Are children worth the money, time, argument, grief in bringing them up?

love my children

Have 4 and yes they do bring their problems, but by God life wouldn't be worth living without them....

someone once said that when you die you live through your children (if that makes sense)   I really don't believe in any of the religious carp

Yes ,and ditto her indoors, but I have always been a jammy lucky count I have been told.

Oh it is so nice, my old english teacher would have kittens about me using that word, to hear about men who love their children.  But what about you others

do not go there

what I think about my crew and how strongly I feel and what I would do to ANYONE  with the wrong motives around them

lets forget it and just hope life will be good and clear for them

but there are an awful lot of chancers and nasty people out there!!!

stay good

the vast majority of people would be happier if they had no relations.

You are lovely, but I  asked this question because I know of so many men that father children and then never see them.  A friend of mine has four lovely grandchildren, but three of them have never met their father since about the age of three approx.  And that is not unusual, I also know of many men who have divorced or separated or do have not seen their children for decades and are totally not bothered about it.

Sorry that reply was to not allowed to bet.

I think I might possibly agree with you, lfc, I have never had children so don't know what I am missing, but looking at my brother's children I am not missing anything, although they are okay.  He has six.

annie you are joking!!!  This is not my world.  Yes there are some but it sounds like it is the majority.  If it is I fear for stability amongst - say  just PEOPLE  - if there is no bast - there is no stability (do you see) continuity, building blocks etc

have you read Engels on the family?

whoops  - there is no base !!!

If you have a large family, there is a very good chance that one of the children , or more, will
cause complete chaos and destruction and misery. That is the reality of families.

use such a negative lfc -  or is that personal experience - quite honestly - they are all at it  -  they just need whipping into line

gerargh!!!!!!!  tough guy stuff¬!!!!!!  OR NOT  !!!!

If they can't pay their way, throw them out, has been my motto!!!

All I know is that two of my friends are seriously minted, and wouldn't be where they are if they had children.

I have three, all adults and successful, but the cost of raising them is astronomical.

Obviously I wouldn't change anything but when they are young everything revolves around them.

Working full time and, other than that, giving every other minute to them, so you have no time to be you!

I resolved this by taking one day, every month, just to be me. Doing what I wanted to do and when.

Do you still have the dresses ?

I don't have kids Must admit never strong feelings to have them
  Those i do know who have them apart from one or two are slaves
to the kids the same way i am with mi cat.

Are children worth the money etc ...

well yes and no.

Mine YES, other peoples NO