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Had to look up the Chewbacca defense... it certainly applies!
Here is lfc presenting his closing argument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14 |
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Whilst we're on it, Gerry's statement in the DM is at odds with Kate's on the programme:
"But the door to the bedroom was open and although Mr McCann thought nothing of it at the time, he is now certain he had previously shut it. A source close to the family today told the Standard: "When Gerry went to check on Madeleine he realised the bedroom door was open. Gerry is firmly of the view the abductor was already in the apartment. "When he went in he saw Madeleine was asleep but the bedroom door was slightly open. He thought, 'That is odd' because he had left it firmly closed. But all the children were asleep. So he just went in and closed the door again and came out at about 9.10pm." Kate said it wasn't firmly closed. It was "more open than how we left it". |
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If anyone has a month to spare and wishes to dig into the police files from the case(translated) this is a good source:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm |
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Have a look at the deleted mobile calls of Gerry and Kate.
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Just reading that one funnily enough.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm |
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[i]itcanbedone 03 Feb 17 16:56
If anyone has a month to spare and wishes to dig into the police files from the case(translated) this is a good source: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm Can we all encourage lfc1971 to analyse these police files. A month without the utterly inane posts from him , would be gratefully received.[/i] |
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is the whereabouts of the priest known what does he no that we dont,why doesnt he take a lie detector test,till this fella is nailed down and thumb screws applied we havnt even started to scratch the surface of what happened despite the millions and time spent on it
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What I heard about the Priest (I used to live near to the village) is that he was a very happy, nice, guy who became very troubled in the immediate aftermath. I heard he was transferred to somewhere a long long way away.
This should be filed under unverified bar stool talk/gossip which may or may not be true. |
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from the mcaans, to the tapas squad, to the priest,to the uk government involvement,to the spokesmen,to the peado stories about the tapas squad etc,etc,
theres surely not a person alive who thinks that those involved at the centre of the crime have told us all they no, you,d need to ignore pages and pages of possible untruths against exactly zilch pointing towards an abduction,and you can add probably dozens of things the police no that we dont |
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Does anyone else understand what I said about McCanns description of what he saw at the apt ?
It is not a question of believing what he said to be true, that's not the point It is the fact that what he said would not have been said if he was guilty , McCann said that when he checked the children were there and the patio door had been moved. Now that is something that someone who was guilty And someone who wanted to cover up and pretend there had been an abduction That us something they would never say There is no scenario whereby someone guilty and hoping to convince police that the child had been abducted would have said what McCann said Only an innocent man would have said that, A guilty man, someone who was hoping to make it look like an abduction would never Under any circumstances say that when he checked the children were fine, and the door was partially moved It may seem counterintuitive, people think that McCann mentioning the moved door and the children being ok may be a way for him to suggest that someone else moved the door, but that's wrong Why is it wrong ? because there is no scenario whereby someone who had decided to try and pretend there was an abduction would have said it. That id why you don't have to believe Gerry McCanns description is true, it is not s case of believing him because what he said could have been only said by someone innocent and someone who didn't know that by saying what he said proved his innocence . It |
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McCann could not have known when he said what he said that it would prove him innocent ,
Why does it ? Because if he had been guilty he would never have said what he said If it was a staged abduction he would never have said what he said Only someone innocent. would have described it in the way McCann did It is impossible that someone guilty, trying to pretend an abduction would have said that when they checked the apt the children were ok but the doors had been moved Does anyone else understand that ? |
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billy joel was an innocent man lfc
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'Possible untruths' do not constitute evidence.
Evidence of an abduction would be what, exactly? A definitive reliable witnesss sighting or some forensic evidence in the apartment, I guess? The absence of either does not definitively imply that no abduction took place. If the hypothesis is that the McCanns got incredibly lucky by avoiding leaving any witness or forensic evidence of her accidential death and disposal, is it not equally plausible that an abductor got simlarly lucky in leaving no trail? |
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^ reply to 1st Time Poster.
Am ignoring lfc's 'noise' at this stage. |
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Yes it is. Someone got incredibly lucky.
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no reports of attempted abductions before or since only in the week that 2 of the coldest fish known to man, with rumours of sex stories within their group,with a hotline to the uk government happened to be in town
as ive said you,d have to write off 100,s of coincidences on one side against nothing on the abduction side,forwhatever reason theres absolutely zilch chance that the tapas 7 have told us all they no,aftet all the money,time,jollys, spent on this its unfathomable why the tapas squad,priest etc havnt been nailed to shoitehouse door till they come clean on what they no |
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itcanbedone
I was referring earlier to the Irish witness. There are difficulties with the times but there is all sorts of contradictory evidence in that regard. I seem to remember the McCanns claimed they went to the tapas bar at 8-30 whereas a witness said they didn`t arrive until 8-55. So allow the Irish witness to be out by 30 minutes either way, allow the McCanns to be out by the same, I don`t see how you can discount or discredit his evidence. The sighting was less than 10 minutes from the crime scene. |
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lfc
A guilty man, someone who was hoping to make it look like an abduction would never Under any circumstances say that when he checked the children were fine, and the door was partially moved You've lost me mate What might a guilty man say? |
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there was lots of chatter between murat,russian mate etc deleted mcaan texts,murat seemed to be knoen to gerry ,maybe she was taken and maybe the tapas crew no who by,but what wil be uncovered meant although unbelievable to us,that they,d rather cover it up
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kkk..the Irish witness saw someone who looked like Gerry at 10......it doesn't really work time wise, even allowing for leeway. Not t mention he was coming from the pub and was without his glasses at the time.
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1st time poster, the bigger the so-called conspiracy that you allude to and the more people involved, the more likely it is to be discovered. I can't buy it...
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So let me get this straight...
Kate actually killed her daughter 2 nights earlier than first thought in a rage because Gerry was flirting with a buxom quiz caller. The rest of the Tapas 7 all played along with it because they were all part of a Paedo ring. Meanwhile, the kids club actually had no kids so no one noticed Madeleine wasn't there. |
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you mean like jimmy saville,hillsbrough etc we,ve got 20 years yet
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A few new things I discoverd today.....
Kate and Gerry lived in Amsterdam for a year when Maddie was young and before the twins were born....Hmmmmmm...the deviants! Worse though and quite damning are words from Kate's 2011 book; "I asked Gerry apprehensively if he'd had any really horrible thoughts or visions of Madeleine. He nodded. Haltingly, I told him about the awful pictures that scrolled through my head of her body, her perfect little genitals torn apart". A quite bizzare turn of phrase, if ever there was one. |
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"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Sherlock Holmes was right all along! |
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The buxom Personal trainer/ quiz Mistress is the one i would like to re-interview
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lfc1971 - in my enire life I have never seen so much written to say nothing of any value whatsoever. If you had written it in Chinese it would probably have made more sense.
Those vehemently defending the McCanns have a lot of difficult questions to answer. Namely (but not exclusively): Why would world-renowned British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, detected the scent of a corpse in 10 places which strongly suggested Madeleine died in the McCanns’ holiday apartment? Why they would leave a child alone the following night after she cried for them? Why they seemed intent on disrupting an investigation into their missing child? Why they deleted important chronological events off their mobiles in the immediate aftermath of their daughter going 'missing'? Why the many changes of story by the McCanns and their friends? Why is their no physical evidence of anyone having entered or left the appartment? Why they didn't offer to help in a search party? Why was the Sniths sighting - the strongest witness sighting ignored by the McCanns? Why they offered, then refused to take a lie detector test? Why Kate McCann wouldn't answer 48 of 49 questions put to her? Why they needed the best lawyers/publicists etc immediately? Why Kate immediately said 'she has been taken' instead of assuming she had wondered off and leave their twins there? Why she washed cuddle cat and cleaned the appartment - including curtains whilst on holiday? Why the Portugese police are adamant they did it? Why did G McCann play tennis the following day as though he hadn't a care in the world? Why has their mortgage been paid off through their 'finding Madelaine fund' and why wasn't it a registered charity? Why did they hire cowboy private detectives with no expertise or experience in finding children? Why would Gaspar (UK GPs) and Yvonne Martin (Social Worker) make statements detailing concerns about G McCann and one of his friends on holiday with them? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck........... |
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its at times like this that i always ask the bottom line question whether innocent or guilty ,would you let your kids go for a week away with the tapas 7
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I`m interested in what you said about the supermarket bins and how they were emptied at midnight. I`m assuming the supermarket is the Baptista which appears to be the rear of the tapas bar and probably not much more than 200 meters from the apartment. So close in fact that anyone staying close by might have been aware that these bins would have been routinely emptied at midnight? It allows for an extraordinarily simple and effective way to dispose of a childs body. No searcher would have been poking around in bins looking for a missing child before midnight. |
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Plenty of those questions have been address in the thread charwell.
I tend to glaze over when people assert that Gerry played tennis the next day (horsesh1t) etc etc etc. |
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priest either forced or decided to go in hiding
connection between murat and gerry |
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KKK, from memory, I think that is what the supermarket is called, yes. And certainly it is very close to the complex.
It's not only the Supermarket's bins that are emptied nightly (around midnight in PdL apparently) it is all bins in the town.....a common practice in hot climates where the rubbish starts to smell very quickly. |
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Not one has been answered to ANY degree of satisfaction.
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No evidence to suggest any connection between Gerry and Murat.
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Not one has been answered to ANY degree of satisfaction.
I disagree. There are several possible logical explanations and answers for the points that they give rise to. |
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So let me get this straight...
Kate actually killed her daughter 2 nights earlier than first thought in a rage because Gerry was flirting with a buxom quiz caller. The rest of the Tapas 7 all played along with it because they were all part of a Paedo ring. Meanwhile, the kids club actually had no kids so no one noticed Madeleine wasn't there. Laugh Part 2 Then 3 weeks later they hire a car and retrieve the sheets in which the dead body was dumped, that they forgot to dump when they dumped the dead body, put it in the boot of said car and dump the sheet.  |
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Google images suggests that there may have been a number of rather large green wheelie bins in the streets. If you knew they were headed for landfill at midnight it makes the disposal of a body a relatively fast and easy task once the town had quietened down in the evening.
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Part 3
Blair and Brown helped to cover it all up because they are fellow Masons and everyone knows that Brown is Gerry's cousin. Have you not seen the facial similarities? |
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KKK...one of the first things the Police should have done, in hindsight, was to cancel the rubbish collection in the village that night. But they were inexperienced, and didn't have much time to get it done.
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