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By:
Ovalman.
When: 26 Mar 17 15:06
Last year my sprouts suffered from a mildew that ruined them but it was caused by the plants too close together. I'll take your advice and plant towards the end of May. One pot will hold 1 plant so at most I'll only use 2 pots.
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Mar 17 16:50
Visited the allotment today to start tidying up. No weeds coming through yet so still too cold to sow seeds. Topped up the raised beds and filled in the holes dug by badgers looking for worms.
Picked an armful of rhubarb, first crop of the new season and gave some to the neighbours, will have a bowl of stewed rhubarb later with plenty more for mixing with breakfast porridge.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 26 Mar 17 17:47
Ovalman. 26 Mar 17 12:00 Joined: 29 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 14,089 | Blogger: Ovalman.'s blog
I've no interest in growing flowers, if you can't eat it I won't grow it


If you're referring to Crippen's advice re nasturtiums, then they are not just edible, they're delicious, both the leaves and the flowers, lovely peppery taste.

I can't believe anyone has trouble with radishes, whatever the situation. Nothing seems to stop them growing. It's why I concentrate on them. Some varieties are better suited to summer than early spring, which might be what's causing problems. Generally I find that the round ones, like sparkler, are best for early March and cool weather, while the elongated ones, like french breakfast, are more suited to late spring and early summer. But that might just be coincidence.

But what I like is that even when they fail, you can still eat the greens, so you always gat something (in fact the greens is where most of the goodness lies).

The first things I planted when I had to move here was a row of sparkler radishes, and a few weeks later I was cursing next door's cat when I found half of them scattered. Never mind, just salvage the green remains, so all is not lost. It was only while digging them up for dinner that I found the bone I'd given the dog the previous day.

The dog and I had a full and frank discussion with regard to that one, and she's a clever dog and she now takes her bones next door to bury,
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Mar 17 17:53
funnily screaming' , sparkler is the radish I have crossed off my list as my worst performer - Sad
By:
Ovalman.
When: 26 Mar 17 17:57
I buy my tomato plants from a nursery because their always in great shape (and I can buy different varieties) but I've never had luck with toms from seed yet they are probably the easiest to grow. I guess we all have problems. It's never an exact science but it's usually (but not always) foolproof, plant a seed and it grows.

Loving this thread BTW but come on guys show some pics Happy
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 26 Mar 17 18:27
Maybe sparkler attracts dogs with bones, Delta, and that's what ruined your crop.

It could be I'm just lucky with the climate living down in Zummerzet. But saxa 2 is another round radish which I've found works well in March. Very cheap to buy the seeds in Lidl. (Did you know that the German equivalent of "pushing up the daisies" is "die Radieschen von unten wachsen sehen" - "watching the radishes grow from underneath"? I've never tried growing radishes over a corpse myself, but you wouldn't want to argue with German logic.)

More seriously, this website has satisfied reviews for saxa 2 from US punters who'd previously had poor results from radishes:

http://www.rareseeds.com/saxa-2-rad/

Anyone else been enjoying dandelions with mayo in their sandwiches for some early fresh greens? And I've got some stinging nettle leaves to chuck in with the pasta bolognese for dinner now.
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Mar 17 18:31
the dog has weed on them stinging nettle leaves screaming' ... Grin
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 26 Mar 17 19:01
That's why I got a b1tch. (shrewd smilie)
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Mar 17 19:08
Growing tomato plants from seeds is dependent on keeping them warm.

If you put the young seedling outside to try and harden them off and the temperature drops a tad that's enough to wipe them out. 

I start them off in the house until they're growing quite strongly before I even move them into the greenhouse.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 27 Mar 17 08:21
I ripped a load of pallet boards lengthways on my table saw and knocked up a dozen fan shaped trellis last night. These are going along my fence for my Sweet pea plants to grow up.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 27 Mar 17 13:15
I don't have a greenhouse , so grow tomatoes and chillis in the two empty bedrooms we have.
Worked well last year , tomatoes are about 3 inches in height at the moment.
By:
Deltâ
When: 27 Mar 17 19:10
this evenings bash


Radish x 2 - Scarlet Globe and Cherry Belle

Basil x 3 - Sweet / Napoletano / Mixed


fingers crossed


night time temps should be up a bit from tomorrow onwards for a while   - and April gonna be the busy planting month Grin
By:
Ovalman.
When: 27 Mar 17 20:41
I spent 30 minutes on my site, I nicked some of that soil so I'll finish my raised bed tomorrow and then start into other peoples beds, there's mountains of it and I think it's for our use anyway.

I planted some seed potatoes in 2 bags, that's my first earlies started. I'll get a main crop in another 2 bags and then keep some more first earlies for a late crop. I've no space for any more around my raised bed but I could use other parts of the Church to put the bags, they won't need any light until they are well topped up with soil so they can be stored almost anywhere, we'll see.
By:
Facts
When: 28 Mar 17 01:58
sixtwosix    27 Mar 17 13:15 
I don't have a greenhouse , so grow tomatoes and chillis in the two empty bedrooms we have.
Worked well last year , tomatoes are about 3 inches in height at the moment.



Are you sure they're just tomatoes/chillies ??!! Laugh
By:
padlock
When: 28 Mar 17 02:53
Put some seeds in ground yesterday,spinach red veined and sweetcorn
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 28 Mar 17 08:35
Well i have never had such "leggy" tomato seedlings before, needle thin and 3 inch tall in a couple of days Crazy  They are on the same windowsill as every other year and couldn't be getting any more light.

They will deffo be potted on "deep" to lose at least half the height.
By:
Deltâ
When: 30 Mar 17 14:44
20 degrees today


thats made the tom seeds pop thru Grin
By:
Foinavon
When: 30 Mar 17 21:52
Potatoes chitted and ready for planting next week.

By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 30 Mar 17 23:00


Peppers. I used just some perlite and home-made compost this year. None of your specialist seed compost with added John Innes and whatnot. Curious to see how robust the seedlings are when I transplant them. That won't be a while, with cooler overnight temps being forecast.



Rocket in a south-facing belfast sink
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 30 Mar 17 23:06


Cress in the greenhouse growing on a sheet of kitchen towel. (Getting desperate for subject matter at this point, but Ovalman did ask for pics, and it's hard to find interesting subjects in March; nicely chitted, by the way, Foinavon.)



Not really gardening, but I had some unkempt hazel bushes growing behind the old outdoor privy, which I got round to laying 3 years ago. You can see how the laid, horizontal branches have begun transforming themselves into a proper hedge.
By:
Foinavon
When: 30 Mar 17 23:28
The rocket looks good, Screaming. I've tried to grow it outside and either it gets stripped by slugs (if wet) or bolts if dry. Perhaps growing it in a large container somewhere protected is the way to go. I love rocket but the shop-bought stuff doesn't stay fresh for long.
By:
Facts
When: 30 Mar 17 23:53
My potatoes chatted too and will be planted in prepared bed next week. Very clay soil , recent rain made ground on workable, but the fine sunny days this week
have improved things no end.
Cucumber seedlings  starting to come on  nicely. on window shelf. Ready for greenhouse and then repotting. Potted seeds of Runner beans in greenhouse today..
By:
Facts
When: 30 Mar 17 23:54
* chitted  Laugh
By:
Deltâ
When: 31 Mar 17 08:18
great pics chaps



is it real[ly] cress or oil seed rape - [that seems to be the substitute in most packs/pots lately]?


I found proper cress seed was getting too expensive....
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 31 Mar 17 09:40
The ones in the picture were from seeds marked Lepidium sativum, which, according to wikipedia, is "sometimes referred to as garden cress to distinguish it from similar plants also referred to as cress". So I assume it's the real McCoy. In any case, it tasted fine, which is all that matters.

It wasn't expensive enough to notice. I know this, because otherwise
1) I wouldn't have bought it, and
2) it wouldn't have been on sale in Lidl in the first place.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 31 Mar 17 12:15
Here are my Peppers, with specialist PH seed compost with added John Innes Grin





Here is one of my "leggy" toms



And potted on "deep" to lose the legginess.

By:
Deltâ
When: 31 Mar 17 14:05
when did you start them Peppers Smar '  - they look very good!
By:
sixtwosix
When: 31 Mar 17 14:48
I have potatoes peeping out of the soil in 3 pots which were half filled already .....not too surprising with lots of rain and temps up to 16 degrees.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 31 Mar 17 16:21
Delta - 08th of Feb, and from my notes they first poked through on the 18th of Feb.
By:
Deltâ
When: 31 Mar 17 16:28
tar


good stuff -


I dont seed in till next week with peppers - think I need to bring that forward looking at yours ...
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 31 Mar 17 17:08
Well they looked really good last year Delta, but didn't produce anything really, neither the ones i kept in the polytunnel or the ones i left outside up against a south(ish) facing wall.

This is a different variety this year, time will tell i guess.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 31 Mar 17 17:17
I love the pics!

Bought some parsnip along with Turnip and Swede tape. I'll plant the Parsnip along with the Turnip now and put a row of Swede in after I harvest my first carrots.

What's the difference between a turnip and swede? I know Taylor was a Turnip and Errikson a Swede before someone chips in Grin
By:
Deltâ
When: 31 Mar 17 17:32
^ about 20p


Grin
By:
Foinavon
When: 31 Mar 17 17:44
Turnips are faster growing. I think swedes are a hybrid originally developed for cattle feed. Both are brassicas.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 01 Apr 17 15:37
Thanks for that Happy

The new section was officially opened today. Half of it is for foodbank use, the other half is for residents of a building attached to it.  They've only 1 water butt, they will suffer in hot weather. The soil is for everyone so I took some more Devil

I planted broadbeans and peas in those pots I linked to. Carrots and rocket in smaller pots (carrots are small golf ball type.) Beetroot, parsnip, radish and turnip in my raised bed. I watered the polytunnel. idk who's looking after it but there's a load of veg popped through. I'm hoping Lidl have strawberries soon (they usually do) as I don't want to pay extortionate prices in a garden centre. I'm growing alpine strawberries but I need 20 or so regular plants.

My raised bed is the only one that has had any work done to it Confused
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 01 Apr 17 15:50
I have just sown Beetroot (Bolthardy) and Chard (Bright Lights), in tubs, in the polytunnel.

All of my carrots look to be through now, they are in large tubs outside.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 01 Apr 17 16:00
An interesting thing about my toms, i kept half in the house on the windowsill and put the other half in the polytunnel on the top of that bench i built. Now the polytunnel temperature got down to just above freezing at least twice !

The seedlings in the polytunnel look just as good as the ones in the house Crazy
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Apr 17 22:35
Did you say that your toms are from seeds saved from previous years' crops? If so, then they're presumably pretty hardy, since they came from plants which had thrived in your climate and circumstances in the E Midlands.

Ovalman: re the water situation: are you collecting it via the guttering from the roofs of the surrounding buildings? If so, then you should be able to collect plenty of rainwater from the large roof area of all those buildings. If you can find some spare bins, and empty the contents of the collecting butt into those bins as soon as it fills, then you'd at least be taking full advantage of that roof area, by ensuring that less rainwater is wasted owing to the butt overflowing.

My question is for Foinavon, regarding my blackcurrants. In the pic you can see the cut-down rootstock I planted in the bottom left, and to its right the three cuttings I recovered  and planted thanks to your advice. I know this might be a stupid and pointless question, but since it's still so early in the season, would it be possible (or sensible) to cut those three cuttings in half and stick the fresh cuttings in the ground too? Or would I just be pushing my luck, considering how well the three original cuttings are going as things are?

By:
Foinavon
When: 01 Apr 17 22:54
They are doing well, Screaming. Since the leaf buds have opened I would leave them alone. If you take another cutting the sap demand of those leaves would be difficult to meet without roots and stripping them off might not work. You will be able to take plenty more cuttings in the autumn.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Apr 17 23:11
That makes perfect sense. Thanks.
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