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I'd have thought chit-chatters would be up in arms over this as surely the discovery channels are part of their everyday pleasures.
I'd have thought chit-chatters would be up in arms over this as surely the discovery channels are part of their everyday pleasures.
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Yep had Sky since 1989, that's it from me...Kodi here I come, Sky going to be in big big trouble in the next few years..
I've hardly ever watched Eurosports, but there's some good programmes on Discovery, Gold Rush and Alaskan Bush People probably being my favourites.
My Sky contract ran out sometime before the footy season started, and I was trying to negotiate a deal with them, and they weren't budging. I cancelled Sky Sports and Sky Movies, and waited for their phone call for a deal(which never came). On the first day of the football season I had to ring up and get both channels reinstalled at far more than I was paying. The Bast*rds!
My Sky contract ran out sometime before the footy season started, and I was trying to negotiate a deal with them, and they weren't budging. I cancelled Sky Sports and Sky Movies, and waited for their phone call for a deal(which never came). On the first day of the football season I had to ring up and get both channels reinstalled at far more than I was paying. The Bast*rds!
Jan 26, 2017 -- 9:02PM, s.kenbo wrote:
I've hardly ever watched Eurosports, but there's some good programmes on Discovery, Gold Rush and Alaskan Bush People probably being my favourites. My Sky contract ran out sometime before the footy season started, and I was trying to negotiate a deal with them, and they weren't budging. I cancelled Sky Sports and Sky Movies, and waited for their phone call for a deal(which never came). On the first day of the football season I had to ring up and get both channels reinstalled at far more than I was paying. The Bast*rds!
kodi...research and do it
I've got a kodi box. I wouldn't want to watch TV channels through it though.
Live football has been unwatchable whenever I've tried. And tbh I've not really tried watching 'normal' channels on there. I use it for films, and the odd boxset that isn't on Sky Boxsets.
Live football is generally rubbish through my Firestick with Kodi. However managed to watch all sessions of the Sky Sports Darts without issue so that was a massive bonus.
Where it comes into its own is films. Get to watch HD films almost straight after they are in the cinema and always way before they are out on dvd or Sky Box Office. Incredible value for films.
Have also had 5 or 6 boxing pay per view events for free worth £20 each and the stick only cost be £56.
Prior to that I was giving Sky £104 a month. Now I pay BT £38 a month for a recordable/pausable box and high speed broadband with BT sport and Eurosport - gets me Champions League footy and UFC. I miss Sky a bit but I certainly don't miss letting them mug me off by upping prices whilst reducing their service.
Where it comes into its own is films. Get to watch HD films almost straight after they are in the cinema and always way before they are out on dvd or Sky Box Office. Incredible value for films.
Have also had 5 or 6 boxing pay per view events for free worth £20 each and the stick only cost be £56.
Prior to that I was giving Sky £104 a month. Now I pay BT £38 a month for a recordable/pausable box and high speed broadband with BT sport and Eurosport - gets me Champions League footy and UFC. I miss Sky a bit but I certainly don't miss letting them mug me off by upping prices whilst reducing their service.
I thought ohhh no I watch a load of stuff on those channels.
Then looked through my planner and nothing on it from them or series linked. The documentary channels that I watch mostly is the history channel (not discovery history) and national geographic.
I think a lot of people will be in the same boat.
The quality of stuff from discovery does seem to have declined over the last 10 years
Then looked through my planner and nothing on it from them or series linked. The documentary channels that I watch mostly is the history channel (not discovery history) and national geographic.
I think a lot of people will be in the same boat.
The quality of stuff from discovery does seem to have declined over the last 10 years
Agreed. ^^
If you were to take out all of the duplicate channels, it would dramatically reduce the channels available to watch. Every major channel has a HD and a non HD, and on top of that there's loads off +1's, and I even spotted a +2 recently.
If you were to take out all of the duplicate channels, it would dramatically reduce the channels available to watch. Every major channel has a HD and a non HD, and on top of that there's loads off +1's, and I even spotted a +2 recently.
This is seriously bad news for me. Eurosport probably my fave and most watched channel. World Champs in Biathlon, Alpine and Nordic Skiing all coming up in the next month. So what are my options?
Personally, I wish there was a dedicated Sky Sports Premier League Channel with its own subscription and you could subscribe to everything but it.
Personally, I wish there was a dedicated Sky Sports Premier League Channel with its own subscription and you could subscribe to everything but it.
Eurosport have an online subscription thingy which is quite cheap and apparently good quality
Wonder if this applies to Virgin as well. It's not like these channels are ending (apparently) so they've got to be shown somewhere. Freeview for a while ? or maybe another subscription service like Amazon or Netflix will pick them up
Wonder if this applies to Virgin as well. It's not like these channels are ending (apparently) so they've got to be shown somewhere. Freeview for a while ? or maybe another subscription service like Amazon or Netflix will pick them up
Sky and I agreed to disagree on how much I was prepared to pay for their sport. I only have BT Sport which suits me as I have more opportunity to watch Champions League.
I pay Sky a tenner a month for the Sky + box which is worth it to me for convenience of recording and HD quality.
I pay Sky a tenner a month for the Sky + box which is worth it to me for convenience of recording and HD quality.
I extended my contract with Sky this week before I heard about Eurosport going - watch all my snooker on Eurosport cos its the only place to enjoy a Dennis Taylor-free championships. Looks like my 'deal' was £5 a month worse than it already was - might see how Kodi on the stick copes with it before committing
I cant believe eurosport is subscription ffs 
Im sure you used to get that channel free without any subs.
I just looked to see what channel the tennis is on when I saw that they were playing and it turns out its on eurosport.
I aint that bothered Im happy to miss it, especially is it means not paying to never watch 5hitty bicycling through mainland europe on a naff channel
Snooker, cripes, another non event. That was just a parlor game intended to make use of your hands while not sucking on a **** or tipping a pint down the neck.
To sit and watch others do it is as bad as watching people hit a tiny ball into a tiny hole at the end of the field in as few shots as poss.
They build these cr4p events up and divide the 'big ticket' ones between themselves and then dip their bread on all the subs people are forced to over pay on.
Welcome to the capitalist model of 5hit value.
Im sure you used to get that channel free without any subs.
I just looked to see what channel the tennis is on when I saw that they were playing and it turns out its on eurosport.
I aint that bothered Im happy to miss it, especially is it means not paying to never watch 5hitty bicycling through mainland europe on a naff channel
Snooker, cripes, another non event. That was just a parlor game intended to make use of your hands while not sucking on a **** or tipping a pint down the neck.
To sit and watch others do it is as bad as watching people hit a tiny ball into a tiny hole at the end of the field in as few shots as poss.
They build these cr4p events up and divide the 'big ticket' ones between themselves and then dip their bread on all the subs people are forced to over pay on.
Welcome to the capitalist model of 5hit value.
Just signed a new 12 month sub for lower monthly payments and now they put prices up and I lose 25%+ of the saving.
I am going to cancel on feb 1, more on principle that sky wont pay discovery the proper rate.
I wont miss sky at all, back to radio for me.
I wont miss sky at all, back to radio for me.
5 years ago I used to have Sky sports. Have moved twice since then and just haven't got round to getting it again. I rarely miss it and I'm about £3000 better off.
Is this definitely confirmed now that it will happen ?
Sky never owned Discovery, or Eurosports, or any other channel that doesn't have the word "Sky" in front of it.
Sky just hijacked them all and started charging us to watch them, when everyone else all over Europe was getting them for nothing on loads of satellites. Ithas long been a disgrace that they have the monopoly and can get away with nearly everything they do.
Sky makes loads of free money from its subscribers. Most comes from advertising, for which they need lots of viewers so they'll usually give loads of discount if you threaten to leave.
In November we cancelled citing the expense and inability to afford about £800 a year for some extra TV. They tried to talk us round (There's a department for that), with a tiny discount. 1 week goes by, then we get a call offering 40% off. We said, "No, we just can't afford it". another week and a couple of missed calls and I noticed an add coming on the TV in the break in the middle of the Simpsons, about how there's a 60% discount for anyone thinking of leaving..... I kept seeing the ad on every break of anything I watched on Sky.
I thought, "That's a weird advert, if they put this on all the time, everyone will leave and reinstate!!".
It turns out they can (and do) send ads specially tailored to YOUR box. So we did a little investigating online and it seems they have all sorts of offers on the go. We called them on the evening of the last day of the month we had to give them.... The result?
60% off and £50 back. so we reinstated movies and sport, which we'd cut off some months earlier. So now we have full package, with HD for £28 a month.
Apparently, if we'd waited til the next day they have a 75% + £100 back, but I'm happy enough.
As for eurosport, African cup of nations, skiing, snooker, Olympics (without the back story). A great channel at times.
Sky just hijacked them all and started charging us to watch them, when everyone else all over Europe was getting them for nothing on loads of satellites. Ithas long been a disgrace that they have the monopoly and can get away with nearly everything they do.
Sky makes loads of free money from its subscribers. Most comes from advertising, for which they need lots of viewers so they'll usually give loads of discount if you threaten to leave.
In November we cancelled citing the expense and inability to afford about £800 a year for some extra TV. They tried to talk us round (There's a department for that), with a tiny discount. 1 week goes by, then we get a call offering 40% off. We said, "No, we just can't afford it". another week and a couple of missed calls and I noticed an add coming on the TV in the break in the middle of the Simpsons, about how there's a 60% discount for anyone thinking of leaving..... I kept seeing the ad on every break of anything I watched on Sky.
I thought, "That's a weird advert, if they put this on all the time, everyone will leave and reinstate!!".
It turns out they can (and do) send ads specially tailored to YOUR box. So we did a little investigating online and it seems they have all sorts of offers on the go. We called them on the evening of the last day of the month we had to give them.... The result?
60% off and £50 back. so we reinstated movies and sport, which we'd cut off some months earlier. So now we have full package, with HD for £28 a month.
Apparently, if we'd waited til the next day they have a 75% + £100 back, but I'm happy enough.
As for eurosport, African cup of nations, skiing, snooker, Olympics (without the back story). A great channel at times.
Discovery want £1bn from sky to show its channels. (I think that's 10 years)
Most of the channels are in decline.
The company is worth $12bn.
So the Discovery network want Sky (1 broadcaster in the uk only, nor even exclusive) to pay 10% of the value of the whole company!
No wonder Sky told them to shove it.
Sky have also announced that they will re invest the money they would have paid into creating its own shows etc.
Most of the channels are in decline.
The company is worth $12bn.
So the Discovery network want Sky (1 broadcaster in the uk only, nor even exclusive) to pay 10% of the value of the whole company!
No wonder Sky told them to shove it.
Sky have also announced that they will re invest the money they would have paid into creating its own shows etc.
plus the discovery network gets the advertising revenue on its channels.
Crazy crazy that they even thought Sky would pay it. Apparently Sky did offer hundreds of millions too.
Crazy crazy that they even thought Sky would pay it. Apparently Sky did offer hundreds of millions too.
I'm currently watching Ice Cold Gold on DMAX and will be seriously piste off if that gets pulled on Feb 1st as is looking likely.
maleuk01.
That is what it says on Sky's website, typical Sky spin.
The thing is, all these channels were all free to air on loads of different satellites in lots of countries, for years, then Sky bought the UK rights and as I said 'Hi-jacked' the channels to enhance its own fairly limited portfolio. Not that Discovery isn't being greedy too, btw.
A bit like ATR. This was a free channel for ages, then you needed (still do) need to have a Sky subscription to watch it.
When it was all analogue, you could buy a decoder, or several. A dish, moveable if you wanted, and watch whatever is being beamed down. Sky made that very tricky by digitising then monopolising satellite viewing in the UK
All these greedy corporations are not just happy to make a fair profit, they have to make more than they did last year, every year and in the end service has to suffer.
That is what it says on Sky's website, typical Sky spin.
The thing is, all these channels were all free to air on loads of different satellites in lots of countries, for years, then Sky bought the UK rights and as I said 'Hi-jacked' the channels to enhance its own fairly limited portfolio. Not that Discovery isn't being greedy too, btw.
A bit like ATR. This was a free channel for ages, then you needed (still do) need to have a Sky subscription to watch it.
When it was all analogue, you could buy a decoder, or several. A dish, moveable if you wanted, and watch whatever is being beamed down. Sky made that very tricky by digitising then monopolising satellite viewing in the UK
All these greedy corporations are not just happy to make a fair profit, they have to make more than they did last year, every year and in the end service has to suffer.
kodi for movies,boxsets mobdro and uk tv now for live sports
All these greedy corporations are not just happy to make a fair profit, they have to make more than they did last year, every year and in the end service has to suffer.
Completely right. Because the shareholders, who demand an increased dividend year on year, for sitting on their fat arses, won't have it any other way.
Completely right. Because the shareholders, who demand an increased dividend year on year, for sitting on their fat arses, won't have it any other way.
maximising profit is the practice of minimising value using as much subterfuge as possible.
This is actually a requirement within capitalism as growth is needed to stand still.
This is actually a requirement within capitalism as growth is needed to stand still.
http://www.boredpanda.com/corporation-economies-explained-cows-ecownomics/
Jan 30, 2017 -- 5:17PM, wit-ham wrote:
http://www.boredpanda.com/corporation-economies-explained-cows-ecownomics/
Very Good
Same greedy shareholders dividends applies to our train networks too, which go up every year no matter what. Us British are the biggest mugs in the world, we just take this ****
We don't just take it, loui, but anyone opposing this way of operating things is decried as "leftie/luvvie" or "hand-wringer".
Many people were conned into voting for it, supporting it, believing it to be good for everyone (which it isn't) and still thinking it a good thing, but....
As has been coming since it started, we are as a nation - reaping the rewards of privatisation.
Some of us predicted it, others were persuaded with a £200 gift in Gas shares.
I'll be largely vilified on here for such an opinion, but look at just about every big company, every large private enterprise and you'll see; dodgy share options at inception, friends of, family of and actual MPs on boards,. In return for service cuts, constant staff cuts, profiteering, Tax Money hand outs, nice jobs for other buddies on toothless 'commissions' and 'watchdogs'. Not just trains, all utilities, big (often foreign) corporations, banks, Huge retail chains.
And then the feckers don't pay their tax!
Many people were conned into voting for it, supporting it, believing it to be good for everyone (which it isn't) and still thinking it a good thing, but....
As has been coming since it started, we are as a nation - reaping the rewards of privatisation.
Some of us predicted it, others were persuaded with a £200 gift in Gas shares.
I'll be largely vilified on here for such an opinion, but look at just about every big company, every large private enterprise and you'll see; dodgy share options at inception, friends of, family of and actual MPs on boards,. In return for service cuts, constant staff cuts, profiteering, Tax Money hand outs, nice jobs for other buddies on toothless 'commissions' and 'watchdogs'. Not just trains, all utilities, big (often foreign) corporations, banks, Huge retail chains.
And then the feckers don't pay their tax!
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http://sse.com/newsandviews/allarticles/2015/12/paying-our-fair-share-of-tax/
http://sse.com/newsandviews/allarticles/2015/12/paying-our-fair-share-of-tax/
Under thatcher it was known as 'getting rich quick' or 'pulling the ladder up'.
Its the manifestation of the corporation being the collection of opportunistic individuals all feeding from the trough of other people's misfortune.
The race to the bottom.
It's funny as corporations are now classed as people in a legal stand point and are given rights as they were people.
Its as though the meaning of life was enterprise and everyone has to suckle on the tit of greed.
Its the manifestation of the corporation being the collection of opportunistic individuals all feeding from the trough of other people's misfortune.
The race to the bottom.
It's funny as corporations are now classed as people in a legal stand point and are given rights as they were people.
Its as though the meaning of life was enterprise and everyone has to suckle on the tit of greed.
All those of you with kodi boxes moaning about the live sport have obviously never heard of sportsmania. An absolutely brilliant service for a good price. You get sky sports, bt sports, fox sports, Racing UK, pretty much every sport channel you could think of plus on demand sections where you can catch up on anything you've missed. The quality of live sport channels in superb. I cant tell the difference between their RUK stream and a broadcast one.
Unfortunately, it got so popular due to being so excellent, that they have stopped new subs, but there is a sister service called Ultimate mania. It's slightly more expensive but as well as sports, it has most of the sky entertainment channels too. A sub to ultimate mania along with exodus and UK Turk add ons will mean never having to turn to sky again. There is a facebook group to help you with any problems and the admins there are very good indeed. They also supply a build which tailors Kodi to the service.
Try it for a week to see how you get on.
http://www.ultimatemania.rocks/
P.S, I have nothing to do with this company, I am just a very happy subscriber.
Unfortunately, it got so popular due to being so excellent, that they have stopped new subs, but there is a sister service called Ultimate mania. It's slightly more expensive but as well as sports, it has most of the sky entertainment channels too. A sub to ultimate mania along with exodus and UK Turk add ons will mean never having to turn to sky again. There is a facebook group to help you with any problems and the admins there are very good indeed. They also supply a build which tailors Kodi to the service.
Try it for a week to see how you get on.
http://www.ultimatemania.rocks/
P.S, I have nothing to do with this company, I am just a very happy subscriber.
A weeks sub to entertainment and sports is £6. Obviously gets cheaper the longer you subscribe for.
forgive my ignorance here but paying for kodi packages supports who exactly?
Supports the team who run it, maintain it, constantly add new content, sort out problems, help customers and spend thousands on servers each year all around the world to host the service without fear of it getting shut down.
Wish they hadn't settled the dispute. Managed to watch Egypt v Burkina Faso last night. That's an hour and a half of my life I'll never see again. Bit like my cash on over 2.5......
treble
you mean they are running a business off ripping off a business?
you mean they are running a business off ripping off a business?
Yes, but why should it bother me that they rip off sky and BT, a pair of greedy b@stards who have spent the last 10 years or so ripping me off? Plus, how else would I get to watch every Arsenal game on telly?
Anyway, the profit isn't much, theres a shedload of costs running a service the size of Sportsmania.
Anyway, the profit isn't much, theres a shedload of costs running a service the size of Sportsmania.
I dont doubt it, and Im not preaching each to their own.
Ive watched the occasional feed on an ipad app and at times they are pretty ropey, but in many ways thats what you should expect. It should be pretty amateurish.
I dont know if professional poncing is the answer really, sure we can all determine value based on what we would pay for something, but equally we could all find a reason to pay nowt.
I found that now tv sports subs suits me cos I missed more sport than I paid for anyway and now I can tailor it to suit.
Ive watched the occasional feed on an ipad app and at times they are pretty ropey, but in many ways thats what you should expect. It should be pretty amateurish.
I dont know if professional poncing is the answer really, sure we can all determine value based on what we would pay for something, but equally we could all find a reason to pay nowt.
I found that now tv sports subs suits me cos I missed more sport than I paid for anyway and now I can tailor it to suit.
For kenbo et al
Get an open box off ebay, zgemma.
£100 for 1 year, all channels, sports, movies ppv etc
Works through sat dish so picture same as sky, none of that streaming kodi stuff.
Get an open box off ebay, zgemma.
£100 for 1 year, all channels, sports, movies ppv etc
Works through sat dish so picture same as sky, none of that streaming kodi stuff.
nah never did james
while all around me were goin asunder I did without
while all around me were goin asunder I did without
I think a few of you on here need to get some self-respect. So what if Sky is expensive? All the best things are more often than not.
If you want quality pay the money, it's as simple as that instead of embarrassing yourselves pi$$ing about with Heath Robinson contraptions which might give a good signal if you point the coat hanger aerial in the right direction.
Desperate scenes.
If you want quality pay the money, it's as simple as that instead of embarrassing yourselves pi$$ing about with Heath Robinson contraptions which might give a good signal if you point the coat hanger aerial in the right direction.
Desperate scenes.
Cheers Jamesdean. 
If you paid £100 a year, instead of per month, you'd have a fair bit more to waste on sh1tty African football, Johnny!!
If you paid £100 a year, instead of per month, you'd have a fair bit more to waste on sh1tty African football, Johnny!!
I'll be in again tonight Skenbo, overs tickets in hand, watching the, ahem, 'big one', Ghana v Cameroon. Does Roger Millar still play for them I wonder? He was at least 56 last tournament, so why not this one.
Overs have been a pretty decent price this tournament (so I'm led to believe!!)
If an African footballer says he was 56, you can bet your life he's at least 61! He was the only Cameroon footballer people could name for years.
If an African footballer says he was 56, you can bet your life he's at least 61! He was the only Cameroon footballer people could name for years.
Ill have you know nobody sees the colour of james' money
Its a closely guarded secret
Its a closely guarded secret
They've been a decent price because hardly any have landed! With the exception of Eto'o, I still can't name any other Cameroon player other than Millar.
I can name Song, but I'm not committing myself to a first name.
Good shout, and there were two of them. I should know because one played for Arsenal and his uncle (?) was called Rigobert.
I think they've struck a deal now?
Eurosport is only of value to be for the Tennis but they only show the slams, two of which are covered by ITV and BBC, so they only have the Aussie slam and US Open. They don't really have much else unless you're into your Cycling.
Eurosport is only of value to be for the Tennis but they only show the slams, two of which are covered by ITV and BBC, so they only have the Aussie slam and US Open. They don't really have much else unless you're into your Cycling.
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