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![]() ![]() ![]() Facts, Breeding idiot etc...all in tears! |
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Not even headline news on the BBC...had the vote gone the other way no doubt.. the footy would have been interrupted to break the story..more seething in Salford tonight
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I'm pro-Brexit for personal / political reasons (not that I think its a good thing overall, but not bothered either way)- but I'm very afraid this battle has even started - wouldn't get too confident about "hard" Brexit if I was you
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*hasn't*
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A fair few numpties will Soon be laughing on the other side of their faces
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rtb ...
We have got to live together somehow but where we are and where we are heading is not the way count me out on that one. Don't want any fookin remoaning libtards living near me!! Fook off to France. |
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A lot is to do with this Globalisation and computers
skynet on the way,but we will wake up to late |
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rtb,
stayed up until 4:30 am on the night of the referendum to see it through. Golf next morning at 9am. Golf chum of some years was complaining (he was a Remainer, and knew I was Brexit) that people who voted Brexit were thick and racist. He knows I'm neither but he still ranted. If it had gone the other way I would just have been disappointed but accepted the democratic vote. Remainers (it seems) have behaved deplorably. |
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Agree - I've even had some Remain-friends say, with an absolute straight face that I should 'Allow them to grieve the loss of an ideal', which really betrayed depths of utter wimpiness I'd never detected.
I'd have probably done the same as you too had the result gone the other way, but there is culpability on both sides. Like it or not (and I loathe it), the result has given racist carte-blanche they feel to air their poisonous views in newsgroups and in the wider world. A Brexit, when it comes, must never pander to these people or their ideas - this is Britain, proud of our traditions and culture, but always facing outward to the rest of the world. Soapbox moment over! |
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besides sitting in a bar in magaluf supping san miguel [ which will carry on ] ive yet to hear anyone explain what been a european means,just another luvie soundbite imo
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....does mean any more than being British means - a citizen of a political union that has shared cultural values and ideals. You can accept or reject either or both of the above
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*doesn't mean*
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Scots, English, Welsh - can't really choose not to be one of the above - just are. They can choose to be one or both British or European if they feel they identify with the political and cultural values
Northern Irish - have 3 choices - Irish, British, European or any combination! Irish (republic) - chose not to be British, but most identify as being European |
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As far as the divide between Remainers / Brexiteers - it is quite serious and nasty at times - basically a 17 people to 16 people split, chances are 50% of your friends / family and colleagues are on the opposite side.
When we finish negotiating with ourselves (not much of a negotiation mind you) and we have to negotiate with the EU who in some aspects will be telling us how it will be - compromises will be made. This could in fact be a good thing and make the whole process more palatable to 48% of the population - so tough EU negotiations may assist in healing the divide in the UK. |
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As far as the divide between Remainers / Brexiteers - it is quite serious and nasty at times - basically a 17 people to 16 people split, chances are 50% of your friends / family and colleagues are on the opposite side
“If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.” - E.M. Forster |
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It was near enough a 50/50 split. But many who voted to leave are now beginning to realize the implications of their ill though out actions. I'd say it's more 70/30 now.
In favour of remaining of course. |
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This poll says otherwise:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/cnn-brexit-poll/ Brexit poll: Six months on, Brits stand by EU referendum decision By Richard Allen Greene, CNN Updated 2035 GMT (0435 HKT) December 19, 2016 London (CNN)British voters would repeat their decision to leave the European Union if the "Brexit" referendum were held today, according to a new CNN/ComRes poll released Monday. Six months after the UK delivered a result that shocked much of the world, 47% of British adults say they would vote Leave, with 45% saying they would choose to Remain, even though nearly half of them expect the decision to hurt them financially. The remaining 8% of respondents said they didn't know how they would vote. On June 23, the public voted to leave the European Union by a margin of 52% to 48%, with the Leave side getting more than a million more votes than Remain. The CNN/ComRes poll suggests that, despite a slide in the value of the pound and accusations that the British government has failed to set out a clear plan for Brexit, Britons have not changed their mind since they delivered arguably the first sign of the populist wave that Donald Trump rode to victory in the US presidential election in November. |
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"The British public have spoken and it was to leave the EU," said ComRes chairman Andrew Hawkins.
"This poll should serve as a warning to Remain campaigners who want to force a second referendum that the clock cannot be turned back without risking a huge public backlash. Most of the public think the June result should stand and even some 17% of those who believe their personal finances will worsen post-Brexit would still vote to Leave," he said. The poll results suggest that the British voted with their hearts, not their wallets: Only a quarter of them (24%) said they thought they would be personally better off financially as a result of Brexit. Nearly half (44%), by contrast, said they personally expected to be worse off financially because of Brexit. The other third (32%) of respondents said they didn't know. But perhaps surprisingly, nearly half (47%) of the public said they expected the country's long-term economic prospects to be better outside the European bloc. Just over one in three (36%) said they expected the country to be worse off, while the remaining 16% didn't know. Populism: What next after Trump and Brexit? Populism: What next after Trump and Brexit? 02:30 More than half (55%) of people who responded to the CNN/ComRes poll said they expected immigration to decrease when the country leaves the EU -- a perennial political issue in the United Kingdom. One in three people (32%) said they did not expect Brexit to affect immigration, and 13% said they did not know. |
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Excellent response Gin
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do not trust the remainers, it better to torment them, its good for them.
but don`t trust them, because they don`t deserve to be trusted. |
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it is no more a question of having to live together than it was before brexit
so they should pipe down. |
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they are the ones who are going to have to adjust to the new reality.
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if they are not capable of change, too bad.
life is a hard taskmaster. |
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Gin, there will always be a lot of pretendy people who don't want to lose face.
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the remainers are hanging on by their fingertips, very undignified.
what must the rest of the world think of them ? |
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If you want to listen to two remainers spitting bile and acting generally like spoilt children tune into James o'Brien @ 9AM(mon-fri) and Nick Abbot@ 10PM(weekends)on LBC...the pair of them just simply CANNOT accept the referendum result
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no one admires that, there is nothing so repulsive as needyness
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crags...is that all you've got
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the rest of the world must look on in amazement at the remainers, they never suspected the
British could be so servile. |
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would be a much wider margin in favour of leave in a 2nd vote. loads of reluctant remainers who would switch sides now that sky hasn't fallen in since last june
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had the brexiteers lost there would have been a shrug of the shoulders and that would have been the end of it.
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o'Brien this morning was bleating on about how right wing our press are forgetting to mention the entire broadcasting organisations are totally left wing.I tried to get on his show but the only callers being allowed on were remainers...not one disagreed with his lefty views.
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I think you will find that we won and you lost crags so DO try and accept the result
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everyone`s a loser, that`s a very curious thing to say.
it tells us something about the remainers, don`t worry no one respects people with that sort of attitude |
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Utter bulsh1t, lfc - Farage vowed to "fight on" when he practically conceded the referendum result. Leave campaign started petition to have second referendum if less than 70% voted or result was with 10% or something like that.
I don't have an issue with this, they are perfectly entitled to do so. I just have an issue with your incorrect post ![]() |