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By:
Smar Tarse
When: 14 Feb 17 12:10
I did my Sweat Pea already, i have them in the polytunnel, which has been as low as 5°C over the weekend.
By:
Capt__F
When: 14 Feb 17 13:55
is it ok to prune cherry blossom tree this time of year ?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 14 Feb 17 15:12
I've found cherry trees to be really poor as firewood because of all the sap, so I'd leave pruning it until about August. By that time this year's growth will have taken place, and it won't matter that you cut it and drain the sap out.

But I'm no expert. Anything bar fruit trees my only real concern is how good is it in the woodburner?

(Got any of that ash going spare, Smar Tarse?)
By:
Capt__F
When: 14 Feb 17 15:50
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By:
Smar Tarse
When: 14 Feb 17 15:53
(Got any of that ash going spare, Smar Tarse?)

I have just put a stove in my man-cave Happy
By:
blackbarn
When: 14 Feb 17 20:56
Hello (particularly to Foinavon) - I'm late to the party this year.

Re the Japanese Cherries (Prunus) - Do not prune unless absolutely essential or early in the trees life - they resent it. Just take out dead, damaged or crossing wood.   If you need to prune it hard, the tree is in the wrong place.

Anyone pruning apples at the mo?  Discuss!!
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 15 Feb 17 12:36
Several bags of 10mm pea gravel piled into the barrow has put the foam wheel to the test !
The foam has compacted and now it has a baggy tyre just like it has a puncture again Plain

Mind you i did read online that it needs a "top-up" after its first use, so i haven't given up on it just yet Grin
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 15 Feb 17 14:44
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By:
Foinavon
When: 15 Feb 17 17:11
Hello Blackbarn, good to see you back.

One of my apple trees has been trained as an espalier and I just cut new growth back to three or four buds to form new spurs. The other tree has a dwarfing stock and is pruned to keep an open crown. I normally do this just after picking the fruit. I have bought another apple and pear to be planted as soon as I can get out to the allotment. How did your fruit trees perform last year? I had plenty of apples but no quince. Hoping for some this autumn.
By:
blackbarn
When: 15 Feb 17 17:52
Hi Foinavon - all my trees are on MM106 Rootstock which I think is the second biggest (about 15ft at maturity).  We had quite a good crop last year but I was still formation pruning as opposed to fruit pruning. The trees are just coming up to four years old. These year is the first year of just fruit pruning - mainly spur pruning, but I have a few tip bearers which need different treatment.  We had a bit of  deer damage but I have just had the whole orchard deer fenced (ouch!!!) so things should now be better. No rabbit damage as I have a ferret man and the whole orchard is rabbit fenced anyway.  The fenced area also contains my veg garden which is eight raised beds each 3.5m long by 1.5m wide. One bed is all Rhubarb (three varieties), one is all Asparagus, and one is reserved for Sweet Peas. The rest are rotational with the usual vegetable suspects. Might have another go at Florence Fennel this year.  Remember my previous failure?
By:
Foinavon
When: 15 Feb 17 18:32
My raised beds are made from builders bags. Not pretty, but functional. They are great for growing carrots and parsnips.
I remember the fennel and counselling against them. You have a better climate than me so why not? Good luck with them this time.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 15 Feb 17 19:30
I pulled some carrots from a small pot tonight which I thought were just weeds/ dead growth as I cleared some of my stuff. Just shows you can grow all year round.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 16 Feb 17 08:49
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Screeming - I had looked at new wheels, my barrow has seen some hard work over the years, i have welded it several times already Blush  If i have to lay out any cash then i think i might as well get a new barrow.


I suppose i could always do a Trigger Grin https://youtu.be/BUl6PooveJE
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 18 Feb 17 09:41
I put my pepper seeds in pots on a windowsill on the 8th of Feb. Today i have the first lot poking through, the hot variety called Razzamatazz
By:
Ovalman.
When: 18 Feb 17 10:03
I don't know why I bother growing chillies, I hardly use them and don't like the extra hot varieties.

B&M have mixed packets of seeds for 89p (Salad pack, Tomato pack, Root Veg pack etc.) Great value for small spaces. I also mentioned above the the Kitchen Garden Magazine (bought in Tesco's) has 10 packets of seeds, good mix of varieties. Helps save those pennies.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 18 Feb 17 10:32
Why not just use the seeds from a pepper you do like?
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Feb 17 13:22
Have picked up my seed potatoes for this year.
I'm trying a new red-skinned variety called Manitou which is claimed to be an improvement on Desiree.
Have also bought Saxon, a tried and tested second early which has excellent flavour.
They need chitting and will be planted out at the end of March.

The first daffodil came out in bloom in my garden this morning, cheered me up no end.
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Feb 17 15:23
two reds - Robinta and Rudolf - for a try here this season Foinavon
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Feb 17 15:35
Rudolph are very good, Delta, have never tried Robinta and will ask you about them in September.
I tried Rooster last season and they were very good but the seed potatoes were expensive.
By:
Facts
When: 25 Feb 17 17:35
All ordered flower and veg seeds plus Pentlanfd Javelin potatoes received  today.
Appropriate Indoor  seed planting starts tomorrow.Happy
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 25 Feb 17 19:55
has anyone had 3 cornered leek invading the  garden its a b,stard to get shot of !
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Feb 17 11:51
Eat it, it's good for you.
By:
padlock
When: 26 Feb 17 12:43
Turned over soil in 3 raised beds,nearly ready for seeds,put bit compost and seaweed in soil.
Cleaning up small greenhouse and will go at whole project this week
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 27 Feb 17 11:09
Update on my Sweet Pea seeds ( Sir Henry Cecil ).

I put several seeds around the outer edge of 6" pots on Tuesday the 31st of January and put them in the polytunnel. Today ( 27th of Feb ) there are quite a few poking through Excited
By:
Ovalman.
When: 27 Feb 17 17:42
Alpine Strawberry x 12
1 x Little Gem Lettuce
1 x Lettuce All Year Round
1 x Cauliflower
1 x Cabbage

Started in a window sill propagator.

Any thoughts about how many Broad Beans or peas I could put into the following containers? I don't want to overcrowd them but I also don't want to waste space.

http://i68.tinypic.com/34htm5e.jpg
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Feb 17 18:04
I've never grown peas or beans in containers but here are my thoughts.
Peas can be planted an inch apart in open ground but if overcrowded become susceptible to mildew.
You will need good air circulation so my suggestion if 3 rows of 10 per container.
If you grow a tall variety like Alderman, you will get more pods over a longer harvest period.

Broad beans are normally spaced 9 inches in blocks. You need to space them closer in your containers and I would suggest you try 9 (3 rows of 3) to each container.

Ensure that the containers have very good drainage and water regularly, never let them dry out.
You will need to feed them with a liquid feed to have a decent yield.
By:
trilby22
When: 27 Feb 17 18:19
Posted earlier but it seems to have disappeared.

Only said that none of my pepper seeds looked like doing anything till I put all the pots into poly bags - to keep the moisture in - over the w/e.

Lent begins tomorrow ... good time to start growing properly, imo Happy
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 27 Feb 17 18:46
Pepper seeds ... toothpicks in each pot, polythene bag resting on the toothpicks, layer of paper over the polythene to keep the direct light off until they poke through.

Then keep each pot open and watered on the windowsill. If you're planning to grow them in an unheated greenhouse, as I do, don't transplant them and stick them in the greenhouse until overnight temps are over 10C.

If you do stick them in the greenhouse too early, cover them with fleeces or newspaper if cold nights are forecast..
By:
trilby22
When: 27 Feb 17 19:05
Thanks, Screecher, I'll be in http://www.diy.com/ tomorrow.

Is it still early enough to plant fresh seeds?
By:
Ovalman.
When: 27 Feb 17 19:30
My local nursery does some great Tomato, Pepper, Cucumber, Chili plants that are well looked after at a cheap enough price (70p each). Much better than growing from seed. It also means you can buy several different varieties for not much more than a packet of seeds. No need to buy until the middle of April.

Thanks for that Foinavan, I've asked on another forum and was told 3 broadbean seeds per pot. This was a figure I was thinking of but I may try one with 2, 3, 4 and 6 and see what works best. Peas I think I can put in 9. The pots are 1ftx1ftx1ft but they taper in towards the bottom.

Thought this was of use, a personalised veg planner: http://gardenfocused.co.uk/calendar-veg-personalised.php

And also of use to me was square foot garden plans: https://www.quickcrop.co.uk/learning/video/square-foot-gardening
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Feb 17 21:10
Yes, the more room you give them, the better they will thrive. You won't get many broad beans off three plants, though. If you grow tall peas you could fan them out on the supports if you have room, which will give them more light and improve air circulation.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 27 Feb 17 22:05
Luckily I've bought the right variety of Broad Bean "The Sutton", they are a bush variety and are recommended for containers. I plan on filling all 4 pots with these and 4 pots each of Peas, French Bean, Runner Bean and Mange Tout. I think this will give me more than enough to keep me going. Water is a big issue, we don't have an outside tap so I've been reading up on drip watering systems made with empty pop bottles.
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Feb 17 22:15
Let us know how you get on Happy I find a big watering can does the job quite well.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 27 Feb 17 22:40
Trilby22: Still plenty of time to plant pepper seeds. With our climate they don't really start maturing until early summer. Some years I've had seedlings 2 or 3" high stuck in yoghurt pots on the window sill well into May owing to the lack of spring warmth. But once they're transplanted into pots and placed in a sunny greenhouse, they soon make up for lost time.

Same with any plants in my experience, whether outdoors or in unheated greenhouses. There's little to gain by trying to start too early. If there's not enough daylight or heat, then you might as well be patient and wait for the right conditions. Most crops rapidly make up for lost time, and you're no worse off.

I have a simple rule for outdoor crops. Don't plant anything until the weeds are thriving.
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Feb 17 22:44
Reminds me of the old adage of the soil being warm enough when a bare-cheeked maiden can sit comfortably on it.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 27 Feb 17 22:50
By the way, Trilby. Don't ditch the peppers you've already sown. Keep your polythene over them, and add a sheet of newspaper on top to keep out the light, and as long as you keep the pots moist, almost certainly, just when you've given up, you'll see tiny, yellowish stems curling out of the compost one morning.

If you do sow some more, try mixing a generous amount of perlite or vermiculite into the compost. They're both ridiculously pricey for what they are (abundant, naturally occurring minerals). But by absorbing so much water, and releasing it if the compost dries out, it becomes virtually impossible to overwater or underwater the seedlings. Quite important for peppers, because they do need moisture, being tropical plants (hence the need for the polythene to reproduce their native, humid atmosphere). But conversely they don't enjoy waterlogged soil (which obviously tropical warmth prevents).
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 27 Feb 17 23:23
My peppers took 10 days to poke through. Two seeds in each pot on a windowsill.

Pots filled 10mm from the top with John Innes, seeds dropped on the top and then finely sieved PH compost on top. Looks like being a good germination rate.
By:
padlock
When: 28 Feb 17 05:37
Broccoli, Spinach ,tomatoes ,carrots ,parsnips ,too cold to put seeds in yet .
By:
Deltâ
When: 28 Feb 17 08:40
cant see the point of sowing Brassica's and winter roots now, they are gonna be ready in the salad eating season

sow,plant, eat seasonally is the way forward!
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Feb 17 11:55
FoinavonLaughLaugh - Any bare-chested maidens going spare up your way?  My Grandad used to say "When weeds start growing, seeds want sowing".  Not bad advice but I always lag a week or two.

No veg sown here yet, my forced Rhubarb (Timperley Early) is doing well, just top dressed my new Asparagus bed (B,F&B) and my Pots are chitting nicely - First Early = Lady Cristl and Second Early = Marfona.  Havn't even ordered/bought a main crop variety yet! ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ANYONE.

Will be growing three varieties of Carrot, Beetroot (Boltardy), Parsnip (White Gem), Courgette (Soleil), Two Runner Bean varieties (Enorma to eat and Benchmaster to eat/show, plus French Beans (Climbing and bush - not purchased yet! usually grow Blue Lake Climbing but germination was awful and I see my usual supplier is not stocking it this year.

Still need to get Cucumber seeds for the Greenhouse.  Zeina preferred it I can get them.

Good luck all.  Lovely day here in sunny Sussex; typical after a wet. cold, dismal, losing day at Plumpton yesterdayCry. Off to the Albion tonight, biggest game of the season!!
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